Guest guest Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 hello ppl i was always fascinated by indian tantra mantra etc. ive read little about siddhis like the kal pischachni. and want to learn few... is it possible for me in the u.s. to learn them? if yes then how. i have read that there are two ways of obtaining siddhis one of which is the vamargi. which is the other and what is the difference. hypnotism too fascinated me and wud like to know more abt it. and the last, is there a siddhi by which a person could control his desires in order to get rid of the desire of fame and other materialistic things. i hope someone will be able to enlighten me on all this thanks may god be with u ashu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 My Dear Friend Ashu, Its good to know that you are interested Indian tantra,mantra,yantra as they are all true sciences & our maharishis were the greatest scientists who gave this to world .The difference between the west & the east is that western civilization people look outside for answers but maharishis looked inside for answers & discovered that all god & goddesses,constellations,planets,sun,moon & god is inside.Whole of this galaxy is to be found in us.it is true. With regard to your siddhi of kal pischachni I would say that you should not get attracted to these siddhis as they may not prove to be good in the end for you. You can learn & obtain any siddhi you want provided you fulfill the basic discipline of sadhna & principles of yam & niyam. You can learn basics or get knowledge of these in the literature to be found in our sacred texts & magazines especially the issue of "Mantra tantra yantra vigyan"magazine or some other good one which you can if you like.You will come to know about tantra,mantra,hypnotism etc. But higher techniques,secrets,discipline can only be learned by guru if he finds you competent & sincere. There are siddhis to control some of the bad habits.But your last question seems to little bit odd as usually people get siddhis to get fame & fulfill material desires.But if someone is looking for short cuts to renunciation its difficult for a person who is living intense rajsic & tamsic life style.Why would somebody will leave such a life style where he is getting all sensual pleasures & happiness until & unless there is some strong & sincere motive or yearning for god or who has seen the end result of enjoying the sensual pleasures that is diseases,misery.dejection,unhappiness,depressions,exhaustion,rejection,ruin,disaster,criminal acts etc & got disgusted with it. It is really strange that people suffer so much & still they do not come to their senses but cling to all kinds of false identifications.The whole world is bound by the desire for wealth & sex.People make these the goal of life & come to grief in the end & misery. Sri Rama krishna in parable said "the camel eats thorny leaves & bleeds in its mouth but goes on eating them all the same. Spiritual aspirant should have higher goal & he cannot afford to be lost on worldly entanglements.He therefore begins to think deeply about renunciation & detachment & practice yogaabhyas daily, inculcate simple life style without possessions & does not play one day cricket match with sadhna which shows desire to take quick pill to get rid of desires as if he has suddenly realized or awakened at the end of day that show is half over. What we practice daily will become our habit & nature so practice renunciation & detachment daily with simple life style.So start now. Thanks. Rohit. - eternalstrings Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:42 PM siddhi hello ppl i was always fascinated by indian tantra mantra etc. ive read little about siddhis like the kal pischachni. and want to learn few... is it possible for me in the u.s. to learn them? if yes then how. i have read that there are two ways of obtaining siddhis one of which is the vamargi. which is the other and what is the difference. hypnotism too fascinated me and wud like to know more abt it. and the last, is there a siddhi by which a person could control his desires in order to get rid of the desire of fame and other materialistic things.i hope someone will be able to enlighten me on all thisthanksmay god be with uashu Jay Gurudev Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2002 Report Share Posted May 13, 2002 dear rohit, Thanks a lot for your very informative mail. As far as the kal pischachni siddhi, ive read about an instance where a person got it through the 'vamargi' method. I further read how pathetic his life had become, therefore i too dont want to go the same path. But i have heard(and read a bit) that there are other ways by which one can know the future by other siddhis. My dad once told me that a person who wants siddhis for fame or wealth would first learn the siddhi that tells one about the past so that he can prove to a 'customer' that he can be trusted. And later talk some gibberish about the future. This practice is still practiced by many palmist fortune tellers etc. I am in the u.s. and it is difficult for me to suscribe to any magazines or such. though if you know of a good book ill try to get it. You do seem a learned man. Therefore now i ask you if its possible for you to teach me anything. Do you know any siddhi which is simple yet powerful? Regarding my last question, i know that most people obtain siddhis for fame or wealth, and to be honest my heart sometimes desires the same. That is the reason i want to obtain siddhis without these desires. I have a thirst of knowledge, my prime priority which i must quench. I am young and have a habit to speak out straight so please excuse me if i said anything inappropriate. Thanks again for your lovely mail and your concern to spread this knowledge around ashu --- "S.A." <sunnyan wrote: > My Dear Friend Ashu, > > Its good to know that you are interested Indian > tantra,mantra,yantra as they are all true sciences & > our maharishis were the greatest scientists who gave > this to world .The difference between the west & the > east is that western civilization people look > outside for answers but maharishis looked inside for > answers & discovered that all god & > goddesses,constellations,planets,sun,moon & god is > inside.Whole of this galaxy is to be found in us.it > is true. > > With regard to your siddhi of kal pischachni I would > say that you should not get attracted to these > siddhis as they may not prove to be good in the end > for you. > > You can learn & obtain any siddhi you want provided > you fulfill the basic discipline of sadhna & > principles of yam & niyam. > > You can learn basics or get knowledge of these in > the literature to be found in our sacred texts & > magazines especially the issue of "Mantra tantra > yantra vigyan"magazine or some other good one which > you can if you like.You will come to know > about tantra,mantra,hypnotism etc. > > But higher techniques,secrets,discipline can only be > learned by guru if he finds you competent & sincere. > > There are siddhis to control some of the bad > habits.But your last question seems to little bit > odd as usually people get siddhis to get fame & > fulfill material desires.But if someone is looking > for short cuts to renunciation its difficult for a > person who is living intense rajsic & tamsic life > style.Why would somebody will leave such a life > style where he is getting all sensual pleasures & > happiness until & unless there is some strong & > sincere motive or yearning for god or who has seen > the end result of enjoying the sensual pleasures > that is > diseases,misery.dejection,unhappiness,depressions,exhaustion,rejection,ruin,disa\ ster,criminal > acts etc & got disgusted with it. > > It is really strange that people suffer so much & > still they do not come to their senses but cling to > all kinds of false identifications.The whole world > is bound by the desire for wealth & sex.People make > these the goal of life & come to grief in the end & > misery. > > Sri Rama krishna in parable said "the camel eats > thorny leaves & bleeds in its mouth but goes on > eating them all the same. > > Spiritual aspirant should have higher goal & he > cannot afford to be lost on worldly entanglements.He > therefore begins to think deeply about renunciation > & detachment & practice yogaabhyas daily, inculcate > simple life style without possessions & does not > play one day cricket match with sadhna which shows > desire to take quick pill to get rid of desires as > if he has suddenly realized or awakened at the end > of day that show is half over. > > What we practice daily will become our habit & > nature so practice renunciation & detachment daily > with simple life style.So start now. > > > Thanks. > > Rohit. > - > eternalstrings > > Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:42 PM > siddhi > > > hello ppl > i was always fascinated by indian tantra mantra > etc. ive read little about > siddhis like the kal pischachni. and want to learn > few... is it possible for > me in the u.s. to learn them? if yes then how. > i have read that there are two ways of obtaining > siddhis one of which is > the vamargi. which is the other and what is the > difference. hypnotism > too fascinated me and wud like to know more abt > it. > and the last, is there a siddhi by which a person > could control his desires > in order to get rid of the desire of fame and > other materialistic things. > > i hope someone will be able to enlighten me on all > this > thanks > may god be with u > ashu > > > Sponsor > > > Height: 4567 ft 01234567891011 > in > Weight: > Sex: F M Jay Gurudev > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > LAUNCH - Your Music Experience http://launch. 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Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Share Posted May 16, 2002 To my dear friend Ashu, - ashu Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:33 AM Re: siddhi dear rohit,Thanks a lot for your very informative mail. As far as the kal pischachni siddhi, ive read about aninstance where a person got it through the 'vamargi'method. I further read how pathetic his life hadbecome, therefore i too dont want to go the same path.But i have heard(and read a bit) that there are otherways by which one can know the future by othersiddhis.My dad once told me that a person who wants siddhisfor fame or wealth would first learn the siddhi thattells one about the past so that he can prove to a'customer' that he can be trusted. And later talk somegibberish about the future. This practice is stillpracticed by many palmist fortune tellers etc.I am in the u.s. and it is difficult for me tosuscribe to any magazines or such. though if you knowof a good book ill try to get it. You can visit site siddhashram.org to get more knowledge about siddhis & various sadhnas,books. You can also to magazine by contacting mtyv21 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com which will give you much of knowledge about ancient sciences & its practice.They have the facility to send the magazine to rs abroad also probably which you can enquire. You do seem alearned man. Therefore now i ask you if its possiblefor you to teach me anything. I am not a guru or a teacher but a spiritual aspirant like you & try to contribute to everybody's knowledge which i have gained either through direct inference, sacred literature,experience or guru. Do you know any siddhiwhich is simple yet powerful? There are many siddhis which can be obtained with practice either through mantra sadhna & yoga which can be found out by a competent guru or probably by good astrologer to which practice you are suitable or with god's grace if you are sincere. Regarding my last question, i know that most peopleobtain siddhis for fame or wealth, and to be honest myheart sometimes desires the same. That is the reason iwant to obtain siddhis without these desires. I have athirst of knowledge, my prime priority which i mustquench. That's a good sign that you have thirst for knowledge.So don,t wait for anybody & start your journey yourself & try to get basic knowledge about these sciences. Read Swami vivekanand books, Books of Raj yog, Books on hath yoga, good translation of gita, "Mantra rahasaya" & other books by Dr.Narayandutt shrimali, Read "patanjali yoga sutra", Atharva veda etc. One way to obtain asth siddhies is to follow Yam & Niyam firmly which shall also help you in any sadhna, develop you spiritually, will give you knowledge that is for sure. stopping your desires shall make your intelligence shine. but it takes time to get established in these. You must have firm resolve. I am young and have a habit to speak out straight soplease excuse me if i said anything inappropriate. Its good that you want to start young when energy levels are high & enthusiasm good. I would appreciate if you talk straight & frankly about truth. Thanks again for your lovely mail and your concern tospread this knowledge aroundThanks. Rohit. Quotes:-"As a flower beautiful and brilliant of hue, but without fragrance, even so fruitless is the well-spoken word of one who does not practise it." ashu--- "S.A." <sunnyan (AT) now-india (DOT) net.in> wrote:> My Dear Friend Ashu,> > Its good to know that you are interested Indian> tantra,mantra,yantra as they are all true sciences &> our maharishis were the greatest scientists who gave> this to world .The difference between the west & the> east is that western civilization people look> outside for answers but maharishis looked inside for> answers & discovered that all god &> goddesses,constellations,planets,sun,moon & god is> inside.Whole of this galaxy is to be found in us.it> is true.> > With regard to your siddhi of kal pischachni I would> say that you should not get attracted to these> siddhis as they may not prove to be good in the end> for you.> > You can learn & obtain any siddhi you want provided> you fulfill the basic discipline of sadhna &> principles of yam & niyam.> > You can learn basics or get knowledge of these in> the literature to be found in our sacred texts &> magazines especially the issue of "Mantra tantra> yantra vigyan"magazine or some other good one which> you can if you like.You will come to know> about tantra,mantra,hypnotism etc.> > But higher techniques,secrets,discipline can only be> learned by guru if he finds you competent & sincere.> > There are siddhis to control some of the bad> habits.But your last question seems to little bit> odd as usually people get siddhis to get fame &> fulfill material desires.But if someone is looking> for short cuts to renunciation its difficult for a> person who is living intense rajsic & tamsic life> style.Why would somebody will leave such a life> style where he is getting all sensual pleasures &> happiness until & unless there is some strong &> sincere motive or yearning for god or who has seen> the end result of enjoying the sensual pleasures> that is>diseases,misery.dejection,unhappiness,depressions,exhaustion,rejection,ruin,disaster,criminal> acts etc & got disgusted with it.> > It is really strange that people suffer so much &> still they do not come to their senses but cling to> all kinds of false identifications.The whole world> is bound by the desire for wealth & sex.People make> these the goal of life & come to grief in the end &> misery.> > Sri Rama krishna in parable said "the camel eats> thorny leaves & bleeds in its mouth but goes on> eating them all the same.> > Spiritual aspirant should have higher goal & he> cannot afford to be lost on worldly entanglements.He> therefore begins to think deeply about renunciation> & detachment & practice yogaabhyas daily, inculcate> simple life style without possessions & does not> play one day cricket match with sadhna which shows> desire to take quick pill to get rid of desires as> if he has suddenly realized or awakened at the end> of day that show is half over.> > What we practice daily will become our habit &> nature so practice renunciation & detachment daily> with simple life style.So start now.> > > Thanks.> > Rohit.> - > eternalstrings > > Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:42 PM> siddhi> > > hello ppl > i was always fascinated by indian tantra mantra> etc. ive read little about > siddhis like the kal pischachni. and want to learn> few... is it possible for > me in the u.s. to learn them? if yes then how. > i have read that there are two ways of obtaining> siddhis one of which is > the vamargi. which is the other and what is the> difference. hypnotism > too fascinated me and wud like to know more abt> it. > and the last, is there a siddhi by which a person> could control his desires > in order to get rid of the desire of fame and> other materialistic things.> > i hope someone will be able to enlighten me on all> this> thanks> may god be with u> ashu > > > Sponsor > > > Height: 4567 ft 01234567891011> in > Weight: > Sex: F M > > > > > > > Jay Gurudev> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service. > > LAUNCH - Your Music Experiencehttp://launch. 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