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i am someone who is trying to dissociate from this group, and focus on

my life as much needs to be done. and with God's grace very soon i

will.i would like to know why other members accept to abide by the

whims of an irresponsible and irrational man. i am 100% sure he does

not even read messages before giving them

ok. if you cannot handle something do not take the resposiblity,

otherwise try to change yourself. there is always time when we really

want to do something.

 

i really have a good mind to send a post which is detrimental to

Gurudham just to prove that this guy does not do his job, as i am sure

he will Ok it without reading it.

 

if i had my way, i would have all active members boycott this group

and form another one which was unmoderated. but of corse nobody will

agree, and so i do not propose it. whether or not he likes it, his

behaviour reflects negatively upon the way the GURUDHam functions.

 

why does some true devotee, or GURubhai not speak to someone who

yields power at GURUDham to clarify this issue? and ask for guidance..

if that is their way of fuctioning.

 

anyway nothing else to say

 

my very best wishes to all my brothers

anu

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JAI GURUDEV

Dear Anu,

> i would like to know why other members accept to abide by the

> whims of an irresponsible and irrational man.

 

You are right. I am Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali's disciple; not of this

moderator fellow.

> i am 100% sure he does not even read messages before giving

> them ok.

 

Yeah. I agree.

> if i had my way, i would have all active members boycott this

> group and form another one which was unmoderated. but of corse

> nobody will agree, and so i do not propose it.

 

I was about to do just that. Fortunately, this group is now

unmoderated. If moderation starts again, I would be the first to

leave.

 

Thanks and have a nice day.

 

Ashish Marathe

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, "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote:

> JAI GURUDEV

>

jai gurudev

nahin, ashish, acchi baat nahin hai.

instead of correcting him only, i insulted him as well.

 

he is someone busy with guruseva- perhaps, who knows what were his

reasons. moderator bhaita, i am sorry. aap bura mat manna.

 

but i still hate moderation.

good wishes

anu

 

ashish you once wrote some articles for new people here. post them on

sadhak too. and yes, sadhak is la lot more usable

anu

 

Dear Anu,

>

> > i would like to know why other members accept to abide by the

> > whims of an irresponsible and irrational man.

>

> You are right. I am Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali's disciple; not of

this

> moderator fellow.

>

> > i am 100% sure he does not even read messages before giving

> > them ok.

>

> Yeah. I agree.

>

> > if i had my way, i would have all active members boycott this

> > group and form another one which was unmoderated. but of corse

> > nobody will agree, and so i do not propose it.

>

> I was about to do just that. Fortunately, this group is now

> unmoderated. If moderation starts again, I would be the first to

> leave.

>

> Thanks and have a nice day.

>

> Ashish Marathe

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JAI GURUDEV

Dear Anu,

> ashish you once wrote some articles for new people here. post

> them on sadhak too.

 

Which one? Please, help me remember.

> and yes, sadhak is la lot more usable

 

Thanks. Actually, your activeness inspired the new additions.

 

Ah! I really love freedom. See, how nice it feels when messages flow

freely.

 

Ashish...

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---

i love the freedom too.

the ones in which you mentioned something about doing pranayyam tratak

guru mantra anusthaans etc.

only please remove suggestions like 11 lakh jap. bichare log bahut

paresjhan aate hain it is not mice to set impossible goals for them

wishes

 

anu

 

also since you are computer guy, help me with aproblem. a few days

ago, i got a mail with a virus. the net result is that i am unable to

download any files from the net or view attachments. wwghat can i do

to mend that??

 

 

In , "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote:

> JAI GURUDEV

> Dear Anu,

>

> > ashish you once wrote some articles for new people here. post

> > them on sadhak too.

>

> Which one? Please, help me remember.

>

> > and yes, sadhak is la lot more usable

>

> Thanks. Actually, your activeness inspired the new additions.

>

> Ah! I really love freedom. See, how nice it feels when messages flow

> freely.

>

> Ashish...

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Dear Anu,

> the ones in which you mentioned something about doing pranayyam

> tratak guru mantra anusthaans etc. only please remove suggestions

> like 11 lakh jap.

 

Got it. It would be done.

> bichare log bahut paresjhan aate hain it is not mice to set

> impossible goals for them

 

Yeah! You are right.

> also since you are computer guy, help me with aproblem. a few days

> ago, i got a mail with a virus. the net result is that i am unable

> to download any files from the net or view attachments. wwghat can

> i do to mend that??

 

Using a good anti-virus app with latest updates would be your best

bet. You may also reinstall your OS and other apps, if possible.

These days, worms and viruses are very common. Never open any email

attachment if you are not expecting one. This also applies to emails

from known persons because if there system is infected, the worm may

send you itself without that persons knowledge. Once I received an

attachment from an old business associate and yes, you got it right,

I had to reinstall everything.

 

Ashish...

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--hanks. Actually, your activeness inspired the new additions.

 

my activeness was partly inspired by self importance, and partly by

irritation to moderation.

where are charanjit and shri arvind ji. i have to tell him that in his

absence this group became a

better place, nobody was rude to nobody ( except me to the moderator).

nobody disagreed with

everybody else.

 

anyway, what i wish to say is this. i am 100% sure that there are many

good people out here as

silly/smart as we are. i invite everybody to write for sadhak. please

feel free to write on any topic

you wish to. and approval is merely a formality. someone will

definitely approve what you write.

there are so many pearls of wisdom here.

 

brother soul stealer, please do write again. my reaction directed

towards myself, and i still try to

implement it all. i must say i am not proud of myself.

 

there are 2 new philosophic vijays. there is the eternal philosopher

birendraji.and there is anurag,

mohan rathoreji, bishnuji, and enigmatic amit. and there are quite a

few who write once in a while.

why do we not do one thing. in order to keep --Sadhak --alive, let us

make a system of rotation. there

should be a new article every weekend on sadhak. ashish started now

write about guruji, sadhnas your views, contradictions, doubts,

questions, guesses, information you

found on the web--just quote source, etc.

 

1 ashish

2 amit --amit post your views about india and nepal there, i will OK

it.

3 anurag

4 vijay aumnamah shivay

5 vijay +/- neutral

6 soul stealer

7 birendraji

8 charanjit if alive

9 arvind sharma even if not alive

10 bishnuji

11 mohanji

12 manjula saxena

13 orgendra donore

14 kashyap-excused if he wantes to study.

etc etc

that way everyone writes an article maybe once in 2 or three months,

and this goes by rotation.

 

do you people like the idea?

of course this list is subject to an ok from the authors concerned.

where is my name? i will just

take care of one article-good days for sadhna, and rewrite y

everymonth and put in 2 or 3 lines

about every sadhna day+ it's significance

 

please let us know what do you people think, please do confirm or

reject additions. and in case i am not round for the next 2 or 3 days

ashish will take not let the articles

come out latest monday evening so that it becomes a routine to find

them there.

 

there is only one request, if you give an

ok please keep dothe promise

looking forward tomactive participation from all

 

jai gurudev

anu

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i will try to post the article. My main interests have been in Kundalini and

will be posting

much on that. Anu its a good idea.

 

 

 

 

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jai gurudev

sorry i have a funny computer, it can also be the case of nach na jane

aangan tera.=the curser sometimes changes place untentionally and i

keep typing.

what i meant to say was this:

>

> please let us know what do you people think, please do confirm or

> reject your names. new names are more than welcome.. and in case i

am not around for the next 2 or 3 days > ashish will take note of

confirmations.we can have new articles latest monday evening so that

it becomes a routine to find > them there.

>

> there is only one request, if you give an

> ok please keep do keep the promise

 

> looking forward to active participation from all

 

 

thank you anurag. for those who do not know anurag has his kundalini

jagrit, so you can talk about it to him

>

> jai gurudev

> anu

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Dear Anu,

 

This is an excellent idea. Hope it will make authors write, or at

least, log into their account :)

 

Thanks.

 

Ashish...

 

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote:

> --hanks. Actually, your activeness inspired the new additions.

>

> my activeness was partly inspired by self importance, and partly by

> irritation to moderation.

> where are charanjit and shri arvind ji. i have to tell him that in

his

> absence this group became a

> better place, nobody was rude to nobody ( except me to the

moderator).

> nobody disagreed with

> everybody else.

>

> anyway, what i wish to say is this. i am 100% sure that there are

many

> good people out here as

> silly/smart as we are. i invite everybody to write for sadhak.

please

> feel free to write on any topic

> you wish to. and approval is merely a formality. someone will

> definitely approve what you write.

> there are so many pearls of wisdom here.

>

> brother soul stealer, please do write again. my reaction directed

> towards myself, and i still try to

> implement it all. i must say i am not proud of myself.

>

> there are 2 new philosophic vijays. there is the eternal

philosopher

> birendraji.and there is anurag,

> mohan rathoreji, bishnuji, and enigmatic amit. and there are quite

a

> few who write once in a while.

> why do we not do one thing. in order to keep --Sadhak --alive, let

us

> make a system of rotation. there

> should be a new article every weekend on sadhak. ashish started now

> write about guruji, sadhnas your views, contradictions, doubts,

> questions, guesses, information you

> found on the web--just quote source, etc.

>

> 1 ashish

> 2 amit --amit post your views about india and nepal there, i will

OK

> it.

> 3 anurag

> 4 vijay aumnamah shivay

> 5 vijay +/- neutral

> 6 soul stealer

> 7 birendraji

> 8 charanjit if alive

> 9 arvind sharma even if not alive

> 10 bishnuji

> 11 mohanji

> 12 manjula saxena

> 13 orgendra donore

> 14 kashyap-excused if he wantes to study.

> etc etc

> that way everyone writes an article maybe once in 2 or three

months,

> and this goes by rotation.

>

> do you people like the idea?

> of course this list is subject to an ok from the authors concerned.

> where is my name? i will just

> take care of one article-good days for sadhna, and rewrite y

> everymonth and put in 2 or 3 lines

> about every sadhna day+ it's significance

>

> please let us know what do you people think, please do confirm or

> reject additions. and in case i am not round for the next 2 or 3

days

> ashish will take not let the articles

> come out latest monday evening so that it becomes a routine to

find

> them there.

>

> there is only one request, if you give an

> ok please keep dothe promise

> looking forward tomactive participation from all

>

> jai gurudev

> anu

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Jai Gurudev,

dear anu,

 

 

Happy to learn that this list is unmoderated...

 

 

Nice to see u active, wish that u always reamain acitve and happy

althru...

 

you have taken a constructive iniative to keep the members

participating by the way of contribution ....

 

i would like to add the following names also

 

chander

sailesh

gopalan shankaranji

dinesh sharma

anupam shil

amitesh

 

pls forgive me if i have missed some names its unintentional,

besides other members also should venture out and propose something

for the group

 

i dont know if they will be willing , but they should act in a good

spirit if they have the resources to do so at their disposal

 

 

other members should volunteer out and let anu or ashish know abt this

 

 

affectionately

Jai Gurudev

 

 

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote:

> --hanks. Actually, your activeness inspired the new additions.

>

> my activeness was partly inspired by self importance, and partly by

> irritation to moderation.

> where are charanjit and shri arvind ji. i have to tell him that in

his

> absence this group became a

> better place, nobody was rude to nobody ( except me to the

moderator).

> nobody disagreed with

> everybody else.

>

> anyway, what i wish to say is this. i am 100% sure that there are

many

> good people out here as

> silly/smart as we are. i invite everybody to write for sadhak.

please

> feel free to write on any topic

> you wish to. and approval is merely a formality. someone will

> definitely approve what you write.

> there are so many pearls of wisdom here.

>

> brother soul stealer, please do write again. my reaction directed

> towards myself, and i still try to

> implement it all. i must say i am not proud of myself.

>

> there are 2 new philosophic vijays. there is the eternal

philosopher

> birendraji.and there is anurag,

> mohan rathoreji, bishnuji, and enigmatic amit. and there are quite

a

> few who write once in a while.

> why do we not do one thing. in order to keep --Sadhak --alive, let

us

> make a system of rotation. there

> should be a new article every weekend on sadhak. ashish started now

> write about guruji, sadhnas your views, contradictions, doubts,

> questions, guesses, information you

> found on the web--just quote source, etc.

>

> 1 ashish

> 2 amit --amit post your views about india and nepal there, i will

OK

> it.

> 3 anurag

> 4 vijay aumnamah shivay

> 5 vijay +/- neutral

> 6 soul stealer

> 7 birendraji

> 8 charanjit if alive

> 9 arvind sharma even if not alive

> 10 bishnuji

> 11 mohanji

> 12 manjula saxena

> 13 orgendra donore

> 14 kashyap-excused if he wantes to study.

> etc etc

> that way everyone writes an article maybe once in 2 or three

months,

> and this goes by rotation.

>

> do you people like the idea?

> of course this list is subject to an ok from the authors concerned.

> where is my name? i will just

> take care of one article-good days for sadhna, and rewrite y

> everymonth and put in 2 or 3 lines

> about every sadhna day+ it's significance

>

> please let us know what do you people think, please do confirm or

> reject additions. and in case i am not round for the next 2 or 3

days

> ashish will take not let the articles

> come out latest monday evening so that it becomes a routine to

find

> them there.

>

> there is only one request, if you give an

> ok please keep dothe promise

> looking forward tomactive participation from all

>

> jai gurudev

> anu

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Namaste!

 

A splendid idea! How big should each article be?

 

Also I want to suggest that the articles be of a

personal and practical nature- something that would be

useful in daily life rather than on abstract

philosphy(most articles on this site are very

practical).

 

Aum Namasivaya,

Vijay

 

 

 

 

 

--- devi_bhagat <devi_bhagat wrote:

> --hanks. Actually, your activeness inspired the new

> additions.

>

> my activeness was partly inspired by self

> importance, and partly by

> irritation to moderation.

> where are charanjit and shri arvind ji. i have to

> tell him that in his

> absence this group became a

> better place, nobody was rude to nobody ( except me

> to the moderator).

> nobody disagreed with

> everybody else.

>

> anyway, what i wish to say is this. i am 100% sure

> that there are many

> good people out here as

> silly/smart as we are. i invite everybody to write

> for sadhak. please

> feel free to write on any topic

> you wish to. and approval is merely a formality.

> someone will

> definitely approve what you write.

> there are so many pearls of wisdom here.

>

> brother soul stealer, please do write again. my

> reaction directed

> towards myself, and i still try to

> implement it all. i must say i am not proud of

> myself.

>

> there are 2 new philosophic vijays. there is the

> eternal philosopher

> birendraji.and there is anurag,

> mohan rathoreji, bishnuji, and enigmatic amit. and

> there are quite a

> few who write once in a while.

> why do we not do one thing. in order to keep

> --Sadhak --alive, let us

> make a system of rotation. there

> should be a new article every weekend on sadhak.

> ashish started now

> write about guruji, sadhnas your views,

> contradictions, doubts,

> questions, guesses, information you

> found on the web--just quote source, etc.

>

> 1 ashish

> 2 amit --amit post your views about india and nepal

> there, i will OK

> it.

> 3 anurag

> 4 vijay aumnamah shivay

> 5 vijay +/- neutral

> 6 soul stealer

> 7 birendraji

> 8 charanjit if alive

> 9 arvind sharma even if not alive

> 10 bishnuji

> 11 mohanji

> 12 manjula saxena

> 13 orgendra donore

> 14 kashyap-excused if he wantes to study.

> etc etc

> that way everyone writes an article maybe once in 2

> or three months,

> and this goes by rotation.

>

> do you people like the idea?

> of course this list is subject to an ok from the

> authors concerned.

> where is my name? i will just

> take care of one article-good days for sadhna, and

> rewrite y

> everymonth and put in 2 or 3 lines

> about every sadhna day+ it's significance

>

> please let us know what do you people think, please

> do confirm or

> reject additions. and in case i am not round for the

> next 2 or 3 days

> ashish will take not let the articles

> come out latest monday evening so that it becomes a

> routine to find

> them there.

>

> there is only one request, if you give an

> ok please keep dothe promise

> looking forward tomactive participation from all

>

> jai gurudev

> anu

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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> Nice to see u active, wish that u always reamain acitve and happy

> althru...

> i am neither happy. nor do i wish to be active. this is an escape

and i aste time. i wrote a longer mail in defence of aum but it got

lost, not in a mood to type again

 

anyway

anurag

you

ashish

vijya have confirmed.

 

anymore names are more than welcome.

i suggest that even if there are 6 people saying Ok we go ahead with

the idea.

but only one request

 

please do not be like the moderator. if you take initiative, make time

for it

 

good wishes

anu

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JAI GURUDEV

Dear Vijay...

> How big should each article be?

 

There is no limitation on size of an article. Still, if you feel it's

big, split it.

> most articles on this site are very practical.

 

Which site? Sadhak or this group (ISSPLIST)?

 

Have a nice day.

 

Ashish...

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jai Gurudev,

 

dear anu,

pls do not be negative in approach, pls try to give postive

suggestions, we are limited beings with limited self control

and so... only few are really great, dont think of them and degrade

ur self. think of lower people and upgrade ur self positively.

 

and one more suggestion is dont try to take big big steps which is a

result of having bigger goal , you can always have grand vision, but

steps should be small,just take small tiny steps one at a

time, celebrate progress of each tiny step by giving ur self a

positive suggestion, eact tiny step should lead to a slightly more

less tiny step, make this a habit generally its prudent to be

incremental and then just a mega leap,easy to tell...

 

due to shortage of time i am not able to explain u properly...

its good to see lot more people chipping in...

 

i remember few more names who can contribute

 

pradip merchant

sundara vinayagara

and one jouralist from amhedabad idont knwo his name

and rohit

 

 

when once the names are finalised then probably make a time table

with the consent of all let them know their posting slots in

advance so that they would prepare for it, if they cant post they

would tell in advance so that the next guy can post if he is willing

to or leave it open so that anyone interested can post

 

 

reagarding ur virus problem if it solves its ok, otherwise i will try

find from my network admin and post u later(say 1-2days).

network guy is a busy man ...

 

affectionately

Jai Gurudev

 

 

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote:

> --

> > Nice to see u active, wish that u always reamain acitve and

happy

> > althru...

> > i am neither happy. nor do i wish to be active. this is an escape

> and i aste time. i wrote a longer mail in defence of aum but it got

> lost, not in a mood to type again

>

> anyway

> anurag

> you

> ashish

> vijya have confirmed.

>

> anymore names are more than welcome.

> i suggest that even if there are 6 people saying Ok we go ahead

with

> the idea.

> but only one request

>

> please do not be like the moderator. if you take initiative, make

time

> for it

>

> good wishes

> anu

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Namaste!

 

I was referring to this egroup list. I have never been

on sadhak so far the reason being that I get the

message cannot find server- is this hosted on

someone's personal computer?

 

I just got the same message again right now. Is this a

problem that just I am facing?

 

Aum Namasivaya,

Vijay

--- nikhilashish <nikhilashish wrote:

> JAI GURUDEV

> Dear Vijay...

>

> > How big should each article be?

>

> There is no limitation on size of an article. Still,

> if you feel it's

> big, split it.

>

> > most articles on this site are very practical.

>

> Which site? Sadhak or this group (ISSPLIST)?

>

> Have a nice day.

>

> Ashish...

>

>

 

 

 

 

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JAI GURUDEV

Dear Vijay,

> is this hosted on someone's personal computer?

 

Any website can't be hosted on anyone's personal computer and Sadhak

is no exception. It's up and running great! Sadhak's web address is

 

http://www20.brinkster.com/sadhak

 

Make sure you are typing it correctly and completely.

> I just got the same message again right now. Is this a

> problem that just I am facing?

 

Yeah! I feel so.

 

Ashish...

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--- I

> and one more suggestion is dont try to take big big steps which is a

> result of having bigger goal , you can always have grand vision, but

> steps should be small,just take small tiny steps one at a

> time, celebrate progress of each tiny step by giving ur self a

> positive suggestion, eact tiny step should lead to a slightly more

> less tiny step, make this a habit generally its prudent to be

> incremental and then just a mega leap,easy to tell...

> nt kat anyone interested can post

>

 

yes, i know what you are saying, but still feel surprised why are

you saying it? these days it seems God is specially concerned for me,

i hear him everywhere. i have also been thinking in the ame direction.

that is the basic cause of failure:

taking up things which you cannot handle. if you hear even stories,

there is the same lesson parvati ji started her tapasya eating fruits

only, then she lived on leaves, then she gave it up and lived on

water, and then nothing. the underlying idea is to move in steps. and

one has to measure one's capacity.

 

the other is of course, scattering energy. if 5 things need to be done

then one has to prioritze and do them one by one. else distribute time

between them in order of priority ie if none can be left.

 

anyway my wishes to you, ,and all others.

anu

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