Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 God is doing everything for us. As a matter of fact. Its not god, but the GURU. Even gods need guru. All of us are gods. What we have achieved as gods in the past thousands of years porrves that. Rama and Krishna also incarnated as humans - but we gave them the position of god - a simple example that there are gods amongst us and we too are gods. Right from the birth of a child - where the mother and father are the gods to bring into the world a new life. The child grows up to be god for others. A complicated task simplified by an unknown person - that unknown person becomes a saviour for a lot of people. The person who invented the bulb to the person who invented the cellphone. All are gods. We are gods. To talk about lazyness - well its an imbibed human nature and all of us possess it. We are lazy to do some task or the other - or put otherwise - disinterested in doing a particular task. So it does not matter who is doing a sadhana. All are equal. Remember that the world is called a world cause it consists of all sorts of people. Our world would not be the same without people like Hitler or Gandhi. So we belong to a world which has "good and evil" again metaphors used by us as one mans food is another mans poison. So lets think beyond good, evil, lazyness and other properties of the human mind and look into the ever insightful GURU. No one has any right to tell others what to do and what not to do. Its the will of the self that drives a person to do a thing or to ask for a thing and the "self" is there is everyone -omnipresent: this is the guru in all of us. So listen to your self and trust in it. All your problems will be gone. - Thursday, December 25, 2003 7:39 am Digest Number 872 Thu, 25 Dec 2003 02:09:30 +0000 Digest Number 872 Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner Original-recipient: rfc822;vij_rekha There are 24 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Mauritius "JayShriShri" <jayshrishri 2. Re: Diksha of Maa Bgalamukhi "Dr.Dhiren Pania" <pania_dhirenm 3. Re: query "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat 4. Re: query "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat 5. Re: Re: query "Prakash" <vishwadev 6. RE: i am confused, subrat mohanty <subrat150 7. Re: hai "smashantara2001" <smashantara2001 8. Re: i am confused, "aditya" <tantrasiddhi 9. concentration prayog "aditya" <tantrasiddhi 10. Lazziness is curable!!! dhiraj sharma <dhiraj4uonly 11. Re: query "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti 12. Re: Lazziness is curable!!! "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti 13. debt "sita_12342000" <litepower2003 14. Re: Re: query "Prakash" <vishwadev 15. Re: debt "Prakash" <vishwadev 16. Re: debt "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti 17. Re: Re: Lazziness is curable!!! "Prakash" <vishwadev 18. Re: Lazziness is curable!!! "sri_valere" <sri_valere 19. Re: debt deep aditya reddy <aditya1900 20. regarding "URVASHI SADHNA" yashwant bisht <yashwant03 21. Re: Re: Lazziness is curable!!! Shrinivas Khate <srinivaskhet 22. Re: debt "aditya" <tantrasiddhi 23. Re: Lazziness is curable!!! "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat 24. Re: Re: hai(name of publisher") "Devesh Bhatia" <devesh9 ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:49:57 +0400 "JayShriShri" <jayshrishri Re: Mauritius To KumareeJi & Prakash Ji Note that Gurudev will meet the person first, advise him for some diksha and if the person wants some specific diksha then he may give. So not eveyone will get the same diksha. Jay Guudev - Kumari J Monday, December 22, 2003 9:17 PM Re: Mauritius Jay gurudev, i would like to know about the diksha ceremony scheduled for 24th and 25th december 2003. please give the time also and the different diksha gurudev will be giving. thanks jay gurudev kumaree Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Jay Gurudev / b.. c.. [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:20:32 +0000 (GMT) "Dr.Dhiren Pania" <pania_dhirenm Re: Diksha of Maa Bgalamukhi Dear All, Jai Gurudev, Can some one help or guide me in getting Diksha for Bagalamukhi Ma. Reagdrs dhiren India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more.Download now. [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:22:35 -0000 "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat Re: query --- Thank you very much for your comments. I am honored that GUrudev chose to speak to me in your voice when i was making amistake. thanks again. jai gurudev anu In , "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti> wrote: > Funny!!! Now, people need sadhana procedures for getting rid of > laziness. What would be next? Sadhana procedure for eating food, > drinking water and breathing? > > I am sorry for making fun of it. Get real, brother. God is not going > to do everything for you. You must do something for yourself. If you > are unable to get rid of laziness, you are not allowed to talk about > sadhana procedure. > > Tantra Shakti > mantra_tantra_yantra > > , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> > wrote: > > -- > > > > also gaurav, > > if you have any sadhan procedure for > > 1 improving concentration > > and > > 2 to get rid of laziness > > please let me know. > > > > > > and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last > > name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence? > > anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures. > > > > > > jaigurudev > > anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> > > wrote: > > > sure gaurav, > > > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please > mention > > > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time > etc. > > > > > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted > a > > > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will > > > check which mala i have. > > > thank you > > > jai gurudev > > > anu > > > -- > > > > > > - In , gaurav shrimali > > > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote: > > > > jay gurudev, > > > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya > > > saafalya > > > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting > successintantra > > > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp > > > > if u r intrested i will tell u process. > > > > gaurav > > > shrimali > > > > > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages > and > > > more.Download now. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:34:57 -0000 "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat Re: query Gaurav, I will specify again, that it is a pleasure that you are chosing to give us sadhana procedures, we otherwise would not have got. But, its just that only Gurudev can give sadhanas and mantras. Even in Gurudham except people like shahtri ji nobody is qualified to give sadhans and mantras and shatry ji does this by contacting Gurudev by telepathy. I myself can vouch on the power of the sadhans given through him. That is why here we always mention the source i.e. the exact issue of MTY or say the sadhana shivir in which the mantra, sadhana procedure was given to us. You mentioned somewhere that you need Gurudev's permission before revealing some sadhana. I asume by this statement that you are close to him. It may either be becuase you are related to him -- a wild guess because of your last name, or are an accomplished sadhak who can contact Gurudev anytime. I myself met such a sadhak who spoke to Gurudev every morning. You are doing all of us a favor and a service to Gurudev we are grateful for that. It will be nice to understand the source -thats all. It is totally up to you whether or not you wish to answer this. If not then, it is totally upto the people here whether they chose to practice what is given without quoting the excat source. I thank you wholeheartedly in advance if i forget to do that later -for the sadhanas you will so kindly type for me. good wishes, and may the common chord that binds us be stronger than the demons inside us in every form. jai gurudev anu > > and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last > > name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence? > > anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures. > > > > > > jaigurudev > > anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> > > wrote: > > > sure gaurav, > > > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please > mention > > > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time > etc. > > > > > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted > a > > > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will > > > check which mala i have. > > > thank you > > > jai gurudev > > > anu > > > -- > > > > > > - In , gaurav shrimali > > > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote: > > > > jay gurudev, > > > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya > > > saafalya > > > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting > successintantra > > > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp > > > > if u r intrested i will tell u process. > > > > gaurav > > > shrimali > > > > > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages > and > > > more.Download now. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:38:41 +0400 "Prakash" <vishwadev Re: Re: query Very Funny!!! If that man has the will to combat the laziness and is asking for help in that field then i think HE IS ALLOWED to talk sadhna procedure. It is a very easy thing to make fun of people and indeed some of our group members are experts in that. If you cannot help anybody then better not pose like an obstacle for a sain discussion. Now who invented the rule about who is allowed to talk about sadhna and who not? Tantra Shakti probably! Another thing "God is not going to do everything for you" well this statement is not justified as God is doing everything for us and will do everything for us always. Now, there are so many mantra and tantra, some of them given by Lord Shiva and others practiced and tested by our greta ancient sages. These mantras are used in petty matters as well as very complicated issues. If laziness is a problem then there is a solution. Get real brother, don't make fun, if you know too much and think it must be kept for yourself then you are most welcomed! regards, Prakash - tantra_shakti Monday, December 22, 2003 9:56 PM Re: query Funny!!! Now, people need sadhana procedures for getting rid of laziness. What would be next? Sadhana procedure for eating food, drinking water and breathing? I am sorry for making fun of it. Get real, brother. God is not going to do everything for you. You must do something for yourself. If you are unable to get rid of laziness, you are not allowed to talk about sadhana procedure. Tantra Shakti mantra_tantra_yantra , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote: > -- > > also gaurav, > if you have any sadhan procedure for > 1 improving concentration > and > 2 to get rid of laziness > please let me know. > > > and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last > name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence? > anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures. > > > jaigurudev > anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> > wrote: > > sure gaurav, > > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please mention > > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time etc. > > > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted a > > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will > > check which mala i have. > > thank you > > jai gurudev > > anu > > -- > > > > - In , gaurav shrimali > > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote: > > > jay gurudev, > > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya > > saafalya > > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra > > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp > > > if u r intrested i will tell u process. > > > gaurav > > shrimali > > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and > > more.Download now. Jay Gurudev Links / b.. c.. [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:52:50 -0800 (PST) subrat mohanty <subrat150 RE: i am confused, gaurav shrimali <gaurav_nikhil26 wrote: jay gurdev, dont fear about that and dont stop the mantra sadhanaas. gaurav shrimali India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. Download now. Jay Gurudev / Jai Gurudev. please accept my pranam. i have received gurudiksha recently & received the gurupitamber & guru mantra card yesterday & going to start my sadhna. but have not received any mala(rosary) to chant. is not it available with gurudiksha? where will i get this? also plz write in details about the benefits gurudiksha. i am also eager to receive dikshas like gyana diksha & kundalini jagarini diksha through photograph. how to get it? New Photos - easier uploading and sharing [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 00:03:30 -0000 "smashantara2001" <smashantara2001 Re: hai jay, hello, have you finished the book? What are your reactions to it. I read this book in 2001, hence my screen name, in Varanasi while making a pilgrimage to the burning ghats. The aghouri are still alive and well, and, for the most part holding on to their secrets. om namah shivaya , jay <sspmtyv> wrote: > > Hai all > > I am now adays reading a book on lefthand tantrism > > it is called "aghora at the left hand of god' and tells about the > > experiences of the aghori vimalanda,it is interesting and amazing (already birendra has posted abut ths i think) > > book tells his experiences with smashaan sadhanas,his vision of maa smashaan tara, his masters(whom he calls mentors),and yes alsoabout the real art of sex(concepts of vajroli and some mudras,eventhough not in detail),and what scared me was their way of doing sadhanas,in most of the sadhanas you have to go to cemetery (smashan)get a dead body and sit above the dead bdy and do the sadhana > > aghora as i understand is third of the five faces of lord shiva and it means which is deeper than the deep,fearless and all and is meant for guys and girls who have lot of guts > > i think the book is worth reading ,for those of you who are interested to know about vaamachar and to understand that truth is not just about feeling good,but much deeper than life itself > > Jay gurudev > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes ______________________ ______________________ Message: 8 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:23:09 -0000 "aditya" <tantrasiddhi Re: i am confused, dear subrath, u have to get the mala seperately the diksha mantras can be chanted with sphatik rosary,white hakeek or guru rahasya rosary for information on kundalini diksha u can contact(0291- 2432209,2433623),fax-0291-2432010 jodhpur gurudham by and ask about it. jai gurudev soham > Jai Gurudev. > > please accept my pranam. i have received gurudiksha recently & received the gurupitamber & guru mantra card yesterday & going to start my sadhna. but have not received any mala(rosary) to chant. is not it available with gurudiksha? where will i get this? also plz write in details about the benefits gurudiksha. i am also eager to receive dikshas like gyana diksha & kundalini jagarini diksha through photograph. how to get it? > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing ______________________ ______________________ Message: 9 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:13:35 -0000 "aditya" <tantrasiddhi concentration prayog a restless mind and a unconcentrated mind these terms look the same but there is a subtle difference between these two(translated from hindi mantra-t.....yantra magazine jan 2003) sadhana prayog for concentration material - 1 panch mukhi rudraksh sadhana time - monday early morning duration - 7 days make a swastik on a copper plate with kesar , place the panch mukhi rudraksh on it and recite the mantra 21 times mantra - om rudraaya manasaikagryam sthapanam om -om namah on the eight day wear the rusraksh on right arm or neck wear it for 21 days and after 21 days visarjith it in a shiva temple jai gurudev soham ______________________ ______________________ Message: 10 Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:13:45 -0800 (PST) dhiraj sharma <dhiraj4uonly Lazziness is curable!!! Although it is right that the individual with his own efforts can fight away with his laziness but as per astrology it is due to afflicted Rahu so daan and japa of rahu will overcome laziness and lethargy. I dont agree with the notion that god cannot help in overcoming laziness...god is the only source of energy required to fight with this evil habit. jai maa. Photos - Get your photo on the big screen in Times Square [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 11 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:14:09 -0000 "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti Re: query > If that man has the will to combat the > laziness and is asking for help in that > field then i think HE IS ALLOWED to talk > sadhna procedure. Will power is everything. Without will power, you can't properly do you routine works let alone doing sadhanas. If that person had the will to combat laziness, he/she would not be asking for sadhanas to get rid of it. I was trying to explain to him/her that you can't expect mantras/god/gurudev to do everything for you. Sure, I made fun of him/her; but, apologized at the same time. Maybe, you forgot to read and understand the whole message. > It is a very easy thing to make fun of people > and indeed some of our group members are > experts in that. If you cannot help anybody > then better not pose like an obstacle for > a sain discussion. I am extremely sorry for that. > Now who invented the rule about who is allowed > to talk about sadhna and who not? Tantra Shakti > probably! I am sorry again. > Another thing "God is not going to do everything > for you" well this statement is not justified as > God is doing everything for us and will do > everything for us always. Certainly, you are not a disciple of Nikhileshwaranand otherwise you would never have said that. But, if you are, it's a pity that you failed to understand the teachings of our guru. Once again, God is not going to do everything for you. > These mantras are used in petty matters as > well as very complicated issues. If laziness > is a problem then there is a solution. Then please, share the solution with us. There must also be mantras for not making fun of people and not pose like an obstacle for a sain discussion and getting evrything from god/guru without doing anything. I am sure, you have those mantras and I would be delighted to have them. Please, be kind and share them with this group. > if you know too much and think it must be kept > for yourself then you are most welcomed! I wish, I knew a little bit about becoming one with my Guru. I would be wasting my time in this filthy body and in this mortal world. Maybe, you could give me a good sadhana procedure to become one with my Guru in a second. In that case, I'll worship you a just as I worship my Guru. Thanks for you kind words and sorry once again. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 12 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:57:39 -0000 "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti Re: Lazziness is curable!!! > I dont agree with the notion that god > cannot help in overcoming laziness...god > is the only source of energy required to > fight with this evil habit. I agree with you totally. God will certainly help us fight anything bad. But, what if we do not want to fight? What if we want to just sit back, relax and ask god to do everything? Gurudev Nikhileshwaranand has always said, "Take one step towards me and I'll take 10 steps towards you; but, if you won't move, you won't get me". He has also said that those who don't jump into the ocean, never get the pearls. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 13 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:15:27 -0000 "sita_12342000" <litepower2003 debt pls tell me the mantra to improve financial position and reduce debts .. i had read that Rin Mochan Strota is beneficial. could you please tell me the wordings of this mantra or any other advice ______________________ ______________________ Message: 14 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:36:16 +0400 "Prakash" <vishwadev Re: Re: query Hi Will power is everything, yes it is. That person had the will to ask (not just sit there and wait to get rid of laziness). He knows that he has a problem of laziness, he is looking for a solution to that. you reply was not a solution! well sadhnas and mantras are better given by a Guru and as you already have a Guru then you must ask your Guru who will surely help you. Isnt it funny, that you can hurt someone and immediately say you are sorry! If you knew that your words will be followed by "sorry" then it surely means you are trying to make fun and hurt someone deliberately. You are a disciple of Guru Nikhileshwaranand, it is a good thing, but that does not give you the license to make fun of anyone! I don't think Gurudev would agree with your insulting and fun making attitudes. I wish to point out that your "funny" replies will deter people to ask for a solution to their problems in the future. You are aspiring to become one with the Guru, your asipration is of high standard, but first try to understand people and their problems and then if you think you can help mankind, do it. the one who think about himself and his own aspiration all the time, is not doing any good for mankind. Help mankind first and then if you have some time remaining then help yourself. If you maintain that God is not going to do everything for us, then i wish to point out that up to now, everything that i did and achieved is due to the grace of God. He is doing everything for me and i am very much grateful to Him. God does everything. If YOU think YOU are doing what YOU are doing then YOU and your attituides/replies are of the same standard which need an uplifting. Talk to Gurudev about it! A simple mantra for not making fun of others is "to start making fun of yourself" and using the mirror to see what your problems are, before making comments on others. Every piece of your replies are insulting, why don't you make a print out and have someone (maybe your Guru) give their independent opinion on what you wrote. Mr tantra shakti, you seems to have a problem, ask the Gurudev to show you the right path. There are some people who admit they have a problem while there are others who do not admit at all. They think they have attain perfection alreaday. Kind regards and i am not sorry for anything that i have written here! Prakash - tantra_shakti Wednesday, December 24, 2003 11:14 AM Re: query > If that man has the will to combat the > laziness and is asking for help in that > field then i think HE IS ALLOWED to talk > sadhna procedure. Will power is everything. Without will power, you can't properly do you routine works let alone doing sadhanas. If that person had the will to combat laziness, he/she would not be asking for sadhanas to get rid of it. I was trying to explain to him/her that you can't expect mantras/god/gurudev to do everything for you. Sure, I made fun of him/her; but, apologized at the same time. Maybe, you forgot to read and understand the whole message. > It is a very easy thing to make fun of people > and indeed some of our group members are > experts in that. If you cannot help anybody > then better not pose like an obstacle for > a sain discussion. I am extremely sorry for that. > Now who invented the rule about who is allowed > to talk about sadhna and who not? Tantra Shakti > probably! I am sorry again. > Another thing "God is not going to do everything > for you" well this statement is not justified as > God is doing everything for us and will do > everything for us always. Certainly, you are not a disciple of Nikhileshwaranand otherwise you would never have said that. But, if you are, it's a pity that you failed to understand the teachings of our guru. Once again, God is not going to do everything for you. > These mantras are used in petty matters as > well as very complicated issues. If laziness > is a problem then there is a solution. Then please, share the solution with us. There must also be mantras for not making fun of people and not pose like an obstacle for a sain discussion and getting evrything from god/guru without doing anything. I am sure, you have those mantras and I would be delighted to have them. Please, be kind and share them with this group. > if you know too much and think it must be kept > for yourself then you are most welcomed! I wish, I knew a little bit about becoming one with my Guru. I would be wasting my time in this filthy body and in this mortal world. Maybe, you could give me a good sadhana procedure to become one with my Guru in a second. In that case, I'll worship you a just as I worship my Guru. Thanks for you kind words and sorry once again. Jay Gurudev / b.. c.. [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 15 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:42:10 +0400 "Prakash" <vishwadev Re: debt Hi I hope tantra shakti do not read your posting as he may make fun of your request, it is going on like that at present. You can go through the previous messages in the archive where this problem have been addressed. You can also go through the old issues of the MTY Magazines where there are many sadhna for such a situation. To start with browse the http://www.siddhashram.org/sadhna.shtml kind regards, Prakash - sita_12342000 Wednesday, December 24, 2003 2:15 PM debt pls tell me the mantra to improve financial position and reduce debts . i had read that Rin Mochan Strota is beneficial. could you please tell me the wordings of this mantra or any other advice Jay Gurudev Links / b.. c.. [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 16 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:44:22 -0000 "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti Re: debt > pls tell me the mantra to improve financial > position and reduce debts. Try Shree Yantra Sadhana, Tara Mahavidya Sadhana, Kamala Mahavidya Sadhana, Ashta Laxmi Sadhana, Swarna Bhairav Sadhana or Kanakdhara Sadhana. These sadhanas are proven to be the most effective for financial gains. For sadhana procedures, contact Gurudham. If you are unable to perform sadhanas, you'll find audio files of Shree Sukta and Kanakdhara Stotra in Gurudev's voice zipped by devi_bhagat. Listen Shree Sukta 16 times and Kanakdhara Stotra once every morning. > i had read that Rin Mochan Strota is beneficial. > could you please tell me the wordings of this > mantra or any other advice Perhaps, the learned members of this group would help you in this regard. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 17 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:44:41 +0400 "Prakash" <vishwadev Re: Re: Lazziness is curable!!! > I dont agree with the notion that god > cannot help in overcoming laziness...god > is the only source of energy required to > fight with this evil habit. I agree with you totally. God will certainly help us fight anything bad. But, what if we do not want to fight? What if we want to just sit back, relax and ask god to do everything? Gurudev Nikhileshwaranand has always said, "Take one step towards me and I'll take 10 steps towards you; but, if you won't move, you won't get me". He has also said that those who don't jump into the ocean, never get the pearls. making a humble request for a solution to a problem is a first step! Jay Gurudev / b.. c.. [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 18 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:46:02 -0000 "sri_valere" <sri_valere Re: Lazziness is curable!!! Dear Friends, Just my 2 cents It is just the very thought that the person realised that he/she needs to overcome out of laziness is a step with zeal to overcome out of the laziness. Now it is a matter of sadhana and devotion towards god makes the person more concentrate with inner peace and mind control with steady thoughts So believe in faith and persistence, god does help all the best Sriram , "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti> wrote: > > I dont agree with the notion that god > > cannot help in overcoming laziness...god > > is the only source of energy required to > > fight with this evil habit. > > I agree with you totally. God will certainly help us fight anything > bad. But, what if we do not want to fight? What if we want to just > sit back, relax and ask god to do everything? Gurudev > Nikhileshwaranand has always said, "Take one step towards me and > I'll take 10 steps towards you; but, if you won't move, you won't > get me". He has also said that those who don't jump into the ocean, > never get the pearls. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 19 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 03:18:43 -0800 (PST) deep aditya reddy <aditya1900 Re: debt dear sita, JAI GURUDEV even my elder sister was facing debt problem,so i told her to do bhvaneswari sadhana which as the mantra as OM HREEM BHUVANESWARIYEI MOKSHADAYEI HREEM OM NAMAH.SHE DID tht sadhana with out taking any diksha but great faith in poojya gurudev,thtall,within a matter of 45 to 50 days of doing the sadhana,all thr problems was solved and r quite happy. MAY b u should also do tht i feel coz mothers r always very restless and r the first to save hers childern from troubles. urs aditya sita_12342000 <litepower2003 wrote: pls tell me the mantra to improve financial position and reduce debts .. i had read that Rin Mochan Strota is beneficial. could you please tell me the wordings of this mantra or any other advice Jay Gurudev / Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 20 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:21:57 +0000 (GMT) yashwant bisht <yashwant03 regarding "URVASHI SADHNA" jai gurudev! dear friends can anyone kindly tell me the address or email of any sadhak of gurudev who have accomplish or have done successfully URVASHI APSARA Sadhana, i am doing this sadhna from last one & half years,and is not able to get the siddhi, though i have taken urvashi diksha and apsara diksha. can any one there could help me? India Matrimony: Find your partner online.Post your profile. [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Message: 21 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 03:24:23 -0800 (PST) Shrinivas Khate <srinivaskhet Re: Re: Lazziness is curable!!! Dear Members of the group, my guru had asked me to practise shyamala dandakam created by the great poet kaalidasa once to overcome my laziness. I believe it is quite effective. One must understand its meaning before practising it though. It can be found at http://sanskrit.gde.to/doc_devii/doc_devii.html all the best. Shrinivas New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 22 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:32:03 -0000 "aditya" <tantrasiddhi Re: debt dear aditya, if iam not asking much can u describe the ritual i.e which yantra mala and gutikas to be used etc.is this the sadhana from "vishw ki aloukik sadhanayein book".i got a lot of pms and advices when u posted your problem .alot of people confuse me for u bcos i have the same name.....lolll. jai gurudev soham aditya , deep aditya reddy <aditya1900> wrote: > dear sita, > JAI GURUDEV > > even my elder sister was facing debt problem,so i told her to do bhvaneswari sadhana which as the mantra as OM HREEM BHUVANESWARIYEI MOKSHADAYEI HREEM OM NAMAH.SHE DID tht sadhana with out taking any diksha but great faith in poojya gurudev,thtall,within a matter of 45 to 50 days of doing the sadhana,all thr problems was solved and r quite happy. MAY b u should also do tht i feel coz mothers r always very restless and r the first to save hers childern from troubles. > urs aditya > > sita_12342000 <litepower2003@h...> wrote: > > pls tell me the mantra to improve financial position and reduce debts > . i had read that Rin Mochan Strota is beneficial. could you please > tell me the wordings of this mantra or any other advice > > > > > Jay Gurudev > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ______________________ ______________________ Message: 23 Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:56:57 -0000 "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat Re: Lazziness is curable!!! --- Thank you, Prakash for your comments. Although the tone may be faulty, there is a measure of truth there. I must work harder to conquer my own flaws. And yes laziness is one of them. also, not being able to keep my word beacuase I promised the divine mother I will stay away from discussions as I end up flashing me ego, and it doesnt help me in anyway. i hope this will be my last mail in a long time. So, yes I have weak will power too. And I must work harder to rectify that. It was in 1997, on Anant chaturdashi that I performed my first sadhana. It was called Narayanakshi and was to be done on an Anant Chaturdashi. I had to draw an eye on a cloth which I spent an hour making first with a pencil and then witha needle dipped in sindoor -spent an hour, was pleased with the results. But did not ahve in me the capacity to chant the 21 mala required. So I chanted I think 15 and then dispersed the samagri in the river. The result was supposed to be anant punya. Next year, I was unwittingly and halfheartedly dragged to take Guru Diksha by Shirivastav Uncle exactly on Anant chataurdashi day. Since then, my sadhana moved in bursts and sprouts. I took an oath before Gurudev's photo for personal reasons, in 2001 that he will have to guide me himself, under no circumstance will I contact Gurudham for help or any other Guru in this life. I have come a long way. I am able to sit and chant a few hours without any problem now. I have progressed as a human being. The problem with most people including me is that they are so preoccupied with finding what is wrong with the world, that they totally forget to look inwards. It has been humbling to see so much dirt within me. And still a lot of flaws remain. I dont know if I can rid myself of it all in this life. I wish to digress and answer a comment by someone that if i am changing my ista I will end up empty handed. I think I need to share this because there will be other like me who are somewhat greedy and get lost in the maze os sadhanas and deites. Maybe a good starting point is to quote from Vivvekanada's commentary on fanacticism and how difficult it is to cure it. I am only writing by memeory. There was once a very devoted Shaiva who used to worship Lord shiva with all his devotion. He was meticulous and regular. however, he bore in his heart a hatred for Lord Vishnu. ANd was spending his life proclaining superiority of Shiva. Once the Lord decided to appear before him as half Vishnu and half Shiva to open his eyes while he was lighting an incense before GOD. Instinclty, he covered the the nostril on the Vishnu half of the LOrd because he did not want Vishnu to smell the sweet fragnanace! I had once pealed into laugher narrating this juicily to a friend. Yet, it is easy to see things clearly when you are not in a given situation. I had only known the word "Ma" all my childhood. There was no difference between her forms to me. When I worshipped I did not worry whether I was worshipping durga, or kali or lakshmi or saraswati. Yet, in a difficult time when i was chanting Gouri mantra, my head was filled with confusion. And my advisors were more confused than me:) so, i thought that may be I needed to chant a mahavidya mantra as gouri mantra was not good enough, and that too of an Ugra mahavidya.... Now which one do i choose? Bagla, Dhoomavati na, na may be chinnamasta. It was during that time I had one of my very very few anubhutis. I was lying on the floor to sleep - i perceived a very huge black dog come and bark at my face "woof". God, was i scared! Black dog -kaal bhairav? kaal bhairav - mahakali? but, i was chanting Gouri mantra. Vivekanda said perhaps jokingly, that a fanatic was hopeless and cannot be changed. And yes, i was one such confused person even after that. And it is only recently that I am finding a correct path. I am paranoid about loosing it. So, once again my ista is my Ma. And i dont care which form and which mantra she wants me to chant. Whether it is the same all my life, or changes is irrelevant. Yet i cannot call myself a Shakta as it feels that i I am somehow insulting shiva or vishnu when i say that. To close my long post, I will type a bhajan I have heard in this life from some one spiritually accomplished, and sang more than once. Sorry for no melody. Jagmag Jagmag tribhuvan me Ma jyoti hai Tihari. Navlakh tare wari jayen charano pe balihari. and yet, i still worry about my horoscope. this planet mantra and that mantra Tu hi rama hai, tu hi uma hai tu hi shiv mahamaya hai tu hi shiv mahamaya hai chand mund danav galne ko, Ma, chandi roop banaya hai chandi roop banaya hai (rama is lakshmi. All forms of the divine mother are one. This has been drilled and hammered into my head repeatedly. And i hope i never forget it) tere in nav roopon ki Ma ghar ghar jai jai kari Asha aur vishwaas tumhi se Ma, tera ek sahara hai tera ek sahara hai Jab jab aayee maiya jatil samasya tune aan ubara hai tune hamen ubara hai ( why should we ,then, have any fears any confusions, and any flaws) tribhuvan ka bhandaar bharo Ma, sukhi karo sansaari Bhav sagar me main baha jaat hoon , kar dhar maat ubaar lo kar dhar maat ubaar lo teri daya ka hai maiya bharosa, ab to palak ubar lo ab to palak ubaar lo. daya mayi Ma nish din teri karta rahoon main feri Best wishes, happy new year! And may the divine mother guide us all to the supreme goal. She is everyone's mother. These differences which we perceive among ourselves ---i am richer, more intelligent, prettier, a better sadhak mean nothing to Her. After all she created us as well as our differences. Material accomplishments are no big deal, spiritual enlightenment will also come. And so let us walk our respective path. If someone's path or desire is to acquire siddhis first - let them persue it. I am sorry for a long and again incoherent post. More not soon enough! ANd may GURUDEV bless us all with what we week in the coming year. Obviously mukti will not be anyone's list of high priority. Atleast it is not mine:) Jai gurudev anu ______________________ ______________________ Message: 24 24 Dec 2003 14:53:05 -0000 "Devesh Bhatia" <devesh9 Re: Re: hai(name of publisher") Hi Jay Can you please tell the name of the publisheer of the book "aghora ta the left hand of god". Dev On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 smashantara2001 wrote : >jay, >hello, have you finished the book? What are your reactions to it. I >read this book in 2001, hence my screen name, in Varanasi while >making a pilgrimage to the burning ghats. The aghouri are still alive >and well, and, for the most part holding on to their secrets. >om namah shivaya >, jay <sspmtyv> wrote: >> >> Hai all >> >> I am now adays reading a book on lefthand tantrism >> >> it is called "aghora at the left hand of god' and tells about the >> >> experiences of the aghori vimalanda,it is interesting and amazing >(already birendra has posted abut ths i think) >> >> book tells his experiences with smashaan sadhanas,his vision of maa >smashaan tara, his masters(whom he calls mentors),and yes >alsoabout the real art of sex(concepts of vajroli and some >mudras,eventhough not in detail),and what scared me was their way of >doing sadhanas,in most of the sadhanas you have to go to cemetery >(smashan)get a dead body and sit above the dead bdy and do the sadhana >> >> aghora as i understand is third of the five faces of lord shiva >and it means which is deeper than the deep,fearless and all and is >meant for guys and girls who have lot of guts >> >> i think the book is worth reading ,for those of you who are >interested to know about vaamachar and to understand that truth is >not just about feeling good,but much deeper than life itself >> >> Jay gurudev >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >Jay Gurudev > Sponsor > > Links > >/ > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service >. > [This message contained attachments] ______________________ ______________________ Jay Gurudev ------ / Your ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 and look into the ever insightful GURU. > > No one has any right to tell others what to do and what not to do. Its the will of the self that drives a person to do a thing or to ask for a thing and the "self" is there is everyone -omnipresent: this is the guru in all of us. So listen to your self and trust in it. All your problems will be gone. > > thats a nice write up. thank you very much. jai gurudev anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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