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Namastey,

I been a silent lurker in this group, and still have taken some

insults ,,, I dont intend to take any more from any one so I m

quiting ,,I know I could have done it quietly but I want some one to

know here what he/she has done to harm and hurt people.

This is what you get for your goodness ,,, god bless you all here ,,,

love and peace and bliss for you all from one Idiot, stupid and what

not??

bye

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Dear Geeta didi,

 

There are silent observers and admirers of ur letters, probably more

than you may know. I don't who may have caused you anxiety, but I

feel no one in this group would have done any such things

with 'intention'. Because words on a piece of mail, can only contain

a minutest fraction of the original feeling or intention with which

they might have been written, they often tend to get discoloured

and/or distorted.

 

Do not give importance to such things. In my own case, 2 months ago,

I daily used to face insults at home from my very own people living

with me. I am not offered a plate of meals when I come back from

office at night. (i.e. only the plates for others will be kept

ready, and I have to go myself and fetch one for me). All this,

inspite of me being the bread earner. I used to feel very much hurt

initially, but now since it has become a routine, I don't attach any

more importance to it. I think I may be repaying some bad karmic

debts, which were long over due. I nomore suffer from any insult on

this particular account, though there are other troubling issues,

which I am fighting out.

 

Warm regards and affection...

rv

 

, "geet1957" <geet1957> wrote:

> Namastey,

> I been a silent lurker in this group, and still have taken some

> insults ,,, I dont intend to take any more from any one so I m

> quiting ,,I know I could have done it quietly but I want some one

to

> know here what he/she has done to harm and hurt people.

> This is what you get for your goodness ,,, god bless you all

here ,,,

> love and peace and bliss for you all from one Idiot, stupid and

what

> not??

> bye

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Dear, dear Geeta …,

How many times I the past few months I have known you have I told you

that I salute the way you have handled your life, and that I see you

as an extension of myself. I am not sure I would have been left sane

after handling what you have handled in life.

All that I have repeatedly said is that no matter how tough life gets

you have to be strong, you have to stand and you have to walk.

Because if you sit infinitely, life keeps walking by. And even death

is no

solution to this because I will have to handle the same issues within

me again. Peoples feeling sorry for you, or not sorry for you does

not help –in fact it makes things worse. Human beings are afraid of

pain. What appears as sympathy is usually fear of facing the same

situation in their own life. That said, the only reason anyone would

ever love me will be for my good qualities and not my pain, and

geeta, you are a wonderful person - pure at heart.

 

I will give you an example in my family. One of my father's elder

brothers lost a young son in his late twenties in I think 1990. They

had two other kids – an older married son and a younger daughter.

As is very natural both parents were in pain. But the mother (my

aunt) took it worse than the father (my uncle). She was totally

unable to handle life, was miserable and lost all interests in

carrying out normal activities in life. We are a very religious

family partly because another elder brother of my father has attained

sainthood or oneness with God or whatever you can call it - if you

wish to believe it. So there is a lot of worship happening and I

think several of my family members have been forced to be bhaktas

whether or not they have any interest there. So bhakti did not help

her, attempts to put her mind at social service failed. To make the

family's misery worse my cousin's (their son's) wife had difficulty

in conception for a decade. In my opinion, loss of a child can only

be made up by a child.

 

Then lady luck shined, and my bhabhi conceived in 2000 and ever year

the couple brought back home a child –now three! And I would often

joke with my uncle and congratulate him on his growing khandaan. My

aunt was on sky nine. And then guess what? The day after this

janamshtami my uncle expired due to massive heart attack much to the

shock of all of us who loved him because he was perfectly fine and

only 65. And the situation is back to square one for my aunt. When we

do not face a difficult situation in the first place, we unwittingly

end up drawing more such occasions to ourself, and it will keep

happening until you learn the lesson intended for you. And I have

also made this mistake in my own life too.

May GOD bless you, may you get all the happiness in the world. May

you succeed at whatever you put your hand to, and may peace be yours,

lasting love be yours. Geeta, there is no one else in this I

wish as much good for as I wish for you.

Good luck,

Love, and lots of it

Jaigurudev

anu

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Jay Gurudev

Dear Geeta,

 

I m replying late but really sorry to learn about the incident. And

it is really unfortunate that ur voice is not heard in a good manner.

We all respect your participation and respect u as our sister. I have

taken a serious note on this issue. Birendra has done this but i

don't know what was his intention. But this is his 3rd mistake.

 

Please my sister don't loose your heart. Gurudev is there to do the

justice. And please don't leave. As per your wish remain silent but

be there.

 

I request other members also to take a note of this issue. And please

untill/unless u r not sure please don't send any personal mail to

anybody.

 

About Birendra, i like to invite other members comment on what to do

with him. Writing something wrong continuously is not tolerable and

that too with our sisters.

 

Jay Gurudev

Charanjit

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lets not create any more heated environment. i don't know what has happened

again but i don't to

see more flares here. Remember Pujya Gurudev has always wished for his

disciples to remain like the

flowers in a Pushpa Malaa.

 

To forgive is divine. More n more you forgive closer and closer you become

like his son in heaven.

We all do mistakes. Lets look beyond them. Please don't bring personal

mattters to the list.

 

Lets share and discuss without any ego, hatred or pride.

 

luv,

Anurag

>

>C Kumar [ckumar99]

>Monday, November 25, 2002 12:03 PM

>

> Re: leaving

>

>

>Jay Gurudev

>Dear Geeta,

>

>I m replying late but really sorry to learn about the incident. And

>it is really unfortunate that ur voice is not heard in a good manner.

>We all respect your participation and respect u as our sister. I have

>taken a serious note on this issue. Birendra has done this but i

>don't know what was his intention. But this is his 3rd mistake.

>

>Please my sister don't loose your heart. Gurudev is there to do the

>justice. And please don't leave. As per your wish remain silent but

>be there.

>

>I request other members also to take a note of this issue. And please

>untill/unless u r not sure please don't send any personal mail to

>anybody.

>

>About Birendra, i like to invite other members comment on what to do

>with him. Writing something wrong continuously is not tolerable and

>that too with our sisters.

>

>Jay Gurudev

>Charanjit

>

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I dont know why somebody or the other always fights here

This is not fine,we should forget our personal interests and egoes and deliberately

create a nice atomsphere to discuss things.When any fighting comes attention of

all people goes there and instead of discussing some great things we starts

telling all scrap

Fighting once in a blue moon in fun,but not always

Let us all try to make our bond much stronger than ever Love

Jaijith

 

 

 

C Kumar <ckumar99 > wrote:

Jay GurudevDear Geeta, I m replying late but really sorry to learn about the

incident. And it is really unfortunate that ur voice is not heard in a good

manner. We all respect your participation and respect u as our sister. I have

taken a serious note on this issue. Birendra has done this but i don't know

what was his intention. But this is his 3rd mistake. Please my sister don't

loose your heart. Gurudev is there to do the justice. And please don't leave.

As per your wish remain silent but be there.I request other members also to

take a note of this issue. And please untill/unless u r not sure please don't

send any personal mail to anybody.About Birendra, i like to invite other

members comment on what to do with him. Writing something wrong continuously is

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i fully agree with jay

-----Original Mess age-----jay [sspmtyv ]Monday,

November 25, 2002 12:41 PMSubject: Re:

Re: leaving

Jay Gurudev I dont know why somebody or the other always fights here This is not

fine,we should forget our personal interests and egoes and deliberately create a

nice atomsphere to discuss things.When any fighting comes attention of all

people goes there and instead of discussing some great things we starts telling

all scrap Fighting once in a blue moon in fun,but not always Let us all try to

make our bond much stronger than ever Love Jaijith

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Jay Gurudev

Dear Brothers and Sisters

 

I m really sorry for the responces of my mail.

> I dont know why somebody or the other always fights here.

It is not somebody or other, I m Charanjit, u can call me by name and

as far as the issue is concerned. Misinformation, Disinformation and

lack of information is very dangerous.

> This is not fine,we should forget our personal interests and egoes

> and deliberately

Here u r wrong. I have no personal problem with anybody. And i have

responded to Geeta's mail. And i don't mind oppossing anybody

creating wrong atmosphere or sending nonsence mail to our sisters.

My dear we all are here for a good conversation and to discuss about

spirtuality and about our beloved Gurudev. Why to create nusence by

telling somebody that she is stupid, fool etc. like the one Birendra

sent to Geeta. Geeta is a silent member here but that does not give

anybody any right to tell her anything. This is really very bad.

> create a nice atomsphere to discuss things.When any fighting comes

> attention of all people goes there and instead of discussing some

> great things we starts telling all scrap

Atomphere is nice here. But we should be careful that nobody dares to

create any nusence with any member.

 

I m attached with this group from very early. And have seen many ups

and downs but this is the first time that any member is leaving this

group just becoz one member has send him some nusence mail absuing

her overall dignity.

 

My dear brothers and Sister, nobody will come here to rescue us if

all of us start doing wrong. We shoud have self discipline.

 

 

Jay Gurudev

Charanjit

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dear charanjit,

 

there is a lot of confusion here. i can understand the transmitted

anger you have for birendra, but to quote you

Misinformation, Disinformation and

> lack of information is very dangerous.

>

 

no body called geeta anything at all. neither i nor birendra nor

ashish. and i can say this with 100% confidence.

she has misunderstood and misinetrepreted a lot of things. i am not

in touch with her for 4 months now so surely i said nothing. thank

you dear brother, but no one is saying anything to your sisters -at

least not this one!!

 

can we please close the matter here and continue to discuss it

outside? i will write to you a longer mail when you are in a good

mood (personal!).

i agree with jay and i also agree with anurag. the only mistakes i

have made is that i have trusted wrong people on the internet

brothers or sisters or whatever with information and had faith in

them and all this mess here has been caused by this.

 

so relax, take care and thank you very much for all your effort.

may GOD and guruji bless you. i will write in a few days i promise

aum shanti, shanti shantihi

love and GOD bless

jai gurudev

anu

 

and biru bhaiya -i request you to ignore this and not carry this

discussion on here. i will send you and ashish a copy as well. so we

can settle our tiffs outside.

 

> > This is not fine,we should forget our personal interests and

egoes

> > and deliberately

> Here u r wrong. I have no personal problem with anybody. And i have

> responded to Geeta's mail. And i don't mind oppossing anybody

> creating wrong atmosphere or sending nonsence mail to our sisters.

> My dear we all are here for a good conversation and to discuss

about

> spirtuality and about our beloved Gurudev. Why to create nusence

by

> telling somebody that she is stupid, fool etc. like the one

Birendra

> sent to Geeta. Geeta is a silent member here but that does not

give

> anybody any right to tell her anything. This is really very bad.

>

> > create a nice atomsphere to discuss things.When any fighting

comes

> > attention of all people goes there and instead of discussing

some

> > great things we starts telling all scrap

> Atomphere is nice here. But we should be careful that nobody dares

to

> create any nusence with any member.

>

> I m attached with this group from very early. And have seen many

ups

> and downs but this is the first time that any member is leaving

this

> group just becoz one member has send him some nusence mail absuing

> her overall dignity.

>

> My dear brothers and Sister, nobody will come here to rescue us if

> all of us start doing wrong. We shoud have self discipline.

>

>

> Jay Gurudev

> Charanjit

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Jay Gurudev

Dear Anu

 

There is no confusion sister. But I m against this practice. I have

no personal grievences with Birendra. He is doing good. But that does

not made him right. And i really do not mind opposing even U or

Ashish or Birendra or anybody else who goes for wrongly.

> no body called geeta anything at all. neither i nor birendra nor

> ashish. and i can say this with 100% confidence.

> she has misunderstood and misinetrepreted a lot of things. i am not

> in touch with her for 4 months now so surely i said nothing. thank

> you dear brother, but no one is saying anything to your sisters -at

> least not this one!!

Let Geeta say this. And I don't say that people never committ

mistakes, they do, but atleast one should accept his mistake. We are

normal person and we can get confused but that should be cleared in

an appropriate manner.

> can we please close the matter here and continue to discuss it

> outside? i will write to you a longer mail when you are in a good

> mood (personal!).

> i agree with jay and i also agree with anurag. the only mistakes i

> have made is that i have trusted wrong people on the internet

> brothers or sisters or whatever with information and had faith in

> them and all this mess here has been caused by this.

If Geeta has nothing to say on this this issue is closed here.

> so relax, take care and thank you very much for all your effort.

> may GOD and guruji bless you. i will write in a few days i promise

Together let us all pray for peace all over the world.

 

Let us be more honest and respect each others dignity and overall

existance. Gurudev wants us to be more pure and satvik.

 

----- Tomorrow is 27th November, the Bhairav Kaal Ashtami. May use

this good time.-----

 

Jay Gurudev

Charanjit

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, "C Kumar" <ckumar99> wrote:

> Jay Gurudev

> Dear Anu

>

> There is no confusion sister. And I don't say that people never

committ

> mistakes, they do, but atleast one should accept his mistake.

 

 

 

admitting mistakes, dear charanjit, takes such a thing as spine.

 

cunning, deceit, lies and ungratefulness but i salute in thee and i

salute in me

that which is beyond it all and called divine