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, "astraea2003" <astraea2003>

wrote:

Namaste Chris,

More info on the Gayatri:

On pages 132 to 137 of Robert Svoboda's "Aghora II: Kundalini", the

Aghori Vimalananda discusses the Gayatri mantra. According to V., the

Savitri Gayatri is NOT the true Gayatri nor is the form used for

visualization the true form of the true Gayatri. The true Gayatri is

NOT taught to the masses in Kali Yug, it's the mantra of Satya Yug

and only Rishis are allowed to chant it without wreaking havoc.

 

The true Gayatri is so powerful that even one syllable of the true

Gayatri will kill most people -- it channels so much energy. Then

Vimalananda goes on to tell of how one of his students (children)

nagged him until V. gave in and gave him one syllable of the true

Gayatri. V. told this man (who had already done plenty of sadhana) to

take this one syllable and chant it only eleven (11) times a day.

 

The student (greedy for realization) chanted it 108 times. The

student realized himself to be Narayana and his wife as Lakshmi after

that one mala, but then he went into the bathroom. He stayed in the

bathroom so long that his wife became frightened and asked the

neighbors to break down the door. They found him with his head under

the faucet of running water. His head was so overheated by the power

of that one syllable. He died shortly thereafter. But he did receive

moksha, just prematurely.

 

Interesting story. In any case, according to Vimalananda the True

Gayatri is unpublished and only given by Satgurus to the most

advanced chelas and rarely at that.

 

So I'm putting away my desire for the Savitri Gayatri. I think it's

more appropriate for me to start with a simple Saraswati mantra.

 

Astraea

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dear sadhaks and shishyas,

 

i dont think the word received moksha

prematurely is a right word.when u say "he died but received moksha

prematurely" it dosent sound right.bcos moksha means complete freedom

and where there is complete freedom a being cannot die.moksha depends

on a mans yearning and will.if it is given by nature or by maturity

then moksha is not possible et all.the only maturity is his

will.being strong willed is the whole eccence of sadhana by which one

takes he great leap of nirvana.

 

i may not be completely right please comment

jai gurudev

 

 

, "Srinath Ram" <srinath_atreya>

wrote:

> , "astraea2003"

<astraea2003>

> wrote:

> Namaste Chris,

> More info on the Gayatri:

> On pages 132 to 137 of Robert Svoboda's "Aghora II: Kundalini", the

> Aghori Vimalananda discusses the Gayatri mantra. According to V.,

the

> Savitri Gayatri is NOT the true Gayatri nor is the form used for

> visualization the true form of the true Gayatri. The true Gayatri

is

> NOT taught to the masses in Kali Yug, it's the mantra of Satya Yug

> and only Rishis are allowed to chant it without wreaking havoc.

>

> The true Gayatri is so powerful that even one syllable of the true

> Gayatri will kill most people -- it channels so much energy. Then

> Vimalananda goes on to tell of how one of his students (children)

> nagged him until V. gave in and gave him one syllable of the true

> Gayatri. V. told this man (who had already done plenty of sadhana)

to

> take this one syllable and chant it only eleven (11) times a day.

>

> The student (greedy for realization) chanted it 108 times. The

> student realized himself to be Narayana and his wife as Lakshmi

after

> that one mala, but then he went into the bathroom. He stayed in the

> bathroom so long that his wife became frightened and asked the

> neighbors to break down the door. They found him with his head

under

> the faucet of running water. His head was so overheated by the

power

> of that one syllable. He died shortly thereafter. But he did

receive

> moksha, just prematurely.

>

> Interesting story. In any case, according to Vimalananda the True

> Gayatri is unpublished and only given by Satgurus to the most

> advanced chelas and rarely at that.

>

> So I'm putting away my desire for the Savitri Gayatri. I think it's

> more appropriate for me to start with a simple Saraswati mantra.

>

> Astraea

> --- End forwarded message ---

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Dear All,

 

Pls realise one thing. Either Vimalananda conned Svoboda or Svoboda

has conned his readers. A mantra works only in its totality. One

syllable wont kill any one. There are only 41 syllables (Bijas) in

Sanskrit. Pls try repeating each one of them if you like I assure you

u wont become narayana.

i have wondered about that part of svoboda's book and can only come

to the conclusion that it has been included for sensationalism.

Please use your common sense before believing something.

 

Regards,

 

Venkat

 

 

, "aditya" <tantrasiddhi> wrote:

> dear sadhaks and shishyas,

>

> i dont think the word received moksha

> prematurely is a right word.when u say "he died but received moksha

> prematurely" it dosent sound right.bcos moksha means complete

freedom

> and where there is complete freedom a being cannot die.moksha

depends

> on a mans yearning and will.if it is given by nature or by maturity

> then moksha is not possible et all.the only maturity is his

> will.being strong willed is the whole eccence of sadhana by which

one

> takes he great leap of nirvana.

>

> i may not be completely right please comment

> jai gurudev

>

>

> , "Srinath Ram"

<srinath_atreya>

> wrote:

> > , "astraea2003"

> <astraea2003>

> > wrote:

> > Namaste Chris,

> > More info on the Gayatri:

> > On pages 132 to 137 of Robert Svoboda's "Aghora II: Kundalini",

the

> > Aghori Vimalananda discusses the Gayatri mantra. According to V.,

> the

> > Savitri Gayatri is NOT the true Gayatri nor is the form used for

> > visualization the true form of the true Gayatri. The true Gayatri

> is

> > NOT taught to the masses in Kali Yug, it's the mantra of Satya

Yug

> > and only Rishis are allowed to chant it without wreaking havoc.

> >

> > The true Gayatri is so powerful that even one syllable of the

true

> > Gayatri will kill most people -- it channels so much energy. Then

> > Vimalananda goes on to tell of how one of his students (children)

> > nagged him until V. gave in and gave him one syllable of the true

> > Gayatri. V. told this man (who had already done plenty of

sadhana)

> to

> > take this one syllable and chant it only eleven (11) times a day.

> >

> > The student (greedy for realization) chanted it 108 times. The

> > student realized himself to be Narayana and his wife as Lakshmi

> after

> > that one mala, but then he went into the bathroom. He stayed in

the

> > bathroom so long that his wife became frightened and asked the

> > neighbors to break down the door. They found him with his head

> under

> > the faucet of running water. His head was so overheated by the

> power

> > of that one syllable. He died shortly thereafter. But he did

> receive

> > moksha, just prematurely.

> >

> > Interesting story. In any case, according to Vimalananda the True

> > Gayatri is unpublished and only given by Satgurus to the most

> > advanced chelas and rarely at that.

> >

> > So I'm putting away my desire for the Savitri Gayatri. I think

it's

> > more appropriate for me to start with a simple Saraswati mantra.

> >

> > Astraea

> > --- End forwarded message ---

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Dear Venkat,

Firstly the beeja is not necessarily a single beeja of

sankrit aplphabet. it might be a combination like hasrouunnmyyy....so

that part of your argument is wrong. I think vimalananda dint give

the gayathri to the guy but some other mantra(if i remember right,

correct me if im wrong) ...but what he says he correct the original

gayathri mantra is with very few people. i have cross verified it

with some siddhas i telepathically contact. there is a gayathri for

sathya yuga which was the original. and the mantra is a very powerful

one.however i dont know whether one syllable can do such things.

maybe the whole mantra and the vislauisation will bring in lot of

energy. it was not written for sensationalism. svoboda will be kicked

in the butt of vimalanda. i know vimalananda through my aghori guru.

he was a very angry and quixotical person.

so long,

Dattu

 

 

, "Venkat" <vvenkat111> wrote:

>

>

> Dear All,

>

> Pls realise one thing. Either Vimalananda conned Svoboda or Svoboda

> has conned his readers. A mantra works only in its totality. One

> syllable wont kill any one. There are only 41 syllables (Bijas) in

> Sanskrit. Pls try repeating each one of them if you like I assure

you

> u wont become narayana.

> i have wondered about that part of svoboda's book and can only come

> to the conclusion that it has been included for sensationalism.

> Please use your common sense before believing something.

>

> Regards,

>

> Venkat

>

>

> , "aditya" <tantrasiddhi> wrote:

> > dear sadhaks and shishyas,

> >

> > i dont think the word received moksha

> > prematurely is a right word.when u say "he died but received

moksha

> > prematurely" it dosent sound right.bcos moksha means complete

> freedom

> > and where there is complete freedom a being cannot die.moksha

> depends

> > on a mans yearning and will.if it is given by nature or by

maturity

> > then moksha is not possible et all.the only maturity is his

> > will.being strong willed is the whole eccence of sadhana by which

> one

> > takes he great leap of nirvana.

> >

> > i may not be completely right please comment

> > jai gurudev

> >

> >

> > , "Srinath Ram"

> <srinath_atreya>

> > wrote:

> > > , "astraea2003"

> > <astraea2003>

> > > wrote:

> > > Namaste Chris,

> > > More info on the Gayatri:

> > > On pages 132 to 137 of Robert Svoboda's "Aghora II: Kundalini",

> the

> > > Aghori Vimalananda discusses the Gayatri mantra. According to

V.,

> > the

> > > Savitri Gayatri is NOT the true Gayatri nor is the form used

for

> > > visualization the true form of the true Gayatri. The true

Gayatri

> > is

> > > NOT taught to the masses in Kali Yug, it's the mantra of Satya

> Yug

> > > and only Rishis are allowed to chant it without wreaking havoc.

> > >

> > > The true Gayatri is so powerful that even one syllable of the

> true

> > > Gayatri will kill most people -- it channels so much energy.

Then

> > > Vimalananda goes on to tell of how one of his students

(children)

> > > nagged him until V. gave in and gave him one syllable of the

true

> > > Gayatri. V. told this man (who had already done plenty of

> sadhana)

> > to

> > > take this one syllable and chant it only eleven (11) times a

day.

> > >

> > > The student (greedy for realization) chanted it 108 times. The

> > > student realized himself to be Narayana and his wife as Lakshmi

> > after

> > > that one mala, but then he went into the bathroom. He stayed in

> the

> > > bathroom so long that his wife became frightened and asked the

> > > neighbors to break down the door. They found him with his head

> > under

> > > the faucet of running water. His head was so overheated by the

> > power

> > > of that one syllable. He died shortly thereafter. But he did

> > receive

> > > moksha, just prematurely.

> > >

> > > Interesting story. In any case, according to Vimalananda the

True

> > > Gayatri is unpublished and only given by Satgurus to the most

> > > advanced chelas and rarely at that.

> > >

> > > So I'm putting away my desire for the Savitri Gayatri. I think

> it's

> > > more appropriate for me to start with a simple Saraswati mantra.

> > >

> > > Astraea

> > > --- End forwarded message ---

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Regards,

TantrixVenkat <vvenkat111 > wrote:

Dear All,Pls realise one thing. Either Vimalananda conned Svoboda or Svoboda has

conned his readers. A mantra works only in its totality. One syllable wont kill

any one. There are only 41 syllables (Bijas) in Sanskrit. Pls try repeating

each one of them if you like I assure you u wont become narayana. i have

wondered about that part of svoboda's book and can only come to the conclusion

that it has been included for sensationalism. Please use your common sense

before believing something.Regards,Venkat,

"aditya" <tantrasiddhi> wrote:> dear sadhaks and shishyas,> >

i dont think the word received

moksha > prematurely is a right word.when u say "he died but received moksha >

prematurely" it dosent sound right.bcos moksha means complete freedom > and

where there is complete freedom a being cannot die.moksha depends > on a mans

yearning and will.if it is given by nature or by maturity > then moksha is not

possible et all.the only maturity is his > will.being strong willed is the

whole eccence of sadhana by which one > takes he great leap of nirvana.> > i

may not be completely right please comment > jai gurudev > > > --- In

, "Srinath Ram" <srinath_atreya> > wrote:> > ---

In , "astraea2003" > <astraea2003> > > wrote:>

> Namaste Chris,> > More info on the Gayatri:> > On pages 132 to 137 of Robert

Svoboda's "Aghora II:

Kundalini", the > > Aghori Vimalananda discusses the Gayatri mantra. According

to V., > the > > Savitri Gayatri is NOT the true Gayatri nor is the form used

for > > visualization the true form of the true Gayatri. The true Gayatri > is

> > NOT taught to the masses in Kali Yug, it's the mantra of Satya Yug > > and

only Rishis are allowed to chant it without wreaking havoc.> > > > The true

Gayatri is so powerful that even one syllable of the true > > Gayatri will kill

most people -- it channels so much energy. Then > > Vimalananda goes on to tell

of how one of his students (children) > > nagged him until V. gave in and gave

him one syllable of the true > > Gayatri. V. told this man (who had already

done plenty of sadhana) > to > > take this one syllable and chant it only

eleven (11) times a day. > > > > The

student (greedy for realization) chanted it 108 times. The > > student realized

himself to be Narayana and his wife as Lakshmi > after > > that one mala, but

then he went into the bathroom. He stayed in the > > bathroom so long that his

wife became frightened and asked the > > neighbors to break down the door. They

found him with his head > under > > the faucet of running water. His head was so

overheated by the > power > > of that one syllable. He died shortly thereafter.

But he did > receive > > moksha, just prematurely.> > > > Interesting story. In

any case, according to Vimalananda the True > > Gayatri is unpublished and only

given by Satgurus to the most > > advanced chelas and rarely at that. > > > >

So I'm putting away my desire for the Savitri Gayatri. I think it's > > more

appropriate for me to start

with a simple Saraswati mantra.> > > > Astraea> > --- End forwarded message

---Jay Gurudev

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Hi,

 

I believe that a mantra is not just a syllable. The effect that a

mantra can have on a person depends on many factors and we cannot

generalize things. Firstly, i think the mantra received by a guru is

charged with shakti, the more powerful the guru, the more powerful the

mantra. Its much more difficult to reach any success in japa from a

mantra one has not been given by a guru. I m not saying that its

impossible, its just very difficult. The easy way, is to get the

mantra from a guru. Another factor to consider is the fact that each

person has its own samskaras in sadhana. If you spend some lifetimes

practicing a mantra, in your current incarnation, the mantra will

surely have a different effect on you that on someone who is just

starting. So you might even become narayana if you did enough in your

past births :)). Never say never....

 

I am sure mantras work with energy and their goal is to awaken the

kundalini. And a kundalini that awakens in an unprepared body can

cause problems.

 

Last but not least and regarding the secret Gayatri, I have read from

different sources that there are secret mantras in the astral areas,

so I wouldnt be surprised if there is another secret version of

gayatri mantra.

 

 

 

 

> Dear All,

>

> Pls realise one thing. Either Vimalananda conned Svoboda or Svoboda

> has conned his readers. A mantra works only in its totality. One

> syllable wont kill any one. There are only 41 syllables (Bijas) in

> Sanskrit. Pls try repeating each one of them if you like I assure

you

> u wont become narayana.

> i have wondered about that part of svoboda's book and can only come

> to the conclusion that it has been included for sensationalism.

> Please use your common sense before believing something.

>

> Regards,

>

> Venkat

>

>

> , "aditya" <tantrasiddhi> wrote:

> > dear sadhaks and shishyas,

> >

> > i dont think the word received moksha

> > prematurely is a right word.when u say "he died but received

moksha

> > prematurely" it dosent sound right.bcos moksha means complete

> freedom

> > and where there is complete freedom a being cannot die.moksha

> depends

> > on a mans yearning and will.if it is given by nature or by

maturity

> > then moksha is not possible et all.the only maturity is his

> > will.being strong willed is the whole eccence of sadhana by which

> one

> > takes he great leap of nirvana.

> >

> > i may not be completely right please comment

> > jai gurudev

> >

> >

> > , "Srinath Ram"

> <srinath_atreya>

> > wrote:

> > > , "astraea2003"

> > <astraea2003>

> > > wrote:

> > > Namaste Chris,

> > > More info on the Gayatri:

> > > On pages 132 to 137 of Robert Svoboda's "Aghora II: Kundalini",

> the

> > > Aghori Vimalananda discusses the Gayatri mantra. According to V.

,

> > the

> > > Savitri Gayatri is NOT the true Gayatri nor is the form used for

> > > visualization the true form of the true Gayatri. The true

Gayatri

> > is

> > > NOT taught to the masses in Kali Yug, it's the mantra of Satya

> Yug

> > > and only Rishis are allowed to chant it without wreaking havoc.

> > >

> > > The true Gayatri is so powerful that even one syllable of the

> true

> > > Gayatri will kill most people -- it channels so much energy.

Then

> > > Vimalananda goes on to tell of how one of his students

(children)

> > > nagged him until V. gave in and gave him one syllable of the

true

> > > Gayatri. V. told this man (who had already done plenty of

> sadhana)

> > to

> > > take this one syllable and chant it only eleven (11) times a

day.

> > >

> > > The student (greedy for realization) chanted it 108 times. The

> > > student realized himself to be Narayana and his wife as Lakshmi

> > after

> > > that one mala, but then he went into the bathroom. He stayed in

> the

> > > bathroom so long that his wife became frightened and asked the

> > > neighbors to break down the door. They found him with his head

> > under

> > > the faucet of running water. His head was so overheated by the

> > power

> > > of that one syllable. He died shortly thereafter. But he did

> > receive

> > > moksha, just prematurely.

> > >

> > > Interesting story. In any case, according to Vimalananda the

True

> > > Gayatri is unpublished and only given by Satgurus to the most

> > > advanced chelas and rarely at that.

> > >

> > > So I'm putting away my desire for the Savitri Gayatri. I think

> it's

> > > more appropriate for me to start with a simple Saraswati mantra.

> > >

> > > Astraea

> > > --- End forwarded message ---

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