Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 JAI GURUDEV An able Guru, who himself has successfully completed the highest level of all Mahavidya sadhanas, is a must for a sadhak before even thinking about the Mahavidyas. Remember, Mahavidya Sadhanas are NOT for everyone and they are NOT just another set of sadhanas. They take a sadhak beyond the limits by means of unexpected, punishing, tough and dangerous tests. Moreover, these are sadhanas of extremly high intensity and usually increase a sadhak's energy level suddenly and unreasonably. Only blessings of an able Guru can help a sadhak survive this kind of massive blow which, without an able Guru, results in immediate death of that sadhak. Therefore, if you are serious about Mahavidya Sadhanas, you MUST take Guru Diksha and MUST perform, at least, one punashcharan of Guru Mantra (reciting 1,25,000 times or 1250 rounds) in 11 days. Yes, you read it correctly, IN 11 DAYS. This will prepare you, both physically and mentally, for the Mahavidya Sadhana which usually requires you to chant 101 rounds of a BIG mantra in a single sitting for 13 nights (or day) maintaining your concentration all the time. As I said earlier, Mahavidyas are NOT for everyone. Only an experienced sadhak capable of taking big challenges and handling extremely painful situations deserves to perform them. Well folks, I know, you are waiting for the mantras. But, as you already know, they are not toys, they are mantras of the most powerful sadhanas in the universe. So, please be patient. More later... Ashish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 > This will prepare > you, both physically > and mentally, for the Mahavidya Sadhana which > usually requires you to > chant 101 rounds of a BIG mantra in a single sitting > for 13 nights > (or day) maintaining your concentration all the > time. I completely agree with what you are saying , Ashish. But I do not understand that when the Mahavidya Sadhnas are so difficult to perform why do we have such simple Mahavidya Sadhnas procedures on our web site http://www.siddhashram.org. For instance this is the URL for Mahavidya Baglamukhi sadhna http://www.siddhashram.org/s19981155c.shtml. The procedure detailed here is very simple as compared to what you are saying. There are no pre-requisites as mentioned by you. And please do not misunderstand me Ashish. I know what you said is absolutely correct. My only point is that if somebody performs these Sadhnas as per the procedure on the web site, I dont think he will be able to have the success that he will be anticipating for. When we know that Mahavidya Sadhnas are difficult why dont we say it on our web site http://www.siddhashram.org and MTYV magazine. instead of detailing simplified procedures which will ultimately lead to frustration of the Sadhak. - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 Hi S, > And please do not misunderstand me > Ashish. I know what you said is absolutely correct. My > only point is that if somebody performs these Sadhnas > as per the procedure on the web site, I dont think he > will be able to have the success that he will be > anticipating for. When we know that Mahavidya Sadhnas > are difficult why dont we say it on our web site > http://www.siddhashram.org and MTYV magazine. instead > of detailing simplified procedures which will > ultimately lead to frustration of the Sadhak. > if i were to perform sadhanas , i would defenitely not go by website procedures or rely entirely on it, as to me sadhana is a serious thing,and i would do lot of due diligence and talk to people who have done similar sadhanas, and find out the finer points of that sadhana, and then attempt it, or i would go to sadgurudev directly and express my interest and would tell him that i am all out for it and want his guidance and grace at every step. what i have learnt is that every sadhana big or small, what ever nature be it, should be attempted with sincerity, and with all out attitude. my answer may not seem releavant to you , but think it with a cool head,it may not be possible to post everything on the website and besides the experience of a sadhak while doing a sadhana may differ from other , one may find a sadhana easy other may find the sadhana difficult, its not possible to judge the level of sadhak who has narrated his experience,unless one has personal accquintance with the person. i personally believe that problem in hand and the sadgurudev besides the ishta devata are the right inspiration to attempt sadhanas. try to take help from sadgurudev, GO WITH ALL OUT ATTITUDE. it may sound easy or impratical, but there is no other way, i have not performed any mantra or tantra sadhanas, but i have done some different type of sadhans which are similar in nature, and in principal no different from mantra and tantra sadhanas. i personally beleive that sadgurdev only has to recommend a sadhana, becos he would weight all things and give the right prescriprtion. all else is hit or miss effort, the bigger the sadhana the bigger the frustration in this hit/miss things, though the chances of success of a sadhana with out Sadgurdev grace atleast in the intial stages is very very difficult. so iam telling you out of my little experinece, if you find any relevance follow it or otherwise ignore this message. pray for sadgurus help and grace and have a persisting attitude. some day you will see the light by guru's grace. Jai Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 JAI GURUDEV > But I do not understand that when the Mahavidya > Sadhnas are so difficult to perform why do we have > such simple Mahavidya Sadhnas procedures on our web > site http://www.siddhashram.org. Did any of the sadhana procedures on Siddhashram.Org ever say that you can attain success in a sadhana, not just Mahavidya sadhana, without a Guru? When you take Guru Diksha, what are Guruji's first orders? I can still hear him saying, "I am ordering you to chant 4 rounds of Guru mantra, 1 round of Gayatri mantra and 1 round of Chetana mantra everyday". If Guruji started ordering every new-comer to chant 1280 rounds of Guru mantra, they'll panic, won't do anything and will either start preaching Bhakti or declare Guruji a fraud. Then, Guruji would take all their bad karmas onto himself and suffer for them. Those sadhaks would leave everything to Guruji and start thinking that sadhana is not necessary at all. It's a matter for Guruji to explain, not me. I wrote what I was taught. Read Shashtriji's book Taantrokta Guru Pujan (or talk to him directly). It says you must recite Guru Mantra 1.25 lakh, 5 lakh or 11 lakh times before jumping to any sadhana as this prepares a sadhak for a sadhana. There are things which are told only when asked. In this case, we are talking Mahavidya Sadhanas. Some of us are so lucky that they get success without much trouble. Some are hard- gainers. I thought, it would be wise to consider the worst scenario. I was considering the classical method of performing a Mahavidya sadhana. If you would be taking Shaktipaat Diksha for a Mahavidya, you may not need to do that much work because then, Guruji would do about 95% of the work for you. > For instance this is the URL for Mahavidya Baglamukhi > sadhna http://www.siddhashram.org/s19981155c.shtml. The > procedure detailed here is very simple as compared to > what you are saying. There are no pre-requisites as > mentioned by you. In the editorial of an old issue of MTYV (I don't remember which one), Nand Kishore Guruji has explained this very well. He wrote, "Most of the sadhanas published are from ancient scripture written centuries ago. At that time, everyone knew what are the pre- requisites for successfully completing a sadhana. If a scripture says that a sadhak can gain success in a give sadhana in 3 days, I will have to publish it as it is. But what you need to understand is that it is meant for a seasoned sadhak not for a newbie". This applies to the sadhanas on Siddhashram.Org too. > When we know that Mahavidya Sadhnas are difficult why > dont we say it on our web site > http://www.siddhashram.org and MTYV magazine. How can I tell? I control neither Siddhashram.Org nor MTYV. I feel, the best way of getting answers to all your sadhana related questions is PERFORMING SADHANA. Chant Guru Mantra 1250 rounds in 11 days or less and you'll have all your answers. Good luck... Ashish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 > if i were to perform sadhanas , i would defenitely > not go by website > procedures or rely entirely on it, I think the web site and the MTYV magazine is a window to our world. As such they must present the maximum details possible. I am sure there are a lot of Sadhaks that take inspiration from them. > as to me sadhana > is a serious > thing,and i would do lot of due diligence and talk > to people who have > done similar sadhanas, and find out the finer points > of that sadhana, > and then attempt it, or i would go to sadgurudev > directly and express > my interest and would tell him that i am all out for > it and want his > guidance and grace at every step. I agree with you but it may not be possible for everyone to do it. > what i have learnt is that every sadhana big or > small, what ever > nature be it, should be attempted with sincerity, > and with all out > attitude. I completely agree. Jai Gurudev - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 JAI GURUDEV > Good I asked. So I know now. That's nice. > In the meantime I am just to gain somethings from > other experiences. It would be great though highly unlikely. > I am sorry if I upset you in anyway. Not at all. Why would I be upset? > we are still waiting for the Mahavidya Sadhnas' Mantras > and details. Patience is a virtue. Good luck... Ashish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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