Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 dear group members, i have become the member of this group about 15 days back. i am reading the current and previous months messages. i have few queries and need clarifications. i sincerely hope that you ppl help me too as u have helped others. These are some of my sincere queries. Please do not feel agitated and give me some sharp comments, however, healthy criticism is most welcome for the queries i raised, but i request you ppl not to do some prayog on me to punish me as my life is quite miserable already. Due to some incidents in my recent life i have come across (some difficult to understand and explain type) experiences that made me inquisitive and interested in this field and i found this group to be a great place to feel more comfortable about the science of tantra mantra. I shall share my experiences with u in my later emails and wud like to have ur comments / feedback / suggestions and help in those regards. About myself: ------------- i have done engineering in electrical and currently working as a Computer Grafix Designer. i have a scientific mind bend and an analytical way of looking at things that happen around me. i have been taught to analyse facts and go deep into the basics of things and not just accept the things (facts) by word of mouth. (may be that can be called my weakness... i accept that.) My Queries: 1. Is there REALLY any power in these Mantras / Tantras / Yantras / Vashikaran etc.? If yes, is it really as powerful as ppl say it is and if they are really as powerful as a Nuclear Bomb, is it safe to let the 'RED' button be handled by ppl who are coward and weak, who can't face the truth and reality in life. I truely appreciate the helping spirit of the members and knowledge sharing that is happening here. But, do u think it should be used to control a girl who has left a guy for some reason, and to enslave some boss and get quick promotions by using vashikaran etc. and not by true love and real hardwork. I still find it hard to believe if it really works. 2. Why is money all that important to get diksha? does that mean that God / Guru wud not accept the prayers of the poor. Did Eklavya not get the 'Dhanur Vidya' from the idol of 'Guru Dronacharya'? However, that innocence, devotion, selfless determination is rare in today's world, if there still is any. 3. When we ask something about spirituality that we dont understand from ppl who know. Why do these ppl always say that "You shall know when u come to our age" or "why do they get angry and get annoyed on cross querying." How can we understand anything if our basic fundamentals are not clear. WHy dont they answer the fundamental basic questions raised by ppl who want to understand? 4. I would also like to know a bit about the academic backgrounds of the ppl participating in this group, however, this is not very important. I felt really happy and surprised when i saw ppl with similar fields and interests as mine, sharing information about spiritualism, Gods and Tantra Mantra. Please dont take this query otherwise. 5. I felt very scared and uneasy when i read about Mr. Raghu's Sister. That her in laws have done some totka on her and she has suffered from paralysis due to that. Is this really possible? Can we really have a discussion on this and do some research on this to find the proper cure for Raghu's sister, rather than doing a counter prayog and killing some innocent people. As he said someone was always found dead when he did some counter prayogs. 6. I read about powers like 'Walking on water' and 'Flying in air' and 'Seeing the past and Future like vision'. Can these powers REALLY be achieved by kundalini activation? Has anyone ever seen any such powers in a human being in person with his / her own eyes. Can these powers not be used to control the sufferings of the life forms like in Kashmir, Gujrat, Andhra, Iraq, Russia, Afganistan etc. if not eliminate them OR to find the solutions of unknowns like Scientific / Mathematical / Space Research problems / Genetics problems etc. 7. Can we somehow invite some independant agency like 'DISCOVERY CHANNEL' or 'NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC' or 'BBC' or someone like them to help us in the re-search and popularize this vidya scientifically. Indian Science Museum have kept some problems to be solved using these powers in order to remove 'andh-vishwas' from the people. We can really do a great service to our world by making them aware of spirituality in this better, easier and more scientific way. thanks and warm regards, an inquisitive beginer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 dear group member, you have so many questions, i have lot of work to be done,ill try to answer 1 or 2 in short. Due to some incidents in my recent life i have come across > (some difficult to understand and explain type) experiences that > made me inquisitive and interested in this field and i found this > group to be a great place to feel more comfortable about the science > of tantra mantra. you have come to the right group. > > I shall share my experiences with u in my later emails and wud like > to have ur comments / feedback / suggestions and help in those > regards. > you are welcome,other members here would gladly help you. > > i have done engineering in electrical and currently working as a > Computer Grafix Designer. i have a scientific mind bend and an > analytical way of looking at things that happen around me. i have > been taught to analyse facts and go deep into the basics of things > and not just accept the things (facts) by word of mouth. (may be > that can be called my weakness... i accept that.) here some members have some experience in sadhanas, so their word of mouth is worth consideration. > > > My Queries: > > 1. Is there REALLY any power in these Mantras / Tantras / Yantras / > Vashikaran etc.? If yes, is it really as powerful as ppl say it is > and if they are really as powerful as a Nuclear Bomb, is it safe to > let the 'RED' button be handled by ppl who are coward and weak, who > can't face the truth and reality in life. > understand the law of karma! say if i kill my enemy this time, i will be killed next time. so on and so forth. life is not just the interval between the date of your birth to your time of death,it is an extension from your past lives and will continue till sometime in future,until you hold some form. > I truely appreciate the helping spirit of the members and knowledge > sharing that is happening here. all the active members here are kind hearted and helping by nature. i really have very limited time,may be other members would try to answer you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 , "main_inquisitive2002" <m_bajaj_2000> wrote: > dear group members, dear inquisitive beginner, you can be assured that you are talking to your class mate. i will write a longer mail in a few days. meanwhile, a warm welcome to our group. We look forward to interacting with you. jaigurudev and good wishes anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 thanx for ur valuable time and answers, i look forward to your further answers in future. if u have some time to spare to answer my looooooong queries. thanx once again. --- birendra_m <birendra_m wrote: > dear group member, > > you have so many questions, i have lot of work to be > done,ill try to > answer 1 or 2 in short. > > > Due to some incidents in my recent life i have come > across > > (some difficult to understand and explain type) > experiences that > > made me inquisitive and interested in this field > and i found this > > group to be a great place to feel more comfortable > about the > science > > of tantra mantra. > > > you have come to the right group. > > > > > I shall share my experiences with u in my later > emails and wud like > > to have ur comments / feedback / suggestions and > help in those > > regards. > > > > you are welcome,other members here would gladly help > you. > > > > > i have done engineering in electrical and > currently working as a > > Computer Grafix Designer. i have a scientific mind > bend and an > > analytical way of looking at things that happen > around me. i have > > been taught to analyse facts and go deep into the > basics of things > > and not just accept the things (facts) by word of > mouth. (may be > > that can be called my weakness... i accept that.) > > > here some members have some experience in sadhanas, > so their word of > mouth is worth consideration. > > > > > > > > My Queries: > > > > > 1. Is there REALLY any power in these Mantras / > Tantras / Yantras / > > Vashikaran etc.? If yes, is it really as powerful > as ppl say it is > > and if they are really as powerful as a Nuclear > Bomb, is it safe to > > let the 'RED' button be handled by ppl who are > coward and weak, who > > can't face the truth and reality in life. > > > > understand the law of karma! > say if i kill my enemy this time, i will be killed > next time. > so on and so forth. > life is not just the interval between the date of > your birth to your > time of death,it is an extension from your past > lives and will > continue till sometime in future,until you hold some > form. > > > > > > > > I truely appreciate the helping spirit of the > members and knowledge > > sharing that is happening here. > > > all the active members here are kind hearted and > helping by nature. > > > > i really have very limited time,may be other members > would try to > answer you > > > > Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 JAI GURUDEV Dear inquisitive beginer, *** i request you ppl not to do some prayog on me to punish me as my life is quite miserable already. *** Be assured. No such things happen in this group. Though, I threaten Birendra sometimes saying that I would do a maran prayog; but, that's just for fun. Nothing serious about it. *** i have been taught to analyse facts and go deep into the basics of things and not just accept the things (facts) by word of mouth. (may be that can be called my weakness... i accept that.) *** That's your biggest strength. *** 1. Is there REALLY any power in these Mantras / Tantras / Yantras / Vashikaran etc.? If yes, is it really as powerful as ppl say it is and if they are really as powerful as a Nuclear Bomb, is it safe to let the 'RED' button be handled by ppl who are coward and weak, who can't face the truth and reality in life. *** There surely is power in these Mantras / Tantras / Yantras / Vashikaran etc. as big as Nuclear bomb. But, this power needs the power of self as a backend without which it is useless. Therefore, cowards and weak can't even get closer to the red button. *** But, do u think it should be used to control a girl who has left a guy for some reason, and to enslave some boss and get quick promotions by using vashikaran etc. and not by true love and real hardwork. *** These things don't work this way. These things create a favourable environment and increase the chances of your success by many folds provided you act the right way. *** I still find it hard to believe if it really works. *** Since you can't go by the word of mouth, I suggest, perform a sadhana and see for yourself. Try it, you'll love it. *** 2. Why is money all that important to get diksha? *** Money is not important at all. Money is there because people don't value things they get for free. *** does that mean that God / Guru wud not accept the prayers of the poor. *** Not at all. If your prayers are sincere, God / Guru would surely accept them; money or no money. *** Did Eklavya not get the 'Dhanur Vidya' from the idol of 'Guru Dronacharya'? *** He did and so can you. *** 5. I felt very scared and uneasy when i read about Mr. Raghu's Sister. That her in laws have done some totka on her and she has suffered from paralysis due to that. Is this really possible? *** Unfortunately, yes. This is the result of the darker side of tantra. *** 6. I read about powers like 'Walking on water' and 'Flying in air' and 'Seeing the past and Future like vision'. Can these powers REALLY be achieved by kundalini activation? *** Yes. *** Has anyone ever seen any such powers in a human being in person with his / her own eyes. *** Yes. I have. *** 7. Can we somehow invite some independant agency like 'DISCOVERY CHANNEL' or 'NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC' or 'BBC' or someone like them to help us in the re-search and popularize this vidya scientifically. *** Many such researches are already in progress. *** We can really do a great service to our world by making them aware of spirituality in this better, easier and more scientific way. *** Certainly, we can. And finally, welcome dear friend. May god bless you with success everywhere. Take care, Ashish Marathe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 cool...thanx a ton Ashish tell me about u, where r u and where have u seen such super human beings with amazing powers like walking on water, flying in air and seeing past / future. Can i also meet them for my first 1st hand experience to start believing in these sides of nature. ok it was like a starter, give me the main course now. i mean u answers have worked like ghee in aag of my inquisitiveness. Tell me more. give me more facts about the researches that are underway, as u pointed out about them. is anything of the similar sorts being done in delhi or some place close. i shall visit the place personally to quench my thirst to know about this parapsychological stuff. also tell me about where can i read some authentic facts (not story / fiction) about the prayog about that paralysis prayog. I am begining to unfold my REAL queries one by one. please give me suitable, well informed answers. QUERY: ------ In hinduism they say that there are 33 Crore Devtas residing in holy cow. Right...!!! On 15th August 1947, then PM Mr. Jawahar Lal Nehru said that tonight when the whole world sleeps, we the nation of 30_CRORE indians... -------- IS THAT TRUELY POSSIBLE THAT WE INDIANS WITH LESS THAN 30 CRORE HINDUS HAVE MORE THAN 33Crore devi devtas? ----------- Also tell me some more sites to visit. thanx once again. an inquisitive beginer --- Ashish <nikhilashish wrote: > JAI GURUDEV > Dear inquisitive beginer, > > *** i request you ppl not to do some prayog on me > to punish me as my life is quite miserable already. > *** > > Be assured. No such things happen in this group. > Though, I threaten > Birendra sometimes saying that I would do a maran > prayog; but, > that's just for fun. Nothing serious about it. > > *** i have been taught to analyse facts and go deep > into the basics of things and not just accept the > things (facts) by word of mouth. (may be that can be > called my weakness... i accept that.) *** > > That's your biggest strength. > > *** 1. Is there REALLY any power in these Mantras / > Tantras / Yantras / Vashikaran etc.? If yes, is it > really as powerful as ppl say it is and if they are > really as powerful as a Nuclear Bomb, is it safe to > let the 'RED' button be handled by ppl who are > coward and weak, who can't face the truth and > reality in life. *** > > There surely is power in these Mantras / Tantras / > Yantras / > Vashikaran etc. as big as Nuclear bomb. But, this > power needs the > power of self as a backend without which it is > useless. Therefore, > cowards and weak can't even get closer to the red > button. > > *** But, do u think it should be used to control a > girl who has left a guy for some reason, and to > enslave some boss and get quick promotions by using > vashikaran etc. and not by true love and real > hardwork. *** > > These things don't work this way. These things > create a favourable > environment and increase the chances of your success > by many folds > provided you act the right way. > > *** I still find it hard to believe if it really > works. *** > > Since you can't go by the word of mouth, I suggest, > perform a > sadhana and see for yourself. Try it, you'll love > it. > > *** 2. Why is money all that important to get > diksha? *** > > Money is not important at all. Money is there > because people don't > value things they get for free. > > *** does that mean that God / Guru wud not accept > the prayers of the poor. *** > > Not at all. If your prayers are sincere, God / Guru > would surely > accept them; money or no money. > > *** Did Eklavya not get the 'Dhanur Vidya' from the > idol of 'Guru Dronacharya'? *** > > He did and so can you. > > *** 5. I felt very scared and uneasy when i read > about Mr. Raghu's Sister. That her in laws have done > some totka on her and she has suffered from > paralysis > due to that. Is this really possible? *** > > Unfortunately, yes. This is the result of the darker > side of tantra. > > *** 6. I read about powers like 'Walking on water' > and 'Flying in air' and 'Seeing the past and Future > like vision'. Can these powers REALLY be achieved > by kundalini activation? *** > > Yes. > > *** Has anyone ever seen any such powers in a human > being in person with his / her own eyes. *** > > Yes. I have. > > *** 7. Can we somehow invite some independant agency > like 'DISCOVERY CHANNEL' or 'NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC' or > 'BBC' or someone like them to help us in the > re-search > and popularize this vidya scientifically. *** > > Many such researches are already in progress. > > *** We can really do a great service to our world by > making them aware of spirituality in this better, > easier and more scientific way. *** > > Certainly, we can. > > And finally, welcome dear friend. May god bless you > with success > everywhere. Take care, > > Ashish Marathe > > Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 Hi Manuj, *** where r u *** I am in India. *** Can i also meet them for my first 1st hand experience to start believing in these sides of nature. *** No, you can't. My guruji, Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali had all those 'amazing' powers (and I am lucky to have witnessed some of them) and unfortunately, he is no more. *** give me more facts about the researches that are underway, as u pointed out about them. *** I don't have much details. I had read somewhere (on a website or in a magazine) that such reasearches are going on. That's all. *** i shall visit the place personally to quench my thirst to know about this parapsychological stuff. *** You can do a research of your own. Perform any sadhana sincerely, intensely and you'll be able to feel the power within you. I feel, no proof can be better than that. *** IS THAT TRUELY POSSIBLE THAT WE INDIANS WITH LESS THAN 30 CRORE HINDUS HAVE MORE THAN 33Crore devi devtas? *** Of course. Why not? Good luck, Ashish Marathe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 Dear inquisitive beginer, I can understand ur state of mind coz I was in the same state of mind a few months back and I do keep coming back. There is just one thing that I can tell u that even if u meet somebody with such amazing powers u may or may not believe. First u said "Does anyone KNOW somebody with such powers". And then u said "I would like to meet myself personally". I think the 3rd step would be "I wanna experience them myself". So why dont you give it a try now and see what happens. In my case I just started thinking that all these years I have been working with the approach "I need to see it to believe it" and it did not work. So I shd start with the opposite approach " I will believe it to see it". And it worked. Rest it is up to u. Take Care and Best Wishes. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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