yakshinis are not that bad!!!

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, dhiraj sharma <dhiraj4uonly> wrote:> in my

view yakshini is like any other devi, so one need not to be frighten. although

the presence of a guru during any sadhana helps a lot...but where it is not

available shud we abandon the idea of doing sadhna? i think no. you shud do

this sadhna, it is not that risky as people think. any sadhak if he has love

and devotion for the deity will overcome all the problems, if any. bye.--- In

, dhiraj sharma <dhiraj4uonly> wrote:> in my view

yakshini is like any other devi, so one need not to be frighten. although the

presence of a guru during any sadhana helps a lot...but where it is not

available shud we abandon the idea of doing sadhna? i think no. you shud do

this sadhna, it is not that risky as people think. any sadhak if he has love

and devotion for the deity will overcome all the problems,

if any. bye.>>>>>>>reply>>>>>>yakshini sadhana may be ugra but many sadhakas

have successfuly done it.there is one boy in my village who was a rank holder

in state but went mad for a while when he disturbed a vatavasini yakshini when

he climbed a very old tree in a forest and it tried to get hold of him.he could

never cut his hair after that as soon as he gets inside the saloon his head

starts to shake voilently and he goes running towards home no one knew whats

happening to him he started to behave in a strange way.they put him to mental

hospital where doctors themselves gave up and told his parents to take him to

dharmastala temple[south canara district in karnataka] a place where lord shiva

is established and a center of shiva ganas.there his parents came to know that

it was yakshini who was causing all the trouble.when they contacted the

yakshini by the medium in the temple it said

that it will help him and it can guide people through him.but the boy told that

he will wear slippers,get a hair cut ,and eat in hotels even after it possesses

him the yakshini agreed to all the conditions but............now he dosent get a

hair cut,and cant wear shoes or chappals.........this makes me think that

yakshini is using him.and i think there is some secret with not allowing his

hair to be cut. his looks have become very very very girlish and a attractive

red tinge shows on his face.now he can predict the past and free people from

bhootha baadha.but he failed to remove a powerful blackmagic effect done on my

uncles house.i know another person who has yakshini siddhi. A snake came and

wound around him when he was a kid then after he got married he had to undergo

many operations in various parts of his body.when consulted a tantrik he said

that he should not be leading a "normal grihasta life" anymore and

the naaga-yakshini was responsible to that.he too can predict past with the help

of the yakshini.and there are some soumya yakshinis as well like dhanadaa rati

priya yakshini which is the tantrokt form of godess lakshmii dont think that it

is not like any other devi.if it was reeally a devi why should it trouble so

mercilessly.gurudev has said that "bramhand se kehdo bhakti nahi sadhana

chahiiye".love and devotion can be explained as "shradda" in tantra sadhana i

guess.there is another instance of a yakshini encounter posted by a gurubhai

cybersanyasi i think . iam not sure it was posted here or the mantra_tantra

group. if one has obtained the related diksha or has a strong and prabhal

personality then there is nothing to worry.jai gurudevsohamJay GurudevDear br,

the events cited by u...they dont show any sadhna efforts done by any devotee.

moreover they disturbed the 'yakshini'. i even doubt that they were

yakshinis..u know all this is very very complex...they might be some pretatmas

or bad souls. who knows? there are certain parts of the world where yakshinis

are worshipped like goddess durga. moreover, these devis they are available in

so many forms like mother, sister, lover etc. so depending upon ur intentions u

will get the results. to me, mother's form is the best and natural./

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with due regards to all yakshinis, naag, gandharvas etc --may i

remind you that human life is higher than that of these beings. why

do you want to leave durga and kali and worship a yakshini as a

mother? is it not unfortunate and a waste of life? a waste of being

given a chance to go up the elevator using chants -mantra, tantra

whatever.

 

why does anyone need any siddhis?

where will they take you and what will you do with them? with no

moral backing the power to hypnotise others for selfish gains will

take us to the doom.

 

also, this never ending and recurring quote of guruji said sadhana

is superior to bhakti and so bhakti si something to be despised or

some such thing which comes up in our group from time to time --

may i add a minor comment.

depending on our past karma both thought and actions we are given a

starting slate in this world. all of us possess some good qualities,

talents. A person can be born as a great orator , or with tremendous

magnetism, intelligence, beauty, great talent for an art music, a

brave warrior without ever hearing the word sadhana in their life.

 

similarly, all of us start with our own share od demons.

some are more jealous, more egotistical, lazy and given to smallness

of character. human beings are just simply gray. this is exactly

where sadhana comes is. sadhana is a way of obtaining what was not

yours, increasing the positive and driving away the negative. all of

us are born with 7 chakras in our body irrespective of the rot that

set into hinduism by selfish preists and has still not left fully.

there are no distictions on the basis of caste or sex. and sadhana

is for everyone.vit is path that will lead all to the supreme.

 

 

what guruji meant was that bhakti is not for everyone. It simply

cannot be. We human beings usually have a lot of selfishness,

cunningness whatever even when dealing with other human beings. This

same attitude is projected towards Gods -Oh gOd how beautiful is

your nose - please help me marry aishwarya rai. OR oh God, how

lovely are your eyes -please help we improve the sales of my shop.

this is not bhakti, as it is practiced. Bhakti in itself is a

supreme gift, the biggest blessing. And it is given only to the very

few fortunate ones. only one is a million is a Meera.There is

nothing wrong with bhakti, it is we who are incapable of it.

 

Guruji was not sneering at bhakti, he was telling us to walk the

path which works for everyone, not just the chosen few blessed with

pure emotions.

jaigurudev

bye for now and take care

 

anu

 

thanks to anurag for providing me the sadhans i was looking for,

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i must mention that using an id -devi_bhagat does not qualify me to

become bhakta either.

jaigurudev

anu

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i do appreciate and believe myself whatever u have written. yakshinis are surely

not better than the forms of maa durgaa. why to choose glass when u have

diamond. let me make it clear, the matter of yakshinis arose b'coz of a query

posted on the group, the guy was afraid...that's why yakshinis were highlighted

not because they possess certain high attributes.

good thinking, pl. keep it up.devi_bhagat <devi_bhagat > wrote:

with due regards to all yakshinis, naag, gandharvas etc --may i remind you that

human life is higher than that of these beings. why do you want to leave durga

and kali and worship a yakshini as a mother? is it not unfortunate and a waste

of life? a waste of being given a chance to go up the elevator using chants

-mantra, tantra whatever. why does anyone need any siddhis? where will they

take you and what will you do with them? with no moral backing the power to

hypnotise others for selfish gains will take us to the doom.also, this never

ending and recurring quote of guruji said sadhana is superior to bhakti and so

bhakti si something to be despised or some such thing which comes up in our

group from time to time -- may i add a minor comment. depending on our past

karma both thought and actions we are given a

starting slate in this world. all of us possess some good qualities, talents. A

person can be born as a great orator , or with tremendous magnetism,

intelligence, beauty, great talent for an art music, a brave warrior without

ever hearing the word sadhana in their life.similarly, all of us start with our

own share od demons.some are more jealous, more egotistical, lazy and given to

smallness of character. human beings are just simply gray. this is exactly

where sadhana comes is. sadhana is a way of obtaining what was not yours,

increasing the positive and driving away the negative. all of us are born with

7 chakras in our body irrespective of the rot that set into hinduism by selfish

preists and has still not left fully. there are no distictions on the basis of

caste or sex. and sadhana is for everyone.vit is path that will lead all to the

supreme.what guruji meant was that bhakti is not for everyone. It simply

cannot be. We human beings usually have a lot of selfishness, cunningness

whatever even when dealing with other human beings. This same attitude is

projected towards Gods -Oh gOd how beautiful is your nose - please help me

marry aishwarya rai. OR oh God, how lovely are your eyes -please help we

improve the sales of my shop. this is not bhakti, as it is practiced. Bhakti in

itself is a supreme gift, the biggest blessing. And it is given only to the very

few fortunate ones. only one is a million is a Meera.There is nothing wrong with

bhakti, it is we who are incapable of it. Guruji was not sneering at bhakti, he

was telling us to walk the path which works for everyone, not just the chosen

few blessed with pure emotions.jaigurudevbye for now and take careanuthanks to

anurag for providing me the sadhans i was looking for, Jay Gurudev/

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Sister Anu

 

I appreciate the points you have mentioned. But may I add my own

perception on what was said by Guruji.

All that Guruji mentioned when he said go for Sadhanas is work

and acquire what you desire and what makes sense to you at this

moment. One may like to be rich. Another to be famous. The third

person may want to be a succesful business man or a film actor.

Everything is possible and there is nothing wrong with a healthy

desire because that is what drives a human being. Anyone can be

succesful in his ambition wihtout harming others and through

spiritual training and discipline which is what acquiring something

through Sadhana.

As far Bhaktas like Meera, Surdas or Poonthanam they too had been

good Sadhaks but they have realised that whatever we get in material

World once it becomes ours we lose interest in that after a short

period. Therefore they lived in their own world which made sense to

them but at the sametime did Sadhanas for others in an unselfish

manner. All I have said can be summarized as " Before sharing, on

should possess and once a person feels he has got something, he will

willingly share it with others".

Jai Gurudev,

 

Mahadevan Venkitaraman

 

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat>

wrote:

> with due regards to all yakshinis, naag, gandharvas etc --may i

> remind you that human life is higher than that of these beings. why

> do you want to leave durga and kali and worship a yakshini as a

> mother? is it not unfortunate and a waste of life? a waste of being

> given a chance to go up the elevator using chants -mantra, tantra

> whatever.

>

> why does anyone need any siddhis?

> where will they take you and what will you do with them? with no

> moral backing the power to hypnotise others for selfish gains will

> take us to the doom.

>

> also, this never ending and recurring quote of guruji said sadhana

> is superior to bhakti and so bhakti si something to be despised or

> some such thing which comes up in our group from time to time --

> may i add a minor comment.

> depending on our past karma both thought and actions we are given a

> starting slate in this world. all of us possess some good

qualities,

> talents. A person can be born as a great orator , or with

tremendous

> magnetism, intelligence, beauty, great talent for an art music, a

> brave warrior without ever hearing the word sadhana in their life.

>

> similarly, all of us start with our own share od demons.

> some are more jealous, more egotistical, lazy and given to

smallness

> of character. human beings are just simply gray. this is exactly

> where sadhana comes is. sadhana is a way of obtaining what was not

> yours, increasing the positive and driving away the negative. all

of

> us are born with 7 chakras in our body irrespective of the rot that

> set into hinduism by selfish preists and has still not left fully.

> there are no distictions on the basis of caste or sex. and sadhana

> is for everyone.vit is path that will lead all to the supreme.

>

>

> what guruji meant was that bhakti is not for everyone. It simply

> cannot be. We human beings usually have a lot of selfishness,

> cunningness whatever even when dealing with other human beings.

This

> same attitude is projected towards Gods -Oh gOd how beautiful is

> your nose - please help me marry aishwarya rai. OR oh God, how

> lovely are your eyes -please help we improve the sales of my shop.

> this is not bhakti, as it is practiced. Bhakti in itself is a

> supreme gift, the biggest blessing. And it is given only to the

very

> few fortunate ones. only one is a million is a Meera.There is

> nothing wrong with bhakti, it is we who are incapable of it.

>

> Guruji was not sneering at bhakti, he was telling us to walk the

> path which works for everyone, not just the chosen few blessed with

> pure emotions.

> jaigurudev

> bye for now and take care

>

> anu

>

> thanks to anurag for providing me the sadhans i was looking for,

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mahadevan ji,

what you said is perhaps indeed correct. sadhaks and bhaktas are not

not mutually exclusive sets. And indeed it is great idea depending

on capacity and inclination to mix the two. Sadhana is indeed a

powerful means to gain what is not ours materially and spiritually.

in the short while i have been practicing, i have noticed that my

own perspective of situations has changed, and i am able to see

through my own mind games, and not only through those of others as

earlier. it is welcome change, towards self correction.

 

thank you

jai gurudev

anu

ps: today is dhoomavati siddhi divas

paush shukla pancham is bagala

and then i think krsihna tryitiya is matangi siddhi diwas.

searching for a message called siddhashram panchang will give more

details. meanwhile, i am trying to do some sadhanas -they are

helping, and do not wish too be a slave once again to my incessant

incoherent chatter.

 

besides paush navrati start

sadghaks, In , "mahadevanv"

<mahadevanv> wrote:

> Sister Anu

>

> I appreciate the points you have mentioned. But may I add my

own

> perception on what was said by Guruji.

> All that Guruji mentioned when he said go for Sadhanas is work

> and acquire what you desire and what makes sense to you at this

> moment. One may like to be rich. Another to be famous. The third

> person may want to be a succesful business man or a film actor.

> Everything is possible and there is nothing wrong with a healthy

> desire because that is what drives a human being. Anyone can be

> succesful in his ambition wihtout harming others and through

> spiritual training and discipline which is what acquiring

something

> through Sadhana.

> As far Bhaktas like Meera, Surdas or Poonthanam they too had

been

> good Sadhaks but they have realised that whatever we get in

material

> World once it becomes ours we lose interest in that after a short

> period. Therefore they lived in their own world which made sense

to

> them but at the sametime did Sadhanas for others in an unselfish

> manner. All I have said can be summarized as " Before sharing, on

> should possess and once a person feels he has got something, he

will

> willingly share it with others".

> Jai Gurudev,

>

> Mahadevan Venkitaraman

>

> , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat>

> wrote:

> > with due regards to all yakshinis, naag, gandharvas etc --may i

> > remind you that human life is higher than that of these beings.

why

> > do you want to leave durga and kali and worship a yakshini as a

> > mother? is it not unfortunate and a waste of life? a waste of

being

> > given a chance to go up the elevator using chants -mantra,

tantra

> > whatever.

> >

> > why does anyone need any siddhis?

> > where will they take you and what will you do with them? with no

> > moral backing the power to hypnotise others for selfish gains

will

> > take us to the doom.

> >

> > also, this never ending and recurring quote of guruji said

sadhana

> > is superior to bhakti and so bhakti si something to be despised

or

> > some such thing which comes up in our group from time to time --

> > may i add a minor comment.

> > depending on our past karma both thought and actions we are

given a

> > starting slate in this world. all of us possess some good

> qualities,

> > talents. A person can be born as a great orator , or with

> tremendous

> > magnetism, intelligence, beauty, great talent for an art music,

a

> > brave warrior without ever hearing the word sadhana in their

life.

> >

> > similarly, all of us start with our own share od demons.

> > some are more jealous, more egotistical, lazy and given to

> smallness

> > of character. human beings are just simply gray. this is exactly

> > where sadhana comes is. sadhana is a way of obtaining what was

not

> > yours, increasing the positive and driving away the negative.

all

> of

> > us are born with 7 chakras in our body irrespective of the rot

that

> > set into hinduism by selfish preists and has still not left

fully.

> > there are no distictions on the basis of caste or sex. and

sadhana

> > is for everyone.vit is path that will lead all to the supreme.

> >

> >

> > what guruji meant was that bhakti is not for everyone. It simply

> > cannot be. We human beings usually have a lot of selfishness,

> > cunningness whatever even when dealing with other human beings.

> This

> > same attitude is projected towards Gods -Oh gOd how beautiful is

> > your nose - please help me marry aishwarya rai. OR oh God, how

> > lovely are your eyes -please help we improve the sales of my

shop.

> > this is not bhakti, as it is practiced. Bhakti in itself is a

> > supreme gift, the biggest blessing. And it is given only to the

> very

> > few fortunate ones. only one is a million is a Meera.There is

> > nothing wrong with bhakti, it is we who are incapable of it.

> >

> > Guruji was not sneering at bhakti, he was telling us to walk the

> > path which works for everyone, not just the chosen few blessed

with

> > pure emotions.

> > jaigurudev

> > bye for now and take care

> >

> > anu

> >

> > thanks to anurag for providing me the sadhans i was looking for,

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Om Shree Matre Namaha,

Please note that yakshinis are not safe as you may think. They may

give you enough fantasies, but there are many conditions to it and if

unfulfilled, they have the power to consume the sadhak itself. My

sincere advise is to take the help of Gods and Goddesses and not

other forms. Yakshinis if unsatisfied can even trouble the sadhaks

family too. Please heed the advise of Guruji.

 

Raj

 

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat>

wrote:

> with due regards to all yakshinis, naag, gandharvas etc --may i

> remind you that human life is higher than that of these beings. why

> do you want to leave durga and kali and worship a yakshini as a

> mother? is it not unfortunate and a waste of life? a waste of being

> given a chance to go up the elevator using chants -mantra, tantra

> whatever.

>

> why does anyone need any siddhis?

> where will they take you and what will you do with them? with no

> moral backing the power to hypnotise others for selfish gains will

> take us to the doom.

>

> also, this never ending and recurring quote of guruji said sadhana

> is superior to bhakti and so bhakti si something to be despised or

> some such thing which comes up in our group from time to time --

> may i add a minor comment.

> depending on our past karma both thought and actions we are given a

> starting slate in this world. all of us possess some good

qualities,

> talents. A person can be born as a great orator , or with

tremendous

> magnetism, intelligence, beauty, great talent for an art music, a

> brave warrior without ever hearing the word sadhana in their life.

>

> similarly, all of us start with our own share od demons.

> some are more jealous, more egotistical, lazy and given to

smallness

> of character. human beings are just simply gray. this is exactly

> where sadhana comes is. sadhana is a way of obtaining what was not

> yours, increasing the positive and driving away the negative. all

of

> us are born with 7 chakras in our body irrespective of the rot that

> set into hinduism by selfish preists and has still not left fully.

> there are no distictions on the basis of caste or sex. and sadhana

> is for everyone.vit is path that will lead all to the supreme.

>

>

> what guruji meant was that bhakti is not for everyone. It simply

> cannot be. We human beings usually have a lot of selfishness,

> cunningness whatever even when dealing with other human beings.

This

> same attitude is projected towards Gods -Oh gOd how beautiful is

> your nose - please help me marry aishwarya rai. OR oh God, how

> lovely are your eyes -please help we improve the sales of my shop.

> this is not bhakti, as it is practiced. Bhakti in itself is a

> supreme gift, the biggest blessing. And it is given only to the

very

> few fortunate ones. only one is a million is a Meera.There is

> nothing wrong with bhakti, it is we who are incapable of it.

>

> Guruji was not sneering at bhakti, he was telling us to walk the

> path which works for everyone, not just the chosen few blessed with

> pure emotions.

> jaigurudev

> bye for now and take care

>

> anu

>

> thanks to anurag for providing me the sadhans i was looking for,

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with due regards to all yakshinis, naag, gandharvas etc --may i

remind you that human life is higher than that of these beings. why

do you want to leave durga and kali and worship a yakshini as a

mother? is it not unfortunate and a waste of life? a waste of being

given a chance to go up the elevator using chants -mantra, tantra

whatever.

 

why does anyone need any siddhis?

where will they take you and what will you do with them? with no

moral backing the power to hypnotise others for selfish gains will

take us to the doom.

 

also, this never ending and recurring quote of guruji said sadhana

is superior to bhakti and so bhakti si something to be despised or

some such thing which comes up in our group from time to time --

may i add a minor comment.

depending on our past karma both thought and actions we are given a

starting slate in this world. all of us possess some good qualities,

talents. A person can be born as a great orator , or with tremendous

magnetism, intelligence, beauty, great talent for an art music, a

brave warrior without ever hearing the word sadhana in their life.

 

similarly, all of us start with our own share od demons.

some are more jealous, more egotistical, lazy and given to smallness

of character. human beings are just simply gray. this is exactly

where sadhana comes is. sadhana is a way of obtaining what was not

yours, increasing the positive and driving away the negative. all of

us are born with 7 chakras in our body irrespective of the rot that

set into hinduism by selfish preists and has still not left fully.

there are no distictions on the basis of caste or sex. and sadhana

is for everyone.vit is path that will lead all to the supreme.

 

 

what guruji meant was that bhakti is not for everyone. It simply

cannot be. We human beings usually have a lot of selfishness,

cunningness whatever even when dealing with other human beings. This

same attitude is projected towards Gods -Oh gOd how beautiful is

your nose - please help me marry aishwarya rai. OR oh God, how

lovely are your eyes -please help we improve the sales of my shop.

this is not bhakti, as it is practiced. Bhakti in itself is a

supreme gift, the biggest blessing. And it is given only to the very

few fortunate ones. only one is a million is a Meera.There is

nothing wrong with bhakti, it is we who are incapable of it.

 

Guruji was not sneering at bhakti, he was telling us to walk the

path which works for everyone, not just the chosen few blessed with

pure emotions.

jaigurudev

bye for now and take care

 

anu

 

thanks to anurag for providing me the sadhans i was looking for,