Please Advise

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I have recently joined this group. However I have been visting this

group for quite some time. I dont know but I think may be Ashish will

be the right person to address this qyuery to.

 

How do you maintain your devotion and faith when everything is going

wrong even after all your prayers - jaap - sadhnas and no

experiences??

 

I had also sent a mail to gurudhaam on May 10th but no reply till

date.

 

I will appreciate any help

 

Thanks

s

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hi s

r u doing this with full faith and devotion. r u true in ur

motives. Ask these questions to urself and see if u r doing it. It is said

that even a single chanting of mantra doesn't go waste. Your past life

karmaas might be getting nullified.

 

Whenever i recite mantra in haste or with less devotion i don't get

experiences. And whenever i have done that with all love and faith i have

been always blessed with an experience. Even simple prayers work.

 

i have done some laghu sadhans even without sadhana articles and have got

experiences for

them too. If love, faith, will, patience and trueness is there things will

happen such has been my experience.

 

Anurag

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>s_dipity [s_dipity]

>Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:31 PM

>

> Please Advise

>

>

>I have recently joined this group. However I have been visting this

>group for quite some time. I dont know but I think may be Ashish will

>be the right person to address this qyuery to.

>

>How do you maintain your devotion and faith when everything is going

>wrong even after all your prayers - jaap - sadhnas and no

>experiences??

>

>I had also sent a mail to gurudhaam on May 10th but no reply till

>date.

>

>I will appreciate any help

>

>Thanks

>s

>

 

 

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JAI GURUDEV

Hi...

> How do you maintain your devotion and faith when everything is

> going wrong even after all your prayers - jaap - sadhnas and no

> experiences??

 

Frankly speaking, you can't have real faith and devotion unless you

see things in action. If you are having problem maintaining it, it's

not faith and it's not devotion. Faith and devotion can not be

created, they just happen like love. I suggest, don't worry about

them, they'll just happen when the right time comes.

 

About experiences, they don't always look the way you want them to

be. A baby can't be delivered instantly after conception. It's a

natural process and takes time; sometimes less, sometimes more. The

same goes for sadhanas. Moreover, there are other factors too like

concentration, method, style, attitude, your goals etc. Don't jump to

bigger sadhanas. Start with easier ones. If you are having

concentration problems, try meditation or beej mantras or even both.

If you are a negative thinker, you'll need to work harder to get any

results. Remember, success or failure simply reflect the state of

your mind. Positive thoughts help you progress better while negatives

take away whatever you have earned. If you have a huge goal, divide

it into multiple small ones and concentrate on each fragment one at a

time, in an orderly manner. Sadhana is to brain what bodybuilding is

to body. To see any positive result, you must be very disciplined,

punctual and active. Nothing would happen in a blink of an eye.

 

About things going wrong. On April 22, 1997 in Bhopal, I had asked

similar question to Shrivastavji. He replied, "Maybe, the time for

your success hasn't come. Why don't you prepare yourself for that

time so that you can take most from it whenever it comes instead of

worrying and loosing your energy?" That was true and that's the

beauty of life. There won't be success unless there is failure. There

won't be right unless there is wrong. I am an adventure loving

person. I, too, have a lot of problems; but, I see them as a chance

to prove my strength and flax my muscles.

 

Have faith in yourself, accept the challenge and never give up. You

will be successful. I wish you luck...

 

Ashish...

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Dear Friends

It is true that i have also not received any response from gurudham inspite of

many reminders & it has been more than a month.There seems to be some problem

with the people who are handling the queries.

Thanks.

Rohit.

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s_dipity

Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:30 PM

Please Advise

I have recently joined this group. However I have been visting this group for

quite some time. I dont know but I think may be Ashish will be the right person

to address this qyuery to.How do you maintain your devotion and faith when

everything is going wrong even after all your prayers - jaap - sadhnas and no

experiences??I had also sent a mail to gurudhaam on May 10th but no reply till

date.I will appreciate any helpThankssJay GurudevYour use of is

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To my Dear spiritual companions,

It is also important that on should strictly follow the principles of Yam &

Niyam to get success & keep the sadhna secret till one completes it.

Thanks.

Rohit.

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Goel, Anurag (CORP, GEITC)

Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:38 PM

RE: Please Advise

hi s r u doing this with full faith and devotion. r u true in urmotives.

Ask these questions to urself and see if u r doing it. It is saidthat even a

single chanting of mantra doesn't go waste. Your past lifekarmaas might be

getting nullified.Whenever i recite mantra in haste or with less devotion i

don't getexperiences. And whenever i have done that with all love and faith i

havebeen always blessed with an experience. Even simple prayers work. i have

done some laghu sadhans even without sadhana articles and have gotexperiences

for them too. If love, faith, will, patience and trueness is there things

willhappen such has been my experience.Anurag>>

s_dipity [s_dipity ]>Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:31 PM>To:

> Please Advise>>>I have recently

joined this group. However I have been visting this >group for quite some time.

I dont know but I think may be Ashish will >be the right person to address this

qyuery to.>>How do you maintain your devotion and faith when everything is

going >wrong even after all your prayers - jaap - sadhnas and no

>experiences??>>I had also sent a mail to gurudhaam on May 10th but no reply

till >date.>>I will appreciate any help>>Thanks>s>"THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG

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whenever major shvir is around these people get very busy. might be due that as

Guru Poornima was around.

S.A. [sunnyan (AT) now-india (DOT) net.in]Sent:

Friday, May 31, 2002 6:17 AMSubject: Re:

Please Advise

Dear Friends

It is true that i have also not received any response from gurudham inspite of

many reminders & it has been more than a month.There seems to be some problem

with the people who are handling the queries.

Thanks.

Rohit.

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s_dipity

Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:30 PM

Please Advise

I have recently joined this group. However I have been visting this group for

quite some time. I dont know but I think may be Ashish will be the right person

to address this qyuery to.How do you maintain your devotion and faith when

everything is going wrong even after all your prayers - jaap - sadhnas and no

experiences??I had also sent a mail to gurudhaam on May 10th but no reply till

date.I will appreciate any helpThankssJay GurudevYour use of is

subject to the Jay GurudevYour use of is

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nice comments ashish. once a disciple asked guruji "will i get success in

1-2 daysafter taking dikshaa". Guruji replied saying even a child needs 9

months to be able to live in this world. There is a maturity time for every

event in this universe. Success in sadhana also depends on at what stage of

spirituality one is.

 

Ashish is also very right in saying that there can be no real faith unless

one has seen things in real. in one of the magazines gurudev said to a group

his disciples one can never be sure that god exists unless one has seen him

for real. real faith comes only after one has known who he really is.

 

If one is not able to solve a problem then it doesn't mean that problem in

its itself is wrong. one has to reach a certain level of understanding to be

able to solve it.

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>nikhilashish [nikhilashish]

>Friday, May 31, 2002 12:14 AM

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> Re: Please Advise

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>JAI GURUDEV

>Hi...

>

>> How do you maintain your devotion and faith when everything is

>> going wrong even after all your prayers - jaap - sadhnas and no

>> experiences??

>

>Frankly speaking, you can't have real faith and devotion unless you

>see things in action. If you are having problem maintaining it, it's

>not faith and it's not devotion. Faith and devotion can not be

>created, they just happen like love. I suggest, don't worry about

>them, they'll just happen when the right time comes.

>

 

 

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Jai Gurudev!

Hello to everyone. I to am having the same problem. Around March 12,

I sent an e-mail explaining my problems, and asking for guidance. I

got a prompt reply in two weeks, saying that Gurudev would look at my

mail, and respond by letter. However, I am still waiting for the

letter. I also think there is a serious problem with the handling of

the queries. Who knows, there might be many people sending in letters

about their troubles. Murugesh.

 

 

 

 

 

, "S.A." <sunnyan@n...> wrote:

> Dear Friends

>

> It is true that i have also not received any response from gurudham

inspite of many reminders & it has been more than a month.There seems

to be some problem with the people who are handling the queries.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Rohit.

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> s_dipity

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> Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:30 PM

> Please Advise

>

>

> I have recently joined this group. However I have been visting

this

> group for quite some time. I dont know but I think may be Ashish

will

> be the right person to address this qyuery to.

>

> How do you maintain your devotion and faith when everything is

going

> wrong even after all your prayers - jaap - sadhnas and no

> experiences??

>

> I had also sent a mail to gurudhaam on May 10th but no reply till

> date.

>

> I will appreciate any help

>

> Thanks

> s

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registered letter usually comes within 2-3 weeks such has been my

experience. I guess there are lot of queries and on that Gurudev will have

to go for shivirs and meet disciples and other works for the organisation.

if Gurudev is answerinf all queries (of course gurudev dictates them the

solution and they type the letter and send it our way.) i guess amidst all

this, delay should seem reasonable. I used to get perturbed when i used to

get a reply some 2-3 weeks later and letter within another 2-4 weeks.

 

I heard Gurudev (Dr. Narayana Dutt Shrimali) used to sleep for only couple

of hours.

 

credit or debit card for payment will be good solution to make the cycle

short for getting sadhana related articles, books and dikshaas.

 

 

Anurag

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>souljas_1 [souljas_1]

>Friday, May 31, 2002 10:44 PM

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> Re: Please Advise

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>Jai Gurudev!

>Hello to everyone. I to am having the same problem. Around March 12,

>I sent an e-mail explaining my problems, and asking for guidance. I

>got a prompt reply in two weeks, saying that Gurudev would look at my

>mail, and respond by letter. However, I am still waiting for the

>letter. I also think there is a serious problem with the handling of

>the queries. Who knows, there might be many people sending in letters

>about their troubles. Murugesh.

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>> Dear Friends

>>

>> It is true that i have also not received any response from gurudham

>inspite of many reminders & it has been more than a month.There seems

>to be some problem with the people who are handling the queries.

>>

>> Thanks.

>>

>> Rohit.

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>> s_dipity

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>> Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:30 PM

>> Please Advise

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>> I have recently joined this group. However I have been visting

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>> group for quite some time. I dont know but I think may be Ashish

>will

>> be the right person to address this qyuery to.

>>

>> How do you maintain your devotion and faith when everything is

>going

>> wrong even after all your prayers - jaap - sadhnas and no

>> experiences??

>>

>> I had also sent a mail to gurudhaam on May 10th but no reply till

>> date.

>>

>> I will appreciate any help

>>

>> Thanks

>> s

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