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So dear brother manuj,

 

Here is my promised answer (in parts!!) But perhaps it is more

addressed to all.

 

"1. Is there REALLY any power in these Mantras / Tantras / Yantras /

Vashikaran etc.? If yes, is it really as powerful as ppl say it is

and if they are really as powerful as a Nuclear Bomb, is it safe to

let the 'RED' button be handled by ppl who are coward and weak, who

can't face the truth and reality in life.

 

I truely appreciate the helping spirit of the members and knowledge

sharing that is happening here. But, do u think it should be used to

control a girl who has left a guy for some reason, and to enslave

some boss and get quick promotions by using vashikaran etc. and not

by true love and real hardwork. I still find it hard to believe if

it really works."

 

Though I agree with what ashish wrote, I will like to quote from our

gurudev's book tantra sadhana as I have it in hand. Sorry that cannot

translate more, but I really want to.

 

Tantrik sadhak shareer tatva ko saath le ke aage barta hai. Kyonki

wah jaanta hai ki is tatava ko chorrna kathin va aswabhavik hai.

Tantra ke anusaar swastha shareer aur man adhyaatmik sadhana ke

aadhaar hain. Bhog manushya ki janmajaat pravirti hai. Tyaag ki

pravirti kast se upaarjit ki jaati hai is liye swabhavikta se door

hai. Guru ke nirdeshan me panchamkaar ka bhog karne se sanyam ki

utpatti hoti hai. Sadhak yeh samajhne lagta hai ki bhogon se chir

sthayi anand nahin mil sakta. Shashwat sukh ke liye sadhak ka hridya

utkanthit hone lagta hai. Tab sadhak panchamakaar aur pashu bhav ki

aasakti chorne par tatpar ho jata ahi.

 

Brihtar aanand ki prapti ke maarga me aane wali badhaon ko tantra

sadhana me paash ke naam se pukaara jata hai. Yeh paash aath prakaar

ke hain –bhookh, pyaas, irshya darr, laaj, maan, raag aur dwesh. Ye

paash manav ko us ke mool chaitanya roop se asmabhandh kar dete hain.

Tantra me aatma gyaan ko pramukhta dee gayi hai. Maaran, stambhan,

ucchatan vashikaran aadi kriyaaon ko gaun mana gaya hai. Ye gaun

kriyaen jinhen abhichaar karma bhi kehte hain lobh marg hain, jin par

chalk kar patan ki sambhaavnayen banti hain. Abhichaar kriya ke moh

se mukta hone par divya bhav ki prapti hone par sadhak indriyateet ho

jata hai. Iccha matra se wah dharti par kisi bhi vastu ka gyaan

prapta kar leta hai.

 

(the tantrik knows that his body is his most vital instrument and he

cannot do away with it. Tantra rests on the foundation of a healthy

body and mind. To go towards –bhoga- that ranges from hunger to need

for sex is basic instinct in man. Tyaag involves pain, and is

therefore unnatural. If panchammakar (madya-wine, matsya –fish,

maansa –flesh, mudra –making poses with hand and maithun –sex) are

indulged in under the guidance of a guru it leads to contentment and

slowly leads to detachment from them. The sadhak begins to understand

that no amount of bhog will lead to everlasting joy. And this leads

to a desire to seek higher knowledge and bliss. Then the sadhak comes

to a state that he is able and longing to give up the pashu bhav

(animal instincts and emotions) and panchamkaar.

 

The obstacles in the path to eternal bliss are called ashta (8) pash

(bondings). They are bhookh (hunger), pyaas (thirst), irshya ya daah

(jealousy), dar (fear), laaj (shame, yes shame! that too is an

expression of "I"), maan (pride and ego), raag (attachment) and

dwesha (I think dwesha is jealousy and negative emotions to others

without a cause). These eight obstacles lead man to forget his true

chaitanya (illuminated) nature. Tantra is based on the philosophy of

self realization. Maaran (killing some one), stambhan (stopping or

paralyzing the activities of others), ucchatan (trying to manipulate

the interests and inclinations of others) vashikaran (controlling

others for selfish ends) etc are also called abhichaar karma and not

respected. This is the path of greed and may lead to doom. When a

sadhak gives up the attachment and the desire to indulge in abhichar

karma, the sadhak is able to conquer his five senses. By just desire

he is able to attain the knowledge of anything and everything on

earth and all truths reveal themselves to him.)

 

I think that answers it all! So selfishness is not the goal of

tantra. As is usually misinterpreted and this explains the use of

things otherwise forbidden in religion.