Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 im extremely sorry for causing any anguish or alike in the members of this group. i had read a lot about sadhnas tantra mantra and about gurudev. and when my knowledge was hindered by an acoount of money i was troubled. I meant no offence towards Guruji or the organization and know that i dont have to prove this because he knows. dear anupam, as far as the learning attitude, tell me, i am trying my best to seek knowledge. But now i have a problem. I have to pay 170 dollars.. (as some people probably more experienced in the forum told me). That is way beyond my capacity. i am a student and if i had that much money i would have gladly given it. Money is insignificant in front of education, i am aware of this. But this insignificant thing has put hindrances..that is what i meant when i said this is pathetic. now when i looked for other ways around it, i mean cheaper ways few people like you wrote stuff like that guruji can grant dikshas in dreams too. The rest plainly insulted me and others joined them, " he will start putting > all these rough charges & accusations and start loose talk..to read such rubbishwholescale condemnation of > this slur." .. Yes I am young and as i said before i speak from the heart. Maybey sometimes it isnt apt. But i respect guruji. If only people like you come forward and explain things like you did, with love, i think it would have been better. You are right when you said that i can get diksha through devotion and i will now opt this method. i do hope that i do not go astray. I giveup this group. Because i know that in my search for answers i have hurt more people. thanks once again anupam rohit birendra and all the others. hope god will always be with you : ) ashu , "Goel, Anurag (CORP, GEITC)" <anurag.goel@g...> wrote: > > Ashu please refrain from saying things unless you know about it in all. > Right attitude and right thinking is what matters in every aspect of life > whether it > be for materialism or spiritualism. > > to learn one has to have a learning attitude. > > > > >eternalstrings [eternalstrings] > >Friday, May 17, 2002 9:14 AM > > > > Re: a guru and diksha > > > > > > > >170 bucks??? wow i always thought that this was a non profit > >organization. i know nothin is free nowadays but..If this is > >true then its > >very pathetic i must say. > > > > > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE > ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. > If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, > you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this > communication is strictly Prohibited. > If you have received this message by error, please notify us > immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the > message from your system." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 noone wants you to leave. You r true at your heart stay, learn and contribute. Disciples love their spiritual teacher a lot. If anybody points finger at him they can't tolerate. Hope u understand how will you feel if someone says worng things about your loved one. I used to avoid drinking tea for i can save money for dikshaa when i was in college. Sacrificing such things did teach me lot of things. Also when someone is not able to arrrange for full amount. One can get just dikshaa anf not the subscription of magazine. I guess one major component in 170 dollars is for subscription. You can state your problem in being uncapable to arrange for the full amount and gurudham people will help you out. > >eternalstrings [eternalstrings] >Sunday, May 19, 2002 7:24 PM > > sincere apologies > > >im extremely sorry for causing any anguish or alike in the members of >this group. i had read a lot about sadhnas tantra mantra and about >gurudev. and when my knowledge was hindered by an acoount of >money i was troubled. I meant no offence towards Guruji or the >organization and know that i dont have to prove this because he knows. > >dear anupam, as far as the learning attitude, tell me, i am trying my >best to seek knowledge. But now i have a problem. I have to pay 170 >dollars.. (as some people probably more experienced in the forum told >me). That is way beyond my capacity. i am a student and if i had that >much money i would have gladly given it. Money is >insignificant in front >of education, i am aware of this. But this insignificant thing has put >hindrances..that is what i meant when i said this is pathetic. > >now when i looked for other ways around it, i mean cheaper ways few >people like you wrote stuff like that guruji can grant dikshas >in dreams >too. The rest plainly insulted me and others joined them, " >he will start >putting >> all these rough charges & accusations and start loose >talk..to read >such rubbishwholescale condemnation of >> this slur." .. Yes I am young and as i said before i speak from the >heart. Maybey sometimes it isnt apt. But i respect guruji. If >only people >like you come forward and explain things like you did, with >love, i think >it would have been better. > >You are right when you said that i can get diksha through >devotion and i >will now opt this method. i do hope that i do not go astray. I >giveup this >group. Because i know that in my search for answers i have hurt more >people. > >thanks once again anupam rohit birendra and all the others. >hope god will always be with you : ) > >ashu > > >, "Goel, Anurag (CORP, GEITC)" <anurag.goel@g...> >wrote: >> >> Ashu please refrain from saying things unless you know about >it in all. >> Right attitude and right thinking is what matters in every >aspect of life >> whether it >> be for materialism or spiritualism. >> >> to learn one has to have a learning attitude. >> >> > >> >eternalstrings [eternalstrings] >> >Friday, May 17, 2002 9:14 AM >> > >> > Re: a guru and diksha >> > >> > >> > >> >170 bucks??? wow i always thought that this was a non profit >> >organization. i know nothin is free nowadays but..If this is >> >true then its >> >very pathetic i must say. >> > >> >> >> "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS >INTENDED ONLY FOR THE >> ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. >> If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, >> you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or >copy of this >> communication is strictly Prohibited. >> If you have received this message by error, please notify us >> immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the >> message from your system." > > >------------------------ Sponsor >---------------------~--> >Take the survey for a chance to win $1,000. >Your opinion is very important to us! >http://us.click./NOFBfD/uAJEAA/Ey.GAA/wpWolB/TM >------------------------------ >------~-> > >Jay Gurudev > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 hello anurag.. thx for ure mail... i just wanted to let u know that i did not point a finger at anyone.. if u read my posts carefully then u will realise . its pretty odd that here people lashed out at me and everyone else supported them. This is pretty surprising. i thought that this group was more of love and understanding...but not of blind faith. yes i did say that the money asked is way too much and i still believe it. but this according to my capacity.A question of hundred of rupees is understandable but of 8500, is surprising, though i cant say if it is right or wrong because i know nothing about the way it is handled but i do believe that it would not go in waste because this organization is headed by someone whom i dearly respect. i work full time and study so that i can take out my personal expenses.. i work around 12 hours at night and then go to the university to make my ends meet. i have tried contacting gurudham several times by mail but have not got any reply. most of my questions remained unanswered thouh the money thing sparked a lot of interest in the group members. if someone points such a finger at my dear or loved person where money is concerned i would not lash out at them. that is not what ive been taught. knowledge and love..these have been my only guiding spirits. you are a niceson..i am young and do not know the ways of the world..maybe someday ill rejoin the group. thanks a lot. --- "Goel, Anurag (CORP, GEITC)" <anurag.goel wrote: > > noone wants you to leave. You r true at your heart > stay, learn and > contribute. > > Disciples love their spiritual teacher a lot. If > anybody points finger at > him they can't tolerate. Hope u understand how will > you feel if someone says > worng things about your loved one. > > I used to avoid drinking tea for i can save money > for dikshaa when i was in > college. Sacrificing such things did teach me lot of > things. > > Also when someone is not able to arrrange for full > amount. One can get just > dikshaa anf not the subscription of magazine. I > guess one major component in > 170 dollars is for subscription. You can state your > problem in being > uncapable to arrange for the full amount and > gurudham people will help you > out. > > > > >eternalstrings > [eternalstrings] > >Sunday, May 19, 2002 7:24 PM > > > > sincere apologies > > > > > >im extremely sorry for causing any anguish or alike > in the members of > >this group. i had read a lot about sadhnas tantra > mantra and about > >gurudev. and when my knowledge was hindered by an > acoount of > >money i was troubled. I meant no offence towards > Guruji or the > >organization and know that i dont have to prove > this because he knows. > > > >dear anupam, as far as the learning attitude, tell > me, i am trying my > >best to seek knowledge. But now i have a problem. I > have to pay 170 > >dollars.. (as some people probably more experienced > in the forum told > >me). That is way beyond my capacity. i am a student > and if i had that > >much money i would have gladly given it. Money is > >insignificant in front > >of education, i am aware of this. But this > insignificant thing has put > >hindrances..that is what i meant when i said this > is pathetic. > > > >now when i looked for other ways around it, i mean > cheaper ways few > >people like you wrote stuff like that guruji can > grant dikshas > >in dreams > >too. The rest plainly insulted me and others joined > them, " > >he will start > >putting > >> all these rough charges & accusations and start > loose > >talk..to read > >such rubbishwholescale condemnation of > >> this slur." .. Yes I am young and as i said > before i speak from the > >heart. Maybey sometimes it isnt apt. But i respect > guruji. If > >only people > >like you come forward and explain things like you > did, with > >love, i think > >it would have been better. > > > >You are right when you said that i can get diksha > through > >devotion and i > >will now opt this method. i do hope that i do not > go astray. I > >giveup this > >group. Because i know that in my search for answers > i have hurt more > >people. > > > >thanks once again anupam rohit birendra and all the > others. > >hope god will always be with you : ) > > > >ashu > > > > > >, "Goel, Anurag (CORP, GEITC)" > <anurag.goel@g...> > >wrote: > >> > >> Ashu please refrain from saying things unless you > know about > >it in all. > >> Right attitude and right thinking is what matters > in every > >aspect of life > >> whether it > >> be for materialism or spiritualism. > >> > >> to learn one has to have a learning attitude. > >> > >> > > >> >eternalstrings > [eternalstrings] > >> >Friday, May 17, 2002 9:14 AM > >> > > >> > Re: a guru and diksha > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >170 bucks??? wow i always thought that this was > a non profit > >> >organization. i know nothin is free nowadays > but..If this is > >> >true then its > >> >very pathetic i must say. > >> > > >> > >> > >> "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS > IS > >INTENDED ONLY FOR THE > >> ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and > privileged information. > >> If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, > >> you are notified that any dissemination, > distribution or > >copy of this > >> communication is strictly Prohibited. > >> If you have received this message by error, > please notify us > >> immediately, return the original mail to the > sender and delete the > >> message from your system." > > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > >---------------------~--> > >Take the survey for a chance to win > $1,000. > >Your opinion is very important to us! > >http://us.click./NOFBfD/uAJEAA/Ey.GAA/wpWolB/TM > >------------------------------ > >------~-> > > > >Jay Gurudev > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS > INTENDED ONLY FOR THE > ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and > privileged information. > If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, > you are notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copy of this > communication is strictly Prohibited. > If you have received this message by error, please > notify us > immediately, return the original mail to the sender > and delete the > message from your system." > > LAUNCH - Your Music Experience http://launch. 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 if you are worried abt the money let me say that you can't get dikshaa from an able Guru even if u r ready to spend crores of ruppees. time and again we are faced with this query on money. hope you are not finding the faults with the members of the group for someone has said that if you do everything right more than half the things won't go wrong. Members of the group and you both have something to learn from this incident. Had u used right words this would have never happened. Language is a great power. Its help in you connecting with people. it can be of great help to a person if he/she knwos when to use, how and which words. > >ashu [eternalstrings] >Tuesday, May 21, 2002 3:34 PM > >RE: sincere apologies > >most of my questions remained unanswered thouh the >money thing sparked a lot of interest in the group >members. > >if someone points such a finger at my dear or loved >person where money is concerned i would not lash out >at them. that is not what ive been taught. knowledge >and love..these have been my only guiding spirits. >you are a niceson..i am young and do not know the ways >of the world..maybe someday ill rejoin the group. >thanks a lot. > >--- "Goel, Anurag (CORP, GEITC)" ><anurag.goel wrote: >> >> noone wants you to leave. You r true at your heart >> stay, learn and >> contribute. >> >> Disciples love their spiritual teacher a lot. If >> anybody points finger at >> him they can't tolerate. Hope u understand how will >> you feel if someone says >> worng things about your loved one. >> >> I used to avoid drinking tea for i can save money >> for dikshaa when i was in >> college. Sacrificing such things did teach me lot of >> things. >> >> Also when someone is not able to arrrange for full >> amount. One can get just >> dikshaa anf not the subscription of magazine. I >> guess one major component in >> 170 dollars is for subscription. You can state your >> problem in being >> uncapable to arrange for the full amount and >> gurudham people will help you >> out. >> >> > >> >eternalstrings >> [eternalstrings] >> >Sunday, May 19, 2002 7:24 PM >> > >> > sincere apologies >> > >> > >> >im extremely sorry for causing any anguish or alike >> in the members of >> >this group. i had read a lot about sadhnas tantra >> mantra and about >> >gurudev. and when my knowledge was hindered by an >> acoount of >> >money i was troubled. I meant no offence towards >> Guruji or the >> >organization and know that i dont have to prove >> this because he knows. >> > >> >dear anupam, as far as the learning attitude, tell >> me, i am trying my >> >best to seek knowledge. But now i have a problem. I >> have to pay 170 >> >dollars.. (as some people probably more experienced >> in the forum told >> >me). That is way beyond my capacity. i am a student >> and if i had that >> >much money i would have gladly given it. Money is >> >insignificant in front >> >of education, i am aware of this. But this >> insignificant thing has put >> >hindrances..that is what i meant when i said this >> is pathetic. >> > >> >now when i looked for other ways around it, i mean >> cheaper ways few >> >people like you wrote stuff like that guruji can >> grant dikshas >> >in dreams >> >too. The rest plainly insulted me and others joined >> them, " >> >he will start >> >putting >> >> all these rough charges & accusations and start >> loose >> >talk..to read >> >such rubbishwholescale condemnation of >> >> this slur." .. Yes I am young and as i said >> before i speak from the >> >heart. Maybey sometimes it isnt apt. But i respect >> guruji. If >> >only people >> >like you come forward and explain things like you >> did, with >> >love, i think >> >it would have been better. >> > >> >You are right when you said that i can get diksha >> through >> >devotion and i >> >will now opt this method. i do hope that i do not >> go astray. I >> >giveup this >> >group. Because i know that in my search for answers >> i have hurt more >> >people. >> > >> >thanks once again anupam rohit birendra and all the >> others. >> >hope god will always be with you : ) >> > >> >ashu >> > >> > >> >, "Goel, Anurag (CORP, GEITC)" >> <anurag.goel@g...> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> Ashu please refrain from saying things unless you >> know about >> >it in all. >> >> Right attitude and right thinking is what matters >> in every >> >aspect of life >> >> whether it >> >> be for materialism or spiritualism. >> >> >> >> to learn one has to have a learning attitude. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >eternalstrings >> [eternalstrings] >> >> >Friday, May 17, 2002 9:14 AM >> >> > >> >> > Re: a guru and diksha >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >170 bucks??? wow i always thought that this was >> a non profit >> >> >organization. i know nothin is free nowadays >> but..If this is >> >> >true then its >> >> >very pathetic i must say. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS >> IS >> >INTENDED ONLY FOR THE >> >> ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and >> privileged information. >> >> If the reader of this message is not the intended >> recipient, >> >> you are notified that any dissemination, >> distribution or >> >copy of this >> >> communication is strictly Prohibited. >> >> If you have received this message by error, >> please notify us >> >> immediately, return the original mail to the >> sender and delete the >> >> message from your system." >> > >> > >> >------------------------ Sponsor >> >---------------------~--> >> >Take the survey for a chance to win >> $1,000. >> >Your opinion is very important to us! >> >>http://us.click./NOFBfD/uAJEAA/Ey.GAA/wpWolB/TM >> >>------------------------------ >> >------~-> >> > >> >Jay Gurudev >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Your use of is subject to >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS >> INTENDED ONLY FOR THE >> ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and >> privileged information. >> If the reader of this message is not the intended >> recipient, >> you are notified that any dissemination, >> distribution or copy of this >> communication is strictly Prohibited. >> If you have received this message by error, please >> notify us >> immediately, return the original mail to the sender >> and delete the >> message from your system." >> >> > > > > >LAUNCH - Your Music Experience >http://launch. > >------------------------ Sponsor >---------------------~--> >Buy Stock for $4 >and no minimums. >FREE Money 2002. >http://us.click./orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/wpWolB/TM >------------------------------ >------~-> > >Jay Gurudev > > > > > >Your use of is subject to "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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