Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Jai Gurudev, dear anu, > > also since you are computer guy, help me with aproblem. a few days > ago, i got a mail with a virus. the net result is that i am unable to > download any files from the net or view attachments. wwghat can i do > to mend that?? > I chatted with my network admin he tells that if i can give hime the file name he told that he would be letting me know what the fix is. basically the fix depends on type of virus which has a charectrestic file name, 2) he told a general rule that when you are opening an attatchment sent as email ,instead of opening it right away by double clicking he told that you should down load the file save it and then try to open it from the required program, and if the downlaoded file happens to be a exe told one should not take the risk of opening it. say u get a file called foo.xls as an attatchment and it could basically be a foo.xls.vba where vba part is made not visible, so you think it is an excel(.xls) file and open it by double clicking bascially you are opening a vba program becos windows links the files to the programs that run it when you double click. SO DOUBLE CLICKING is dangerous so continuing again... i have downlaoded the foo.xls file ,i dont double click but i go to the EXCEL PROGRAM (which opens .xls files) and try to open the file from the program ,it would not open because its a foo.xls.vba file , then it would right away inidicate that some thing is fishy , and then you take the file name and go to the NORTON /symantec website and post the full file name over there and search for the fix they would let u know what the virus and its fix and all that process.... 3)or you can go to norton website www.norton.com you have a feature called internet security check which tries to check your computer thru u internet connection and report a solution after it has scanned, i dont know much info abt this, but this is another option, but for that you should have IE 4.01 and active X enabled... if u can send the file name to me its ok ,as my admin offered me that he would help me(instead of i asking him... ) with this when i told ur problem, the fix would clean the virus and reboot the system for you that is what he told so kind of cool... hope this solves ur problem and other members also get the idea of how to open attatchment and avoid attacks, i never bothered to know all this stuff but i know now affectionately Jai Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 dear birendraji though i and amit have agreed to vanish, i wish to thank you and him too for efforts. i first downloaded and reinstalled norton anti virus but it went hayware. i then tried 30 day free trial of PCcillin. it to said that there are no viruses. but then this is a better software and when i scanned my PC after installing it gave me the name: WORM_GONER.A. but the problem was it could do nothing to it, clean rename, delete or quarantine. i then searched for the virus on the net and found a fix on www.antivirus.com, followed instructions. so today i reinstalled and uninstalled my antivirus software many times trying various things. but for some reason i still got a message that the virus was there ---now i understand that it was in the restore folder (for ME)which cannot be cleaned until you disable to. this was an instruction at www.symantec.com where i downloaded another fix again. it said it found nothing. BUt thisytime after enabling my system restore, and reistalling the PCcillin software, it still has not found anything.. so maidan maar liya. good, i learned new things, now i will look into the damage, and see what can be undone. OK, then i vanish again wishes... anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Jai Gurudev, dear anu, you people appear/manifest(i dont remember exact opposite of vanish) and vanish like moon... i dont know if vanishing sovles the problem, but any ways keep looking at the queries posted and try to see that people are getting some useful info.. see that tempo of this and sadhak site is mainted as much as is possible to you. you people have to also understand the satsanga part, amit was tellling abt giving adivse on particular sadhana...(like chanting OM) i hope no one is so advanced... and the discussions should be in such a way that it keeps you motivated, and keeps u doing sadhanas... i think poeple can do sadhanas and satsanga also... basically for sadhahas its always advisable to have a Gurudev guidance... i really cant understand how you people can do sadhana without Gurudevs help/guidance... pls do not loose satsanga from ur focus... i basically belive is that we should all try to look towards our sadGuru if we have one and if we dont have,its time to find one... that only solves the problem, without a satGuru i dont think you can have a good success rate in sadhanas... with a satGuru without doing sadhanas also you can get all that you want if he is pleased... remember i was telling u abt taking little steps in earlier mail, i have to add that steps should be valid ones too...pls dont leap. my mail may be incoherent,pls dont feel hurt try to see the point. i dont know if amit might also have lost focus abt the satsanga thing... i only can suggest... coming to your virus.... basically showed ur email to my admin he just pointed out me to this link http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.goner.a (AT) mm (DOT) removal.tool ..html he told that antivirus just detects the virus and some times may fix it but not always the case... so removal tool removes the virus and its related only to specific virus so each virus has its own removal tools. so basically i assume urs is windows ME 1) you have to disable system restore 2)install and run the removal tool(fix goner exe) at the end tool should give you the following at the end.. The total number of the scanned files. The number of deleted files. The number of viral processes terminated. The number of registry values deleted. (i dont know if you observed this ? this should actually tell whether the removal tool has done to the virus) 3)and then you restart the computer 4)run removal tool to ensure 5)enable system restore 6)run antivirus software. if the virus has affected ur already installed virus then 6)you must uninstall and then reinstall Norton AntiVirus before you can start Norton AntiVirus or run LiveUpdate. > when i scanned my PC after installing it gave me the name: > WORM_GONER.A. but the problem was it could do nothing to it, clean > rename, delete or quarantine. i then searched for the virus on the > net and found a fix on www.antivirus.com, followed instructions. so > today i reinstalled and uninstalled my antivirus software many times > trying various things. but for some reason i still got a message that > the virus was there ---now i understand that it was in the restore > folder (for ME)which cannot be cleaned until you disable to. this was > an instruction at www.symantec.com where i downloaded another fix > again. it said it found nothing. BUt thisytime after enabling my > system restore, and reistalling the PCcillin software, it still has > not found anything.. so maidan maar liya. > > good, i learned new things, now i will look into the damage, and see > what can be undone. OK, > then i vanish again pls keep updated abt this status;hope things resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 sorry the link did not fit the whole line... www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.goner.a@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 sorry again i thought that would fit the line... http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/ data/w32.goner.a copy and paste twolines seperately... , "birendra_m" <birendra_m> wrote: > sorry the link did not fit the whole line... > > www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.goner.a@m... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 > so removal tool removes the virus and its related only to specific > virus so each virus has its own removal tools. > yes, but since i knew the name of the virus all i needed to do was find a fix to it. antivirus and semantic are two separate sites providing fixes. for gen knwledge this is what it looks like in mail...WORM_GONER.A Hi Message Body: How are you ? When I saw this screensaver, I immediately thought about you I am in a harry, I promise you will love it! Attachment: GONE.SCR > so basically i assume urs is windows ME > 1) you have to disable system restore > > 6 > 6)you must uninstall and then reinstall Norton AntiVirus before you > can start Norton AntiVirus or run LiveUpdate. > are bhaiya, bola na virus hata chuki hoon.... . yeh sab kar liya tabhi to hata. but maybe this is useful for others. reagrding the satsang part, i am so impressed that you are convinced that talking to you is keeping satsang. cannot say this with confidence for myself. so do not worry. as long as i am aliv ei will keep coming back... and please do not mind the joke. i remember the mail amit referred to, it was about vivekananda's saying go home and practice do not be a talking machine.... good wishes anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 , "birendra_m" <birendra_m> wrote: > sorry again i thought that would fit the line... > > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/ > data/w32.goner.a@m... > > jaiGURUDEV yes, thank you very much. here you can search for the virus by name and find a fix http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/ http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/vinfodb.html may GURUJI bless yor trying to help me good wishes... anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Jai Gurudev dear anu, > > are bhaiya, bola na virus hata chuki hoon.... . yeh sab kar liya tabhi > to hata. but maybe this is useful for others. nice to learn that. > reagrding the satsang part, i am so impressed that you are convinced > that talking to you is keeping satsang. cannot say this with > confidence for myself. so do not worry. as long as i am aliv ei will > keep coming back... > and please do not mind the joke. > > i remember the mail amit referred to, it was about vivekananda's > saying go home and practice do not be a talking machine.... > good wishes i did not fully understand what you wrote and what you meant, but anyways you are dear to me so i wont mind whatever it is. and one more thing that i wanted tell is you have good knowledge of scriptures,poems... and i dont thing except for vijay and some other anyone has such info... i dont have event 5 % of the scriptural and other knowledge you possess, so discussion may not help you as u know a lot but it would help people like me or the other members ,who are ignorant abt the scriptures and poems its not how much you give that matters but with what intention you give thats the key(similar to faith). i really didnt knew the asthavakra things and parvitiJI story... any ways i hope you can get the point.. when you are talking abt scriptures i think its not to be called as talking machines... but sure when you talk of sadhanas that you dont have knowledge or experinece and in that case what you told /amit told pracitice before you preach concept is applicable and that is the reason that most of my articles are just pointers to articles by sages... so when iam posting i am not preaching it is he who is preaching... and one more thing is that all sadhanas need not involve Mantras and Malas ,Sadhana is more generalized thing..(i ll post some time abt article on sadhann written by Bade Gurudev) so the problems may have solutions which may not involve mantras also i really want you to see the point and make the distinciton. well i am not satisfied with the way that i wrote , iam not in a mood to write, iam tired... love Jai Gurdev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 jaiGURUDEV > yes, thank you very much. > here you can search for the virus by name and find a fix > http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/ > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/vinfodb.html > > may GURUJI bless yor trying to help me > if you have time why dont you try to post an inspiring article abt swami vivekananda... you seems to have lot of books abt him affectionately Jai Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 Namaste Sri Anu! Biruji has a point- talking along does not constitute satsangh but any contact among like minded people constitutes satsangh. And in this age, where everyone is cringing with anti-spirituality, it wise to stickaround with similar minded people. To properly evaluate a person, all you have to do is to take a look at his friends. So I humbly request both you and Amit to not do a vanishing act. Now coming to something very practical and not just talking all the time, here is a very useful aid on developing concentration- most of us would find that in doing japa most of the time our thoughts are in something other than the object of the japa. The mind is like a dog - when the dog sees a cow it keeps running towards it. Then we yell at it to come back and then it sees another cow and then again we yell at it to come back. Then it sees another cow ..... The mind needs training to be one-focused. So here is a very practical way to develop concentration. Start doing japa with the mala from the meru, when you have first stray thought, start back from the meru(and firmly admonish the mind, that if you do deviate again, I will punish you by going back to the meru, the mind will be petrified and will gradually start obeying you). This is adapted from the book Meditation by Eknath Eswaran. Aum Namasivaya, Vijay --- devi_bhagat <devi_bhagat wrote: > dear birendraji > though i and amit have agreed to vanish, i wish to > thank you and him > too for efforts. i first downloaded and reinstalled > norton anti virus > but it went hayware. i then tried 30 day free trial > of PCcillin. it to > said that there are no viruses. but then this is a > better software and > when i scanned my PC after installing it gave me the > name: > WORM_GONER.A. but the problem was it could do > nothing to it, clean > rename, delete or quarantine. i then searched for > the virus on the > net and found a fix on www.antivirus.com, followed > instructions. so > today i reinstalled and uninstalled my antivirus > software many times > trying various things. but for some reason i still > got a message that > the virus was there ---now i understand that it was > in the restore > folder (for ME)which cannot be cleaned until you > disable to. this was > an instruction at www.symantec.com where i > downloaded another fix > again. it said it found nothing. BUt thisytime after > enabling my > system restore, and reistalling the PCcillin > software, it still has > not found anything.. so maidan maar liya. > > good, i learned new things, now i will look into the > damage, and see > what can be undone. OK, > then i vanish again > > wishes... > anu > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 , Yoga man <childofdevi> wrote: > > Namaste Sri Anu! namaste, The mind is like a dog - when the > dog sees a cow it keeps running towards it. Then we > yell at it to come back and then it sees another cow > and then again we yell at it to come back. Then it > sees another cow ..... The mind needs training to be > one-focused. So here is a very practical way to > develop concentration. Start doing japa with the mala > from the meru, when you have first stray thought, > start back from the meru(and firmly admonish the mind, > that if you do deviate again, I will punish you by > going back to the meru, the mind will be petrified and > will gradually start obeying you). This is adapted > from the book Meditation by Eknath Eswaran. > with my kind of a mind and will power, i will restart the mala n no. of times and then give it to the deity to take care with a charming smile explaining that i am tired.... seriously though i will try it. maybe it will work. for sitting on longer durations, i will tell you a tip but please try it only if you are healthy. jog 15 minutes a day, and before the jap stand in a cold shower for a minute. no really hot baths. it works for me. wishes, anu > Aum Namasivaya, > Vijay > > > > --- devi_bhagat <devi_bhagat> wrote: > > dear birendraji > > though i and amit have agreed to vanish, i wish to > > thank you and him > > too for efforts. i first downloaded and reinstalled > > norton anti virus > > but it went hayware. i then tried 30 day free trial > > of PCcillin. it to > > said that there are no viruses. but then this is a > > better software and > > when i scanned my PC after installing it gave me the > > name: > > WORM_GONER.A. but the problem was it could do > > nothing to it, clean > > rename, delete or quarantine. i then searched for > > the virus on the > > net and found a fix on www.antivirus.com, followed > > instructions. so > > today i reinstalled and uninstalled my antivirus > > software many times > > trying various things. but for some reason i still > > got a message that > > the virus was there ---now i understand that it was > > in the restore > > folder (for ME)which cannot be cleaned until you > > disable to. this was > > an instruction at www.symantec.com where i > > downloaded another fix > > again. it said it found nothing. BUt thisytime after > > enabling my > > system restore, and reistalling the PCcillin > > software, it still has > > not found anything.. so maidan maar liya. > > > > good, i learned new things, now i will look into the > > damage, and see > > what can be undone. OK, > > then i vanish again > > > > wishes... > > anu > > > > > > > > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! > http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 > > that if you do deviate n. > > > > with my kind of a mind and will power, i will > restart the mala n no. > of times and then give it to the deity to take care > with a charming > smile explaining that i am tired.... seriously > though i will try it. this sounds very trivial but it works and is the substance of the book that i mentioned. > maybe it will work. > for sitting on longer durations, i will tell you a > tip but please try > it only if you are healthy. jog 15 minutes a day, > and before the jap > stand in a cold shower for a minute. no really hot sounds like the cold shower will freeze you into a stone and thats how you stop thinking:-) i read somewhere that cold showers are beneficial for the brain but me no like cold showers! Aum namasivaya, Vijay > baths. it works for > me. > wishes, > anu > > Aum Namasivaya, > > Vijay > > > > > > > > --- devi_bhagat <devi_bhagat> wrote: > > > dear birendraji > > > though i and amit have agreed to vanish, i wish > to > > > thank you and him > > > too for efforts. i first downloaded and > reinstalled > > > norton anti virus > > > but it went hayware. i then tried 30 day free > trial > > > of PCcillin. it to > > > said that there are no viruses. but then this is > a > > > better software and > > > when i scanned my PC after installing it gave me > the > > > name: > > > WORM_GONER.A. but the problem was it could do > > > nothing to it, clean > > > rename, delete or quarantine. i then searched > for > > > the virus on the > > > net and found a fix on www.antivirus.com, > followed > > > instructions. so > > > today i reinstalled and uninstalled my antivirus > > > software many times > > > trying various things. but for some reason i > still > > > got a message that > > > the virus was there ---now i understand that it > was > > > in the restore > > > folder (for ME)which cannot be cleaned until you > > > disable to. this was > > > an instruction at www.symantec.com where i > > > downloaded another fix > > > again. it said it found nothing. BUt thisytime > after > > > enabling my > > > system restore, and reistalling the PCcillin > > > software, it still has > > > not found anything.. so maidan maar liya. > > > > > > good, i learned new things, now i will look into > the > > > damage, and see > > > what can be undone. OK, > > > then i vanish again > > > > > > wishes... > > > anu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! > > http://promo./videomail/ > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 > > sounds like the cold shower will freeze you into a > stone and thats how you stop thinking:-) i went to a friend of mine telling him about this therapy. (naturopathy) have a really hot shower, and then a cld one. works wonders for circulation, and treats all ailments. he told me that is a really nice therapy you found. at least the first part is very nice. OK then , avoid hot showers. keep them luke warm. and atleast jog. > > i read somewhere that cold showers are beneficial for > the brain but me no like cold showers! > > we were talking about will power, and changing destiny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 --- devi_bhagat <devi_bhagat wrote: > > > > > sounds like the cold shower will freeze you into a > > stone and thats how you stop thinking:-) > > i went to a friend of mine telling him about this > therapy. > (naturopathy) have a really hot shower, and then a > cld one. works > wonders for circulation, and treats all ailments. he > told me that is a > really nice therapy you found. at least the first > part is very nice. The problem with naturopathy and cold showers is that it works only for people of a specified constitution. I read a book called Awaken the Giant within by Anthony Robbins and he suggested a diet that could make him work continuously for 20 hours a day(living on vegetables and fruits). A lot of painful expirimenation told me that this is not good for Vata-pitta type people like me as are cold showers. And also the Swatmarama in his Hatha Yoga pradipika says on the path of yoga one of the things to avoid is cold water showers in the morning-this may have very well to do something with his circumstance and his constitution. There was query sometime back about loss of memory. So as not to digress from the purpose of this list, I would recommend an excellant book by Vasand Lad and David Frawley called Yoga of Herbs. > we were talking about will power, and changing > destiny... Do you know of the story of the overweight glutton who wanted to use mindpower to eat more and more food.. therefore I will not to have cold showers:-) Aum Namasivaya, Vijay > > > > Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 dear vijay, > > > Biruji has a point- talking along does not constitute > satsangh but any contact among like minded people > constitutes satsangh. And in this age, where everyone > is cringing with anti-spirituality, it wise to > stickaround with similar minded people. To properly > evaluate a person, all you have to do is to take a > look at his friends. So I humbly request both you and > Amit to not do a vanishing act. > you got the point, i appreciate it. affectionately Jai Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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