some points to note/Shiva grihtha mantra modifications

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the mantra is "shivaya namah om" and not the "namah shivaya om" as i

told earlier ,please forgive me for my

in attentiveness/whatever.

 

 

 

 

So

> just like I showed respect to people you revere, kindly do not

>equate

> my sources to T series.

 

 

any T Series chanting ,the credibility should be questioned.iam sorry

if it hurt you.

 

 

 

It is really nice to see someone like you who

> claims that he can mange well without sadhanas give such elaborate

> comments on chanting. This just means that you should be doing them

> yourself too after all

> Have you heard kabir

>

> "Main kehta aankhin dekhi, tu kehta kaagaz kee dekhi"

 

 

 

dont worry, i never told that i did not do Guru mantra, i didnt do

lot of variety sadhanas like you people , but for quiet some time i

have been doing "guru mantra".

 

 

>

> hearsay is never enough. True experience is what you gain yourself.

> So until you sit to chant, all the commentary you are giving will

be

> borrowed.

 

 

mantra by Gurumukha is revealed to you, its my earned thing and not a

borrowed thing.i hope many of you people do not know how a Guru can

reveal a mantra to you, it depends on a Guru.

 

 

Well I too am not in a position yet to give any original

> authentic comments but I am trying in this direction and gaining

> success and getting guidance too. And whatever little I have

learnt,

> I have put in the few posts I have posted on sadhanas, and will put

> more in the posts that follow.

>

> its

> very sad that you people dont understand the need for a bhava while

> chanting the mantra.(by bhava you focus a mantra besides purpose).

> no doubt without bhava also things work but, it would take lot of

> time to set to the natural tune/bhava of the mantra in the mean

time

> one may get frustrated and discontinue

>

> what on earth made you make this assumption and statement?? No

mantra

> ritual of mine goes without bhav. Please go back and read the post

on

> sadhanas I have posted, probably in taking a quick look you have

> missed my point. The first step I take in chanting any mantra is

> nderstanding what this GOD stands for and I try to with whatever

> limited apparatus in terms of soul mind and body I have open myself

> up to that power. my prayer rituals are never completed without

> listening to some melodious rendering of stotras—since as I put

> across this is the easiest way for me to emote. To understand what

I

> am saying you need to combine the two. Neither bhav nor sadhana

alone

> can work, when I started as a child I had enough bhav in me to make

> things happen by listening to any obscure bhajan or praying. Then

as

> I grew older I lost this capacity. But chanting cleanses the dirt

> that has gathered within even if it is temporarily. It brings it

> back, and I am able to after a session of chanting enjoy the same

> feeling of being immersed in bhakti. Very vain talk I guess. As I

put

> across, it is temporary state and does not happen every day. That

is

> what ashish has been trying to tell you. Just like bhav is

important

> for sadhnas, sadhanas are also important for purifying bhav. It is

> very sad to see someone become a disciple of nikhileshwarand and

deny

> himself the path of sadhana. And remember one thing, human beings

are

> different just like you think you can manage purely by bhav, there

> are people at the other extreme who can mange just by sadhna since

> bhav is not something that come naturally to them. but they have

> tremendous will power and that is their path. But yes the best

dinner

> is when it is full course. Coffee to dessert.

 

 

 

 

> >

> >

> > Generally mantra should be given by a Guru and he assumes the

> Ø responsiblity of that sadhana,

>

> yet I have chanted so many mantras without meeting Dr srimali, and

> still managed to get the right pitch and tone etc. so will I mange

> with aum namah shivaay too. Thank you for your concern, but I think

I

> have guidance.

 

 

whatever you please, to tell you and others is my part, you will do

whatever your karma dictates

 

> >

> > > >

> now if you do not mind, in the limited time I have, I prefer to use

> it constructively in helping people like nazir ji. I think he needs

> us all a lot these days. we have been chatting for months now, and

> our philosophic discussions can wait till we are more free.

 

 

please use your time , however way you please.

 

 

jai Gurudev