Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Jay Gurudev Dears If somebody has performed Mahakali Sadhna according to the book "Mahakali Sadhna", kindly clarify the following terms. - Nirmalaya Patra - Upvastra (Chunri)- what is to actually offer - Shobhagya Sutra (Mangal Sutra)- what is it basically or what to offer - Agru - ??? - Gorochan - ??? - Varna Vyas - how to perform Kindly let me know, if anybody is aware of any above term Jay Gurudev Charanjit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 ---Jay Gurudev Dears dear charanjit ram ram and jai gurudev, If somebody has performed Mahakali Sadhna according to the book "Mahakali Sadhna", kindly clarify the following terms. - Nirmalaya Patra any copper vessel- small lota or plate so that the yantra itself is not washed every time. for first time worship you can offer directly on the yantra and later wipe it dry and offer this water later to tulsi or peepal. - Upvastra (Chunri)- what is to actually offer a small piece of mouli, a small red chunni -the ones you get for 10 15 rs, or a real nice one. this can later be given to a little girl or offered in any devi temple, if kali temple is not nearby. - Shobhagya Sutra (Mangal Sutra)- what is it basically or what to offer akshat, or again you can offer an imitation mangalsutra, a silver one, or a gold one too depending on how much she has given you. for daily worship akshat will do. the same applies to aabhushan. - Agru - ??? - Gorochan - ??? ashta gandha is made of 8 things and agar, gorochan, chandan kasturi are among them, so just offer the ashta gandha powder you buy at gurudham. alternately, these will be available with any parchoon shop. at least in old delhi you will find everything. also one more thing for itra i recommend going to palika i have rose and lotus from jain superstore shop number 176. it lasts ages and ages. and you will be grateful everyday for the fragrance that spreads around you. you may even buy ashtagandha there if you so wish. also khas khas is especially. - Varna Vyas - how to perform am aam im.... iti hridaya touch heart with your right hand, it is given right there. Kindly let me know, if anybody is aware of any above term the basic idea in devi worship is to make offernings in proportion to your income. what i mean is do not be miserly, but do not stretch yourself beyond your means. and worship at least 1 little girl after your sankalp is over. kids and the mother they represent are are pleased witha box of chocolates, glass bangles, and a small tiffin box, or whatever you please. usually the girl should be older than 2 and younger than 11. i have been invited and worshipped even at age 20 as people do not really care, but this is not correct. the usual problem that i have faced is that i cannot say no to the girls one they are there. so just feed them and give everything you do to your kanjaks, but do not count them in the kanjaks. thank you for your lovely card. i am not angry at all, why should i be angry? when i was 3 or 4, i would often tag along with my mami ji to go to her parents place. she is a bengali, and her brother would often tease me calling maa, maa. this would annoy be no end, and i would point at his mother and say - there, that is your maa. do not call me maa, i am just too small.so when i read your card, i could not help smiling and writing back. bengalis are the only ones in india who have stronlgy resisited this westernized mom, dad or mummy papa, and parents are referred to as maa baba in their homes. i like the sound of the word maa, more than any other reference as mother, and when i have children i will get them to call me maa. beyond that, i think it is good for me to practice silence. one should know when what one is saying has become totally irrelevant and stop. thank you biru bhaiyya for your qeury, i am just fine. and thank you dear ashish for your card. and thank you msethuramaan ji- it is nice to meet you too!? god bless all of you. i will pop in once in a blue moon. otherwise if there is no immediate response from me please do not worry, i am just fine. writing these long mails to issp is extremely time consuming, and serves no real purpose, and i cannot afford this time any more. nor am i in spirits to provide any one any personal "guidancce" or "councelling" however cherished it might have been. there are people who can do several things together, and do them all well. and i admire them. i am sorry, i am not one of them. and so, i will prefer to concentarte on my priorities in life. good wishes and take care, jai gurudev anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Jay Gurudev Jay Mata ki Dear Anu These navratra are really great. AFter a long time the Anu has broken her silence. Thank u Anu. We all need your presence and support and don't think that ur words have gone useless. We are more than 200 now to listen to our great sister. Please contribute as much as you can. Atleast I can assure u from side that i have read all your postings. Thanks for all the explanations. I will try to follow your words. Don't think that writing to issp is time consuming. You are writing for your brother and sister who need your support and help. Dear Sister u r free to set your priorities and work according to them. But don't forget your brothers. Bye Keep in touch. Jay Gurudev Charanjit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Jay Mata ki Dear charanjit, Thank you very much for your love and affection. You make me feel really important. You are no less important than me and are much more silent very often. Very nice to hear this - Jai mata ki. Reminds me of vaishno devi as well as in my paternal side this is the usual greeting. But they are not one bit interested in mantra and yantra business. I do not know how and why at all I got into all this. Sometimes I wonder if these things serve any purpose at all apart from confusing the mind. The danger in the path of gyaan is being completely entangled in a mess trying to sort what cannot be sorted by reason alone. The danger in the path of sadhana is being lost in the mirage of powers it brings, and thus in maya. The danger in the path of bhakti is vanity. After being given some special treatment here and there you tend to forget that you are just one of her children and not that special after all. I think I am in a mood to talk. As a little girl of seven, just back from an year in japan I had stood looking at a swaroop of the devi at my paternal home. Looking at the dazzling jewelry, the fine silks – fascinated by all this as all little girls are –just looking when some one standing behind me had ushered –tell her that you want to stand first in your class in the next exam. Eyes wide in surprise I had looked up "aise maang sakte hain kya!?- can we really ask like this!?" to every body's delight and laughter at my ignorance. And then I had prayed for standing first. I still remember that I did not stand first, I stood third perhaps in a hint from her that this is not such a good idea after all. But the damage was done. And from her child I was reduced to the position of a manipulative beggar, not very different from the ones who wipe your car screens make a pitiable face and say de, de". I do not think as long as ulterior motives persist such a thing as a bhakti is possible, and no I am not a bhakta. Just a 2 year child who has been badly trained to believe that crying works, I am not in a mood to chant please? works, and a charming smile works. I cannot forget you all and this issp. It has made an impact on me in the past year and this one. I never wanted to do sadhanas, never wanted a guru, and never was interested in gurusewa. I think I still am not. I will keep popping in once in a while. It will be infrequent that is all. Meanwhile please take care, and GOD bless all Good wishes and if you do not hear from me, I am still here please do not miss me. I apologize but writing for discussion lists is not a priority at this time, nor is trying to sort others when I am myself somewhat lost. but i really am not angry with any of you, sacchi. Jai gurudev Anu Ab, I do not know what to say to a particular brother of mine. The whole world is worrying about maa, navratri and sadhana and he is writing to me "this is urgent" kind of messages to tell him what kashish means. This is no time to think of romance, and I will not answer such personal mails for a few months and I am not impressed!! Though I am very amused and it really changed my mood. Bhaiya internet hai, search karo! I am not a dictionary. Anyway, kashish is may be kasak in hindi. It is attraction and longing, but a very subtle kind. If you go a party where there are 50 people and there is a girl in a corner with whom there is mutual awareness a but may not even be exchanged glances, and an inadeptness at how to handle it and you come back and think for weeks about it, then that is kashish. Now please say "jai mata ki" with everybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 Happy Vijaya Dashami and Deepawali to you and family. Jaya Gurudev bishnu, mala and vishma At 08:05 PM 10/11/02 +0000, you wrote: Jay Mata ki Dear charanjit, Thank you very much for your love and affection. You make me feel really important. You are no less important than me and are much more silent very often. Very nice to hear this - Jai mata ki. Reminds me of vaishno devi as well as in my paternal side this is the usual greeting. But they are not one bit interested in mantra and yantra business. I do not know how and why at all I got into all this. Sometimes I wonder if these things serve any purpose at all apart from confusing the mind. The danger in the path of gyaan is being completely entangled in a mess trying to sort what cannot be sorted by reason alone. The danger in the path of sadhana is being lost in the mirage of powers it brings, and thus in maya. The danger in the path of bhakti is vanity. After being given some special treatment here and there you tend to forget that you are just one of her children and not that special after all. I think I am in a mood to talk. As a little girl of seven, just back from an year in japan I had stood looking at a swaroop of the devi at my paternal home. Looking at the dazzling jewelry, the fine silks fascinated by all this as all little girls are just looking when some one standing behind me had ushered tell her that you want to stand first in your class in the next exam. Eyes wide in surprise I had looked up "aise maang sakte hain kya!?- can we really ask like this!?" to every body's delight and laughter at my ignorance. And then I had prayed for standing first. I still remember that I did not stand first, I stood third perhaps in a hint from her that this is not such a good idea after all. But the damage was done. And from her child I was reduced to the position of a manipulative beggar, not very different from the ones who wipe your car screens make a pitiable face and say de, de". I do not think as long as ulterior motives persist such a thing as a bhakti is possible, and no I am not a bhakta. Just a 2 year child who has been badly trained to believe that crying works, I am not in a mood to chant please? works, and a charming smile works. I cannot forget you all and this issp. It has made an impact on me in the past year and this one. I never wanted to do sadhanas, never wanted a guru, and never was interested in gurusewa. I think I still am not. I will keep popping in once in a while. It will be infrequent that is all. Meanwhile please take care, and GOD bless all Good wishes and if you do not hear from me, I am still here please do not miss me. I apologize but writing for discussion lists is not a priority at this time, nor is trying to sort others when I am myself somewhat lost. but i really am not angry with any of you, sacchi. Jai gurudev Anu Ab, I do not know what to say to a particular brother of mine. The whole world is worrying about maa, navratri and sadhana and he is writing to me "this is urgent" kind of messages to tell him what kashish means. This is no time to think of romance, and I will not answer such personal mails for a few months and I am not impressed!! Though I am very amused and it really changed my mood. Bhaiya internet hai, search karo! I am not a dictionary. Anyway, kashish is may be kasak in hindi. It is attraction and longing, but a very subtle kind. If you go a party where there are 50 people and there is a girl in a corner with whom there is mutual awareness a but may not even be exchanged glances, and an inadeptness at how to handle it and you come back and think for weeks about it, then that is kashish. Now please say "jai mata ki" with everybody else. ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click./QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/wpWolB/TM ---~-> Jay Gurudev Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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