Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 JAI GURUDEV Well, maantrokta and taantrokta mantras are not different. The difference is in pronounciation only. Let's take a small exmaple. The mahalaxmi beej mantra is maantrokta when pronounced 'shreem' and taantrokta when pronounced 'shreeng'. I have also heard that mantras become more effective when pronounced the taantrokta way. But, I suggest consulting Gurudham on this matter. Ashish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 --- not always true. there are several tantrokt sadhnas with hreem or kreem in them. example aum kleem aim paapaani shamya nashya aum phat i think 97 tantrokt and i have myself felt it's huge power. but asking gurudham and shrivastav uncle is always good jai gurudev - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 ref august 97 aum kleem aim paapani shamya naashya aum phat mahurat any ekadashi a3 day sadhna very powerful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 , "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote: > JAI GURUDEV > > Well, maantrokta and taantrokta mantras are not different. The > difference is in pronounciation only. > > Let's take a small exmaple. The mahalaxmi beej mantra is maantrokta > when pronounced 'shreem' and taantrokta when pronounced 'shreeng'. I > have also heard that mantras become more effective when pronounced > the taantrokta way. But, I suggest consulting Gurudham on this matter. > > Ashish... Hi There, Have you heard of adding vowel sounds usually ''ee'' to a mantra to make it more pulsative to entrain the mind in silent meditation? Example: Shreeng becomes Sheereeng Shreem becomes Sheereem I think it comes from Sri Vidya! Looking foward to your reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 i don't think so. bij mantraas are used as such and the only the difference i have known is shreem to shreeng > >biosoundbill [avrilsmith] >Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:43 PM > > Re: Maantrokta or Taantrokta??? > > >, "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote: >> JAI GURUDEV >> >> Well, maantrokta and taantrokta mantras are not different. The >> difference is in pronounciation only. >> >> Let's take a small exmaple. The mahalaxmi beej mantra is maantrokta >> when pronounced 'shreem' and taantrokta when pronounced 'shreeng'. >I >> have also heard that mantras become more effective when pronounced >> the taantrokta way. But, I suggest consulting Gurudham on this >matter. >> >> Ashish... > >Hi There, > >Have you heard of adding vowel sounds usually ''ee'' to a mantra to >make it more pulsative to entrain the mind in silent meditation? > >Example: Shreeng becomes Sheereeng > Shreem becomes Sheereem > >I think it comes from Sri Vidya! > >Looking foward to your reply > > >------------------------ Sponsor >---------------------~--> >4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now >http://us.click./pt6YBB/NXiEAA/Ey.GAA/wpWolB/TM >------------------------------ >------~-> > >Jay Gurudev > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 On the siddhashram site the Mahalakshmi Mantra is not written although there is a audio. Please provide me with the exact wording if you can. Thanks - Goel, Anurag (CORP, GEITC) Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:51 AM RE: Re: Maantrokta or Taantrokta??? i don't think so. bij mantraas are used as such and the only the differencei have known isshreem to shreeng>>biosoundbill [avrilsmith (AT) dol (DOT) ie]>Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:43 PM>To: > Re: Maantrokta or Taantrokta???>>>, "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote:>> JAI GURUDEV>> >> Well, maantrokta and taantrokta mantras are not different. The >> difference is in pronounciation only.>> >> Let's take a small exmaple. The mahalaxmi beej mantra is maantrokta >> when pronounced 'shreem' and taantrokta when pronounced 'shreeng'. >I >> have also heard that mantras become more effective when pronounced >> the taantrokta way. But, I suggest consulting Gurudham on this >matter.>> >> Ashish...>>Hi There,>>Have you heard of adding vowel sounds usually ''ee'' to a mantra to >make it more pulsative to entrain the mind in silent meditation?>>Example: Shreeng becomes Sheereeng> Shreem becomes Sheereem>>I think it comes from Sri Vidya!>>Looking foward to your reply>>>------------------------ Sponsor >---------------------~-->>4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now>http://us.click./pt6YBB/NXiEAA/Ey.GAA/wpWolB/TM>------------------------------>------~->>>Jay Gurudev>>>> >>Your use of is subject to > >>"THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THEADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information.If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system."Jay GurudevYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 > Have you heard of adding vowel sounds usually ''ee'' to a mantra to > make it more pulsative to entrain the mind in silent meditation? > > Example: Shreeng becomes Sheereeng > Shreem becomes Sheereem > > I think it comes from Sri Vidya! > > Looking foward to your reply Hi from my limited knowledgde and understanding bija mantras are used not to enhance silent meditaiton, but to be able to spit out energy or desired result when pronounced, its not the stuff for silent meditaion, its the other way round in some sense, you will try to use this sound to milk the consiousness which is the cow(this is my understanding). so its creating and manifesting vibrations ,as per me only AUM can only be kind of soft for silent meditations, but others i dont think when sounded softly would produce results, i have heard bade gurudev doing lama sadhanas in shivir (which i beleive has to do lot with bija mantras) there is no way that it can be smooth. others may have their own opinions but to me shreem and shreeng are the same and actually they are not at all diffrent, for example look at this follwoing taken from a site... Deity .......................................Mantra .................. ....Comments on results (Function) (Name) Ganesha (D) ...........Gam(Gang) .................Protection, success Kali (D)... Krim (Kring) ................Protection, liberation, victory Krishna (D).Klim (Kling) .................Love, attraction, bliss Lakshmi (D)....Shrim (Shring) ............Prosperity, wealth, beauty Rama (D) .....Rama, Rama, Rama ....Courage, justice, marriage, love Saraswati (D) ..Aim (Aing) ....................Arts, sensibility, music, knowledge Shakti (D)..Hrim (Hring) ...............Good qualities, energy, family Shiva (D) ......Hum, Om Namah Shivaya .....Protection, liberation, awareness om (ong) basically shreem and shring are not 2 different pronounciations but the same thing the bracket are probably spelling the pronunciation of that beeja if you carefully pronounce shreem , if you observe it has the shring sound. i dont think there are actually 2 differnt pronounciations, others may have different views anyways as told mantras should correct by itself if done seriously , besides it should be taken from a Guru,rather than we experimenting it this is true atleast for BIJA MANTRAS, as they are powerful and its better if one gets this from Guru ,and just dont do it all by urself without initiation the follwoing excerpt by sivananda tells " The Bija-Mantras and the Sri-Vidya should not be repeated by those who are not well acquainted with them. Only those who have a very good knowledge of the Sanskrit language and who have been directly initiated by a Guru (who has Mantra-Siddhi) can take up the Japa of Bija-Mantras and the Sri-Vidya. Others should not approach these Mantras and should do only their own Ishta-Mantras which are easy to pronounce and remember." for more of this article go to this link http://trancenet.org/secrets/sastra.html jai gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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