Remember Swami Vivekananda

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Jai Gurudev,

 

Dear all, Jan 12 (1863-1902) is the birthday of Swami Vivekanada...

 

 

His teachings and writing were mainly instrumental in inspiring and

guiding , in those early days of my entry into spiritualism...

until i found Bade Gurudev(Dr Narain Dutt Shrimaliji)

 

As a rememberance Iam posting a poem writtten by him... and which i

like personally and

which i feel if understood would help lead to find a sadGuru or

understand him if one has any...

 

 

i personally believe this is the type of yearning that will lead to

Lord in form of sadGuru or if you want to become vivekananda

This is the SHARANAGATI stage in a way...,

 

the other instance of sharanagati comes after you understand your

SadGuru by his grace (if you have already one )

 

this is what i believe and experienced in my life...

 

This message is for people like vijay bhaskar and all those who are

looking for a satGuru

 

Things need not be 100% this but should be in this direction...

 

 

 

 

Quest for God

 

 

(This was part of the letter written by Swamiji on Sep. 4, 1893 to

Prof. J.H. Wright of Boston who introduced Swami Vivekananda in the

Parliament of Rligions.)

 

 

O'ver hill and dale and mountain range,

In temple, church, and mosque,

In Vedas, Bible, Al Koran

I had searched for Thee in vain.

Like a child in the wildest forest lost

I have cried and cried alone,

"Where art Thou gone, my God, my love?

The echo answered, "gone."

And days and nights and years then passed

A fire was in the brain,

I knew not when day changed in night

The heart seemed rent in twain.

I laid me down on Ganges's shore,

Exposed to sun and rain;

With burning tears I laid the dust

And wailed with waters' roar.

I called on all the holy names

Of every clime and creed.

"Show me the way, in mercy, ye

Great ones who have reached the goal."

Years then passed in bitter cry,

Eacch moment seemed an age,

Till one day midst my cries and groans

Some one seemed calling me.

A gentle soft and soothing voice

That said 'my son' 'my son',

That seemed to thrill in unison

With all the chords of my soul.

I stood on my feet and tried to find

The place the voice came from;

I searched and searched and turned to see

Round me, before, behind,

Again, again it seemed to speak

The voice divine to me.

In rapture all my soul was hushed,

Entranced, enthralled in bliss.

A flash illumined all my soul;

The heart of my heart opened wide.

O joy, O bliss, what do I find!

My love, my love you are here

And you are here, my love, my all!

And I was searching thee -

>From all eternity you were there

Enthroned in majesty!

>From that day forth, wherever I roam,

I feel Him standing by

O'ver hill and dale, high mount and vale,

Far far away and high.

The moon's soft light, the stars so bright,

The glorious orb of day,

He shines in them; His beauty - might -

Reflected lights are they.

The majestic morn, the melting eve,

Teh boundless billowing sea,

In nature's beauty, songs of birds,

I see through them - it is He.

When dire calamity seizes me,

The heart seems weak and faint,

All natures seems to crush me down,

With laws that never bend.

Meseems I hear Thee whispering sweet

My love, "I am near", "I am near".

My heart gets strong. With thee, my love,

A thousand deaths no fear.

Thou speakest in the mother's lay

Thous shuts the babies eye,

When innocent children laugh and play,

I see Thee standing by.

When holy friendship shakes the hand,

He stands between them too;

He pours the nectar in mother's kiss

And the baby's sweet "mama".

Thou were my God with prophets old,

All creeds do come from Thee,

The Vedas, Bible, and Koran bold

Sing Thee in Harmony.

"Thou art," Thou art" the Soul of souls

In the rushing stream of life.

"Om tat sat om." Thou art my God,

My love, I am thine, I am thine.

 

 

 

May all of you understand a SatGuru in REAL terms,if you have already

one and if you dont may you start yearning in this direction HUMBLY,

INNOCENTLY,DESPERATELY,GENTLY,UNDEMANDINGLY,SUPPLIANTLY.....

 

 

love

Jai Gurudev

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"You cannot believe in GOD until you believe in yourself."

 

"Condemn none: if you can stretch out a helping hand, do so. If you

cannot, fold your hands, bless your brothers and let them go their own

way".

 

" When we really begin to live in the world, then we understand what

is meant by brotherhood or mankind, and not before."

 

'FEEL like Christ and you will be a Christ; feel like Buddha and you

will be a Buddha. It is feeling that is the life, the strength, the

vitality, without which no amount of intellectual activity can reach

God.'

 

'THE will is not free- it is a phenomenon bound by cause and effect

-but there is something behind the will which is free.'

 

Each soul is potentially divine . The goal is to manifest this

divinity within by controlling nature , external and internal. Do this

either by work , or worship or psychic control or philosophy - by one

or more or all of these and be free. This is the whole of religion.

Doctrines or dogmas, or rituals or books, or temples or forms, are but

secondary detail".

 

Note: he is referring karma, bhakti, raj and gyaan yog here.

 

 

'AS the different streams having their sources in different

paths which men take through different tendencies, various though they

appear, crooked or straight, all lead to Thee.

 

'THROUGH prayer, the love of God grows and assumes a form

which is called supreme devotion. Forms vanish, rituals fly away,

books are superseded, images, temples, churches, religions and sects,

countries and nationalities - all these little limitations and

bondages fall off by their own nature from him who knows this love of

God.' TO worship God even for the sake of salvation or any other

reward is equally degenerate. Love knows no reward. Give your love

unto to God, but do not ask anything in return even from Him through

pray.'

 

' A man may be the greatest philosopher in the world but a child in

RELIGION. When a man has developed a high state of spirituality he can

understand that the kingdom of heaven is within him.'

 

Practise meditation sincerely and you will understand His infinite

grace. God wants sincerity, truthfulness and love. Outward verbal

effusions do not touch Him.

 

Many are known to do great things under the stress of some

strong emotion. But a man's true nature is known from the manner in

which he does his insignificant daily task.

 

I tell you one thing-if you want peace, do not find fault with others.

Rather see your own faults. Learn to make the world your own. No

one is a stranger, my child; the whole world is your own."

 

"God is one's very own. It is the eternal relationship. He is

everyone's own. One realizes him in proportion to the intensity of

one's feelings for him."

 

"Avoid everyone, however great or good he may be, who asks you to

believe blindly. It is healthier for the individual or race to remain

wicked than to be made apparently good by such morbid, extraneous

control - beware of everything that takes away your freedom."

 

In criticising another, we always foolishly take one especially

brilliant point as the whole of our life and compare that with the

dark ones in the life of another. Thus we make mistakes in judging

individuals.

 

'THE Lord is great! - He will not allow me to become a hypocrite. Now

let what is

in come out....'

'GOD of truth, be Thou alone my guide..'

 

 

I do not have a single book by him. Nor have I ever read any of his

books. You know, when my mother was pregnant with me, she was reading

Vivekananda. At least in my life I never saw her read them again. As a

young teenager I had picked the two books we had at home, and read a

few pages here and there I cannot read philosophy from one end to

other. I find it boring frankly. I never met swami nikhileshwarand. My

acceptance of him as a guru is far from complete. But one thing is

100% sure. Even if I this submission happens, it will be only to him

and never to any other human being claiming to be close to him. I

start on this condition. if I succeed in sadhnas, so be it. If I fail,

so be it.

 

We are what our thoughts have made us; so take care about what you

think. Words are secondary. Thoughts live; they travel far.

 

Just like you people weigh right or wrong by his definitions, I used

to do the same for Vivekananda as a kid. But I do not do that any more

for anybody. He was, and always will be my first guru. Every word that

comes out of my mouth that carries weight has him as origin and comes

from him.. Everything that becomes confused is because my ego comes

in. this the whole truth.

 

"Knowledge means freedom from the errors which ignorance leads

to...Men are not bold enough to speak out broad truths, for fear of

losing the respect of the people...This attempt at compromise proceeds

from arrant downright cowardice. Be bold! My children should be brave,

above all. Not the least compromise on any account. Preach the highest

truths broadcast. Do not fear losing your respect or causing unhappy

friction. Rest assured that if you serve truth in spite of temptations

to forsake it, you will attain to a heavenly strength in the face of

which men will quail to speak before you things which you do not

believe to be true."

 

"Practice is absolutely necessary. You may sit and listen to me by the

hour everyday, but if you do not practice, you will not get one step

further. Never mind the failures; they are quite natural, they are the

beauty of life-these failures. What would life be without them? It

would not be worth having if it were not for struggles. Where would be

the poetry of life? Never mind the struggles, the mistakes. To succeed

you must have tremendous perseverance, tremendous will. "I will drink

the ocean," says the persevering soul; "at my will mountains will

crumble up." Have that sort of energy, that sort of will; work hard,

and you will reach the goal.

 

It is the fear that is the great cause of misery in the world. It is

fear that is the greatest of all superstitions. It is fear that is the

cause of our woes, and it is fearlessness that brings heaven even in a

moment... Therefore, Arise, awake, and stop not till the goal is

reached."

 

..."It is the coward and the fool who says, 'This is fate' " - so says

the Sanskrit proverb. But it is the strong man who stands up and says,

"I will make my fate"...... You will find that astrology and all these

mystical things are generally signs of a weak mind;

therefore as soon as they are becoming prominent n our minds, we

should see a physician, take good food and rest.... They may have a

little influence; but it is our duty to ignore them rather hearken to

them and make ourselves nervous.... anything that brings spiritual,

mental, or physical weakness, touch it not with the toes of your

feet.... A spring of infinite power is coiled up and is inside the

little body, and that spring is spreading itself. And as it goes

on spreading, body after body is found insufficient; it

throws them off and takes higher bodies.... The highest things are

under your feet, because you are Divine Stars; all these things are

under your feet. ou can swallow the stars by the handful if you want;

such is your real nature. Be strong, get beyond all superstitions, and

be free."

 

thank you very very much , birendraji. i just searched them on the

web. thanks again, i needed it all so badly

good wishes,

 

anu

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this for amit and me

 

Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life. Think of it, dream of

it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of

your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other ideas

alone. This is the way to success. If we really want to be blessed

and make others blessed, we must go deeper. ….

 

Take one thing up and do it, and see the end of it, and before you

have seen the end, do not give up. This is the way to success. This is

how spiritual giants are produced. Others are mere talking machines.

Those who only take a nibble here and a nibble there will never attain

anything. Those are the unpersevering. They hear a talk, think it very

nice, go home and forget all about it. To succeed you must have

tremendous perseverance, tremendous will. "I will drink the ocean,"

says the persevering soul; "at my will mountains will crumble up."

Have that sort of energy, that sort of will; work hard, and you will

reach the goal.

 

the actual para of which the famous---arise awake ans stop not till

goal is reached, i never found anywhere. though the web was filled

with this sentence. and i do not remember the whole of it.

good wishes,

anu

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---jai gurudev

found some more...

Religion is not in books, nor in theories, nor in dogmas, nor in

talking, not even in reasoning. It is being and becoming

 

To obstruct thoughts which are inimical to Yoga, contrary thoughts

should be brought.That is the way to practise the virtues that have

been stated. For instance, when a big wave of anger has come into the

mind, how are we to control that? Just by raising an opposing wave.

Think of love. Sometimes a mother is very angry with her husband, and

while in that state, the baby comes in, and she kisses the baby; the

old wave dies out and a new wave arises, love for the child. That

suppresses the other one. Love is opposite to anger. Similarly, when

the idea of stealing comes, non-stealing should be thought of; when

the idea of receiving gifts comes, replace it by a contrary thought.

 

The obstructions to Yoga are killing, falsehood, etc., whether

committed, caused, or approved; either through avarice, or anger, or

ignorance; whether slight, middling, or great; and they result in

infinite ignorance and misery. This is (the method of) thinking the

contrary.If I tell a lie, or cause another to tell one, or approve of

another doing so, it is equally sinful. If it is a very mild lie,

still it is a lie. Every vicious thought will rebound, every thought

of hatred which you may have thought, in a cave even,

is stored up, and will one day come back to you with tremendous power

in the form of some misery here. If you project hatred and jealousy,

they will rebound on you with compound interest. No power can avert

them; when once you have put them in motion, you will have to bear

them. Remembering this will prevent you from doing wicked things.

 

 

Let nothing daunt you. Who on earth has the power to snub us so long

as the Lord favors us? Even if you are at your last breath, be not

afraid. Work on with the intrepidity of a lion but at the same time

with the tenderness of a flower.

 

By repetition of the Mantra comes the realisation of the intended

deity. The higher the beings that you want to get the harder is the

practice.

 

"Let your brother work out his own destiny, even mentally do not

interfere."

 

My life is more precious than spending it in getting the admiration of

the world.

 

Have faith, in yourselves,great convictions are the mothers of

great deeds.

 

Ever steeped in the darkness of ignorance, yet considering themselves

wise and learned, the fools go round and round, staggering to and fro

like the blind led by the blind (Katha Upanishad 1, ii.5)

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> the actual para of which the famous---arise awake

> ans stop not till

> goal is reached, i never found anywhere. though the

 

uddhishtatha, jagrata, prapyavaraam nibodhata (arise,

awake and stop not till the goal is reached)- this is

from the Katha Upanishad.

 

Aum Namasivaya,

Vijay

> web was filled

> with this sentence. and i do not remember the whole

> of it.

> good wishes,

> anu

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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jai Gurudev

 

dear anu,

 

 

 

 

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote:-> 'GOD

>

>

> I do not have a single book by him. Nor have I ever read any of his

> books. You know, when my mother was pregnant with me, she was

reading

> Vivekananda. At least in my life I never saw her read them again.

As

a

> young teenager I had picked the two books we had at home, and read

a

> few pages here and there I cannot read philosophy from one end to

> other.

 

 

 

i thought when you were giving references you had them, but i find

your memory power amazing,i have heard arjunas son(i forgot the name)

remembering the way to get into chakravyuha when arjuna was telling

it

to his wife (again forgot this name) when she was pregnanant and later

krishna comes and takes him away and story gets interrupted....

 

and in one of the books Gurudev mentions that pregnant baby can be

given initiation for chaitanyata ,and it will absorb things very fast

becos at that point child has lot of conc as developmnet is taking

place and so on..., i believe it, but still i have never come across

live example until you ...

 

its very amazing...,you have this thing wired up right from ur

birthitself...ur parents had taken good care of you. it would be nice

if other parents/would be parents would realise this and do that...

 

 

 

 

 

>I never met swami nikhileshwarand.

My

> acceptance of him as a guru is far from complete. But one thing is

> 100% sure. Even if I this submission happens, it will be only to

him

> and never to any other human being claiming to be close to him. I

> start on this condition. if I succeed in sadhnas, so be it. If I

fail,

> so be it.

 

Dont worry he will take care of you, When you want a sadguru just go

for him why less than him/ or anyone close to him, identify all the

attribtes of satguru as and when you can and, apply on all the

personalities that come in ur life in that position and surrender to

him that u find most worth.

My personal experience is that finding sadGuru is intself a great

sadhana where you have to get to the state as described in the poem

(quest of God), you have to yearn for him with one goal and all focus

that he come to you whereever he is, and not leave u. atleast

for vivekananda it worked , i too followed the similar root it worked

for me too , though i was not as great as vivekananda, though iam no

where

near him, but still God is our own he has to come...

 

 

i too am trying too learn one lesson that however good people may

appear, you with ur little brain cant judge anyone correctly, before

you know that things are wrong , you would have lost faith, money and

put ur self in great confusion, so this thing also happened to swami

vivekananda, but he was persistent with his goal , he asked every

saint he came across

"CAN YOU SHOW ME THE LORD" only ramakrishna paramhamsa could satisfy

him.

 

i better understand your position now.

Defenitely his grace only , or our sincere and humble effort only can

save us.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> thank you very very much , birendraji. i just searched them on the

> web. thanks again, i needed it all so badly

> good wishes,

 

iam happy that you are rediscovering, your ownself,your own vivekanda

Good luck and Good wishes

 

 

 

love

Jai Gurudev

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, "birendra_m" <birendra_m> wrote:

> jai Gurudev

>

> i thought when you were giving references you had them, but i find

> your memory power amazing,

are bhaiya, aisa kuch nahin hai. but true i can remember things

clearly i like. unfortunately most academic persuits do not fall in

it. but, yes a mother's thoughts emotions are important in the

development of the child. so keep your wife happy. but please do not

force her to read philosophy if she is not interested.

 

as for intiation/kundalini jagran of an unborn child, i would never

ever go for it ever. whoever be my guru, my child should be free to

choose to grow up to be an atheist if he chooses. i have never/ and

will never force my family too to take intitiation from someone i

accept as guru. these things are a matter of individual choice.

good wishes

jaigurudev

anu

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Jai Gurudev,

Its delight to hear Swami ji's works. Every word of his is inspiring & true.

Thanks to "Anu ji" for the commitment, hardwork she puts in & "doses" of inspiration she gives.

Rohit Anand.

-

devi_bhagat

Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:28 PM

Re: Remember Swami Vivekananda

---jai gurudevfound some more...Religion is not in books, nor in theories, nor

in dogmas, nor in talking, not even in reasoning. It is being and becomingTo

obstruct thoughts which are inimical to Yoga, contrary thoughts should be

brought.That is the way to practise the virtues that have been stated. For

instance, when a big wave of anger has come into the mind, how are we to

control that? Just by raising an opposing wave. Think of love. Sometimes a

mother is very angry with her husband, and while in that state, the baby comes

in, and she kisses the baby; the old wave dies out and a new wave arises, love

for the child. That suppresses the other one. Love is opposite to anger.

Similarly, when the idea of stealing comes, non-stealing should be thought of;

when the idea of receiving gifts comes, replace it by a contrary thought.The

obstructions to Yoga are killing, falsehood, etc., whether committed, caused,

or approved; either through avarice, or anger, or ignorance; whether slight,

middling, or great; and they result in infinite ignorance and misery. This is

(the method of) thinking the contrary.If I tell a lie, or cause another to tell

one, or approve of another doing so, it is equally sinful. If it is a very mild

lie, still it is a lie. Every vicious thought will rebound, every thought of

hatred which you may have thought, in a cave even,is stored up, and will one

day come back to you with tremendous power in the form of some misery here. If

you project hatred and jealousy, they will rebound on you with compound

interest. No power can avert them; when once you have put them in motion, you

will have to bear them. Remembering this will prevent you from doing wicked

things. Let nothing daunt you. Who on earth has the power to snub us so long

as the Lord favors us? Even if you are at your last breath, be not afraid.

Work on with the intrepidity of a lion but at the same time with the tenderness

of a flower.By repetition of the Mantra comes the realisation of the intended

deity. The higher the beings that you want to get the harder is the

practice."Let your brother work out his own destiny, even mentally do not

interfere."My life is more precious than spending it in getting the admiration

of the world.Have faith, in yourselves,great convictions are the mothers of

great deeds.Ever steeped in the darkness of ignorance, yet considering

themselves wise and learned, the fools go round and round, staggering to and

fro like the blind led by the blind (Katha Upanishad 1, ii.5) Jay GurudevYour

use of is subject to the

[Guest guest]

--- Indear rohit,

please do not bother calling me anuji. i noticed yesterday that you

ware the same person who was worrying abour kaal sarpa yog.

my most sincere advice

chant mahamritunjaya

wishes,

anu

 

>

> Thanks to "Anu ji" for the commitment, hardwork she puts in &

"doses" of inspiration she gives.

>

> Rohit Anand.

>

> -

> devi_bhagat

>

> Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:28 PM

> Re: Remember Swami Vivekananda

>

>

> ---jai gurudev

> found some more...

> Religion is not in books, nor in theories, nor in dogmas, nor in

> talking, not even in reasoning. It is being and becoming

>

> To obstruct thoughts which are inimical to Yoga, contrary thoughts

> should be brought.That is the way to practise the virtues that

have

> been stated. For instance, when a big wave of anger has come into

the

> mind, how are we to control that? Just by raising an opposing

wave.

> Think of love. Sometimes a mother is very angry with her husband,

and

> while in that state, the baby comes in, and she kisses the baby;

the

> old wave dies out and a new wave arises, love for the child. That

> suppresses the other one. Love is opposite to anger. Similarly,

when

> the idea of stealing comes, non-stealing should be thought of;

when

> the idea of receiving gifts comes, replace it by a contrary

thought.

>

> The obstructions to Yoga are killing, falsehood, etc., whether

> committed, caused, or approved; either through avarice, or anger,

or

> ignorance; whether slight, middling, or great; and they result in

> infinite ignorance and misery. This is (the method of) thinking

the

> contrary.If I tell a lie, or cause another to tell one, or approve

of

> another doing so, it is equally sinful. If it is a very mild lie,

> still it is a lie. Every vicious thought will rebound, every

thought

> of hatred which you may have thought, in a cave even,

> is stored up, and will one day come back to you with tremendous

power

> in the form of some misery here. If you project hatred and

jealousy,

> they will rebound on you with compound interest. No power can

avert

> them; when once you have put them in motion, you will have to bear

> them. Remembering this will prevent you from doing wicked things.

>

>

> Let nothing daunt you. Who on earth has the power to snub us so

long

> as the Lord favors us? Even if you are at your last breath, be

not

> afraid. Work on with the intrepidity of a lion but at the same

time

> with the tenderness of a flower.

>

> By repetition of the Mantra comes the realisation of the intended

> deity. The higher the beings that you want to get the harder is

the

> practice.

>

> "Let your brother work out his own destiny, even mentally do not

> interfere."

>

> My life is more precious than spending it in getting the

admiration of

> the world.

>

> Have faith, in yourselves,great convictions are the mothers of

> great deeds.

>

> Ever steeped in the darkness of ignorance, yet considering

themselves

> wise and learned, the fools go round and round, staggering to and

fro

> like the blind led by the blind (Katha Upanishad 1, ii.5)

>

>

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

>

>

> Jay Gurudev

>

>

>

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

[Guest guest]

Dear Friend Anu,

I only wanted to take more advice or know more solutions about Kaal Sarp Yog,

which your rightly gave to me. I dont have Kaal Sarp Yog in my horoscope. I do

chant Mahamritunjaya Mantra.

Good Recollection Indeed.

Thanks.

Rohit Anand.

-

devi_bhagat

Monday, January 14, 2002 4:24 PM

Re: Remember Swami Vivekananda

--- Indear rohit,please do not bother calling me anuji. i noticed yesterday that

you ware the same person who was worrying abour kaal sarpa yog.my most sincere

advicechant mahamritunjayawishes,anu> > Thanks to "Anu ji" for the commitment,

hardwork she puts in & "doses" of inspiration she gives.> > Rohit Anand.> >

- > devi_bhagat > >

Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:28 PM> Re: Remember

Swami Vivekananda> > > ---jai gurudev> found some more...> Religion is

not in books, nor in theories, nor in dogmas, nor in > talking, not even in

reasoning. It is being and becoming> > To obstruct thoughts which are

inimical to Yoga, contrary thoughts > should be brought.That is the way to

practise the virtues that have > been stated. For instance, when a big wave

of anger has come into the > mind, how are we to control that? Just by

raising an opposing wave. > Think of love. Sometimes a mother is very angry

with her husband, and > while in that state, the baby comes in, and she

kisses the baby; the > old wave dies out and a new wave arises, love for the

child. That > suppresses the other one. Love is opposite to anger. Similarly,

when > the idea of stealing comes, non-stealing should be thought of; when >

the idea of receiving gifts comes, replace it by a contrary thought.> > The

obstructions to Yoga are killing, falsehood, etc., whether > committed,

caused, or approved; either through avarice, or anger, or > ignorance;

whether slight, middling, or great; and they result in > infinite ignorance

and misery. This is (the method of) thinking the > contrary.If I tell a lie,

or cause another to tell one, or approve of > another doing so, it is equally

sinful. If it is a very mild lie, > still it is a lie. Every vicious thought

will rebound, every thought > of hatred which you may have thought, in a cave

even,> is stored up, and will one day come back to you with tremendous power >

in the form of some misery here. If you project hatred and jealousy, > they

will rebound on you with compound interest. No power can avert > them; when

once you have put them in motion, you will have to bear > them. Remembering

this will prevent you from doing wicked things. > > > Let nothing daunt you.

Who on earth has the power to snub us so long > as the Lord favors us? Even

if you are at your last breath, be not > afraid. Work on with the

intrepidity of a lion but at the same time > with the tenderness of a

flower.> > By repetition of the Mantra comes the realisation of the intended

> deity. The higher the beings that you want to get the harder is the >

practice.> > "Let your brother work out his own destiny, even mentally do not

> interfere."> > My life is more precious than spending it in getting the

admiration of > the world.> > Have faith, in yourselves,great convictions

are the mothers of > great deeds.> > Ever steeped in the darkness of

ignorance, yet considering themselves > wise and learned, the fools go round

and round, staggering to and fro > like the blind led by the blind (Katha

Upanishad 1, ii.5) > > > > Sponsor >

> > > > > Jay Gurudev> > > > > >

Jay

Gurudev

[Guest guest]

One of the main reasons of Pujya Gurudev to grihast life was to establish

the divinity again. After many years he realised that its not happening.

People rise but they fall again. He said that there is so much venom in

todays world that even 50 Shree Krishna will be less to save this world.

Then he said that now we will have to teach the new one to be born in the

womb itself. Only these young ones will be able to save this world.

 

And Pujya Gurudev have blessed some of the young one who have some of the

kalas of different gods and they are growing and their characteristics are

similar to those of respective gods.

 

Gurudev has given a very very precious sadhana in two cassettes Grihasth

Balak 1 and Grihasth Balak 2. Its for the first time after 3000 yrs that

gurudev revived these divine mantras. The whole universe and the all the

knowledge that prevails in whatvever is there ( in this brahmaand and even

beyond that ) is compressed in to these mantras. Its one fortune to be able

to listen to these mantras. I heard to these mantras and its very true that

these are so great that one will find it mind boggling to comprehend what

all can these mantras make a child to be. And these mantras are helpful to

everyone. A child will become as great as one can be. Its better to the

teach child in womb then to teach that child the same thing in 25 yrs.

 

Gurudev has said that animals too give birth giving birth is not a great

event. Mother doesn't become great just by giving birth. She will become

great when she gives a birth to a child who is capable enough to change the

world who has energy and rightiousness to fight for good. One son of this

calibre is more better than 1000 1000 sons. Someone who will be able to hold

the torch to show the path to millions.

 

Sri ramakrishna paramhansa has said follow whatever path follow whatver

practice in the end its your kundalini that has to get awakened. And it can

get awakened by different

ways. And so has been bit of my experience when i sing bhajans, say prayers

chant mantras they resonate in me.

 

After realising the strength the liveliness in spirituality why didn't you

teach me all these things since i was a child i would have lived like man

rather than living like a

fool who has been a mere puppet to this world and who didn't knew what his

true potential is. Now when i look back at all the knowledge all the

sciences i know where i stand.

 

its true that someone has said "ignorance is the biggest enemy and to choose

to remain ignorant is even more serious".

 

 

>as for intiation/kundalini jagran of an unborn child, i would never

>ever go for it ever. whoever be my guru, my child should be free to

>choose to grow up to be an atheist if he chooses. i have never/ and

>will never force my family too to take intitiation from someone i

>accept as guru. these things are a matter of individual choice.

>good wishes

>jaigurudev

>anu

>

>

 

 

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[Guest guest]

dear anurag,

thank you. may god bless you.

good wishes

jaigurudev

anu

>

>

[Guest guest]

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>

 

anurag,, guess what???

i just found your home page. did not know you are from iisc. also

found the link to guruji's books

cute home page.

also you know what i was also born in rohtak -and never went there

again.... so i consider myself a jaatni, and i have a very soft

corner for all haryanvi people, they are so cute. one of my closest

friends is also a haryanvi--but she is big govt officer now.

 

i never seen the kind of independence women have there given anywhere

else.

on my friend's marraige i met a very old aunt of hers,

casually smoking the beeri, she came to me

ai, kis ki chori hai re tu--

me no less--apni maa ki.

 

 

 

 

as for unborn child, bhaiya

 

it is not an independent decision, now that you have enlightened me,

i will send my husband for a free consultation to you.

 

wishes

 

jaigurudev

anu

 

but i love speaking haryanvi,

i love all the policemen and bus conductors in delhi. they are my

friends.

 

when i came to europe,

a european friend commented all indian men are short....( i am 5'5")

of course they are not, i told him. the ones who are educated are from

south, and east- they are short. they are intelligent educated etc etc

 

the ones who are tall and handsome, they

become bus conductors.....

[Guest guest]

JAI GURUDEV

Dear Anu...

> anurag,, guess what??? i just found your home page.

 

Where is it? I want to visit it.

> when i came to europe, a european friend commented all indian men

> are short....( i am 5'5")

 

I'm 5'10". Am I short??? I'm a Maharashtrian Brahmin. Well, no Jaat.

 

Ashish...

[Guest guest]

> I'm 5'10". Am I short??? I'm a Maharashtrian Brahmin. Well, no Jaat.

>

of course you are not. maharshtrian people are given special grace

marks by me. you know outside, the mahalaxmi temple in bombay, i saw

such pretty women well dressed. red lipstick and all ..since men are

usually blood relatives of women, i think we can make an exception.

 

but then i will vanish, but before i vanish, and get beaten up, i will

quote the great zeenat aman

 

among indian women 8 out of 10 are beautiful,

among indian men 8 out of 10 are not so beautiful.

amit, kindly note that this applies to the whole sub continent, so

please do not feel left out....

 

 

 

ok i vanish....

> Ashish...

[Guest guest]

Dear Anu...

> > anurag,, guess what??? i just found your home page.

> Where is it? I want to visit it.

 

Well, I found it any way. Google is great. For all who want to know

Anurag Goel better, visit:

 

http://minchu.ee.iisc.ernet.in/people/students/anurag

 

Sorry, Anurag if it was meant to kept secret (on the web???).

 

Ashish...

[Guest guest]

hey ashish,

anurag works at gitec corp so how sure are u that it belongs to

anurag?

[Guest guest]

, "birendra_m" <birendra_m> wrote:

> hey ashish,

> anurag works at gitec corp so how sure are u that it belongs to

> anurag?

 

SWAMIJI,

YOU are so innocent. do you think every anurag goel will be a devotee

of gurudev, and have kundalini jaagrana s as a

hobby???

 

aap bas baith ke apna logic lagate raho....

jai gurudev

anu

[Guest guest]

JAI GURUDEV

Dear Biru...

> hey ashish,

> anurag works at gitec corp so how sure are u that it belongs to

> anurag?

 

Well, that's right too. Maybe Anurag can tell. Anurag, are you

listening?

 

Ashish...

[Guest guest]

Dear Anu...

> SWAMIJI, YOU are so innocent. do you think every anurag goel will

> be a devotee of gurudev, and have kundalini jaagrana s as a

> hobby???

 

Do you have a homepage?

 

Ashish...

[Guest guest]

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote:

> , "birendra_m" <birendra_m> wrote:

> > hey ashish,

> > anurag works at gitec corp so how sure are u that it belongs to

> > anurag?

>

> SWAMIJI,

> YOU are so innocent. do you think every anurag goel will be a

devotee

> of gurudev, and have kundalini jaagrana s as a

> hobby???

>

> aap bas baith ke apna logic lagate raho....

> jai gurudev

 

 

well asish says too!!!!!!!! so either he too is innocent or either

you are smart

[Guest guest]

Dear Biru...

> well asish says too!!!!!!!! so either he too is innocent or either

> you are smart

 

I am anything but innocent. I'm a businessman and no businessman can

be innocent. I'm sure Anu is smart, very smart.

 

Ashish...

[Guest guest]

, "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote:

> Dear Anu...

>

> > SWAMIJI, YOU are so innocent. do you think every anurag goel will

> > be a devotee of gurudev, and have kundalini jaagrana s as a

> > hobby???

>

> Do you have a homepage?

>

 

of course i don't.

life is interesting enough without it. i have not yet done anything to

boast of...

a friend of mine once made a home page for me with all my personal

poems, which were of slighly different nature than kundalini jaagran,

and i threw such a tantrum.....

i had it pulled down, and threatened to go and inform his girl friend

about all his other interests, and comments on her.

ashish, you know we misuse this ISSP list before some comments we

should refrain ourselves

we are supposed to be talking religion....

 

and birendraji you are innocent square.

anu

> Ashish...

[Guest guest]

, "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote:

> Dear Biru...

>

> > well asish says too!!!!!!!! so either he too is innocent or

either

> > you are smart

>

> I am anything but innocent. I'm a businessman and no businessman

can

> be innocent. I'm sure Anu is smart, very smart.

>

ashish,

 

if anything i like 2 nd its doing businesss...

one of my master is great business man though i dont have the aptitude

for that but my master told can be honest and be a good business man

too though it takes time, and basically he will guide me, so i dont

need to bother too much....

[Guest guest]

JAI GURUDEV

Dear Biru...

> one of my master is great business man though i dont have the

> aptitude for that but my master told can be honest and be a good

> business man too though it takes time

 

Come on, I am honest, but every business involves a great deal of

advertising and marketing and, thus, so many lies. Yes, I lie almost

daily and I have no choice.

 

Ashish...