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dear friends,

iam aftab khan and iam originally from

kerala .i see that there are many muslim mantras in tantra

texts.mostly connected to gorakhnath a yogi from nepal..iam amazed

that these two relegion are connected somewhere.

 

 

the reason iam posting here is that i feel a close relation with

hinduism and iam deeply influenced by hindu system and ideas.this is

about a dream i had recently modern psychology neglects dream by

saying that it is just a affect of repression but iam more

influenced with the way dreams are analysed and studied in ayurveda

and other occult texts.

 

 

recently i had a dream in which i looked like a rishi i had a beard

and hair like a rishi with rudraksha all over my body but the

strangest thing was that i had big straight ears like a dog. i saw a

little school girl walking on a road trying to go somewhere but each

time a big black dog would stop her way.then i went near her and

ordered her to do something and after that the dog became weak and

ran away in a fearful fashion.i have heard that dreams indicate

somethings about future or past.is there any sadhana in tantra by

which the meaning of a dream can be known and understood.

 

 

it is my great luck that even after being born in a muslim family i

have been exposed to tantra and bhagavad geetha and other great works

of hindu saints.

 

 

waiting eagerly to hear from my hindu brothers.

 

 

aftab khan

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Dear Brother,

U could try " Swapna Varahi sadhana". People who have

her grace get to know the future , past by dreams. I

am merely suggesting that praying to her might help

you. But , of course, u'll need a guru who has

practised and attained expertise in this upasana.

 

Regards

 

Shrinivas

 

 

 

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||Jai Sadguru Dutta||

 

Dear Zazen,

 

You are right in saying that Hinduism and Islam are connected.

In the Bhavishyottara Purana, there is a clear explanation about the

birth of Islam and it is stated that Mecca is a pilgrimage place

becoz of a Jyothirlinga there. Then, Mecca was called

as "Marusthala". Mohammud Pygambar's nick name was "maha mada" and he

was born to a Brahmin couple. Hindus strongly believe that the holy

linga is inside the "Kaba". In the same Purana, it is mentioned that

when Emperor Vikramaditya visited Mecca and did penance to please

Lord Shiva, the lord appeared in his dream and told him that he would

give him his darshan at "tryambakeshwar" in Nasik.

 

But inspite of this background it is greatly agonizing that the

Muslim clergy and the Mullahs mislead people by preaching hatred and

violence towards fellow human beings. Well that is a different topic.

 

 

Your present interest in Hinduism is due to your previous birth's

sanskars. Please develop this interest and practise it in your life.

You will become a knowledgeable person and you shall be born as a

yogi in your next birth.

 

 

, "zazen1980" <zazen1980> wrote:

> dear friends,

> iam aftab khan and iam originally

from

> kerala .i see that there are many muslim mantras in tantra

> texts.mostly connected to gorakhnath a yogi from nepal..iam amazed

> that these two relegion are connected somewhere.

>

>

> the reason iam posting here is that i feel a close relation with

> hinduism and iam deeply influenced by hindu system and ideas.this

is

> about a dream i had recently modern psychology neglects dream by

> saying that it is just a affect of repression but iam more

> influenced with the way dreams are analysed and studied in

ayurveda

> and other occult texts.

>

>

> recently i had a dream in which i looked like a rishi i had a

beard

> and hair like a rishi with rudraksha all over my body but the

> strangest thing was that i had big straight ears like a dog. i saw

a

> little school girl walking on a road trying to go somewhere but

each

> time a big black dog would stop her way.then i went near her and

> ordered her to do something and after that the dog became weak and

> ran away in a fearful fashion.i have heard that dreams indicate

> somethings about future or past.is there any sadhana in tantra by

> which the meaning of a dream can be known and understood.

>

>

> it is my great luck that even after being born in a muslim family i

> have been exposed to tantra and bhagavad geetha and other great

works

> of hindu saints.

>

>

> waiting eagerly to hear from my hindu brothers.

>

>

> aftab khan

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, "zazen1980" <zazen1980> wrote:

> dear friends,

> iam aftab khan and iam originally

from

> kerala .i see that there are many muslim mantras in tantra

> texts.mostly connected to gorakhnath a yogi from nepal..iam amazed

> that these two relegion are connected somewhere.

>

>

> the reason iam posting here is that i feel a close relation with

> hinduism and iam deeply influenced by hindu system and ideas.this

is

> about a dream i had recently modern psychology neglects dream by

> saying that it is just a affect of repression but iam more

> influenced with the way dreams are analysed and studied in

ayurveda

> and other occult texts.

>

>

> recently i had a dream in which i looked like a rishi i had a

beard

> and hair like a rishi with rudraksha all over my body but the

> strangest thing was that i had big straight ears like a dog. i saw

a

> little school girl walking on a road trying to go somewhere but

each

> time a big black dog would stop her way.then i went near her and

> ordered her to do something and after that the dog became weak and

> ran away in a fearful fashion.i have heard that dreams indicate

> somethings about future or past.is there any sadhana in tantra by

> which the meaning of a dream can be known and understood.

>

>

> it is my great luck that even after being born in a muslim family

i

> have been exposed to tantra and bhagavad geetha and other great

works

> of hindu saints.

>

>

> waiting eagerly to hear from my hindu brothers.

>

>

> aftab khan

 

welcome brother,

we hope you enjoy your stay here. That we learn from your

perspective, are able to convety the little we know.

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---||Jai Sadguru Dutta||

 

Dear Zazen,

 

You are right in saying that Hinduism and Islam are connected.

In the Bhavishyottara Purana, there is a clear explanation about the

birth of Islam and it is stated that Mecca is a pilgrimage place

becoz of a Jyothirlinga there. Then, Mecca was called

as "Marusthala". Mohammud Pygambar's nick name was "maha mada" and he

was born to a Brahmin couple. Hindus strongly believe that the holy

linga is inside the "Kaba". In the same Purana, it is mentioned that

when Emperor Vikramaditya visited Mecca and did penance to please

Lord Shiva, the lord appeared in his dream and told him that he would

give him his darshan at "tryambakeshwar" in Nasik.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Thank you shrinath for your post, as always they reflect on your

deep understanding. I have read this somewhere on the web too. I

have also read that Guru Gobind Singh ji once said that his lineage

comes directly from Kush and Guru Nanakdev's comes directly from

Luv -both sons of Shri Ram. Yet, at this time no sikh wants to hear

this. This is but natural. We all come from the same divine power.

Yet, our "I" goes down and keeps on fragmenting - country, religion,

caste and then differences within the same family too. It has

something to do with the fact that we do not wish to loose our

identities. So this statement and similar ones even if true are

taken as offensive, and rightly so as they are used by hindu

fanatics to propose the supremacy of their religion.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

But in spite of this background it is greatly agonizing that the

Muslim clergy and the Mullahs mislead people by preaching hatred and

violence towards fellow human beings. Well that is a different topic.

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Fanatics are everywhere, shrinath. Our own religion is filled with

them as well. I have a theory which is not mine, but i do not

remember whose it is. If love for "my own" is translated into hatred

for what is not yours - hindus vs muslims, shaiva vs vaishnava,

india vs pakistan -you will find yourself on the other side in due

course of time. So a fanatic hindu who hated muslims will have to be

born as a muslim and vice versa. And this process will go on till he

comes to a stage that he gets over this notion.

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Your present interest in Hinduism is due to your previous birth's

sanskars. Please develop this interest and practice it in your life.

You will become a knowledgeable person and you shall be born as a

yogi in your next birth.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That is possible. Akbar used to see himself as a practicing yogi.

After all Geeta says that those who shortly miss liberation are born

as kings/ in powerful positions depending on the power of their

penance. I also believe that i have been lived a life in saudi arab

as a muslim girl though at this stage of my infant sadhana i cannot

confirm it to myself with confidence.I will one day, see all my

previous lives inshah allah! Past life regression fascinates me. But

hypnosis is just too simple. \

 

Anyway, muslims do not believe in more than one life. Nor do

christians actually. Once a muslim friend of mine commented that i

will have several births, but he only one because he is a muslim.

God's laws, I think, are uniform and apply to all in a similar

fashion. So if there is such a thing as rebirth, we will all be

reborn, if not this is the only life make the most of it! What we

keep learning needs to unlearnt again and again, it depends on our

present state of absorption and serves no purpose other than showing

us the right path, and thats what GOD gives to us and so does our

Guru.

 

I remember as a child standing and looking at a statue of Lord Shiva

who i thought was a nice guy, when I noticed that he had this woman

tied up in his hair which annoyed me greatly. I don't think I would

ever have worshiped this mean GOD again. I went to ask my mother who

directed me to someone we revere. He seemed pained by my expression,

and was thinking for the right thing to say when I came up with the

answer -its parvati ji no!? Some how, it seemed OK if if it was

parvatiji sitting there and I cannot explain the reason why. I got

the answer "yes". This satisfied me, and I went back to look at the

statue with devotion.

 

Don't take your truths too seriously and spend energy fighting over

them. They are as transitory as our very own existence. I hope I can

vanish for good now, for my own good:)

 

ya devi sarva bhooteshu bhranti roopen sansthita

namstasyei namstasyei namstasyei namo namah

jaigurudev

anu

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Hi Aftab:

 

It's indeed a great pleasure to hear from you. In my opinion, when it

comes to true spiritualism, there's no such distinction between

Hindus, Moslems etc. We are all a part of the Global Brotherhood of

Human Beings, and the gifts of the Supreme Being are equally

available to all of us. Division and compartmentalization of people

into "religions", in my opinion, is not only idiotic and childish,

but also creates an opportunity for anti-divine forces in the cosmos

to keep people disunited, and the Supreme Being would never intend us

to be disunited in any manner. Perhaps it's as silly as two brothers

in a house that sleep in different bedrooms identifying themselves

with the bedrooms and fighting against each other because the other

person belongs to a "different bedroom", instead of being mature

enough and identifying themselves with the entire house they live in.

 

Your dreams are certainly interesting, and it's most likely that you

must have been a "Hindu" in a past life. Our past lives (and also the

most probable future lives) are stored in our unconscious mind, which

is governed by the nodes of the moon, popularly called Rahu and Ketu.

Ketu rules the past, and shows us how our past lives are affecting us

in this life, as well as the type of karma that we've carried over

from previous lives to be accounted for in this life. Rahu rules the

future and the type of unknown realms we need to step into in this

life (but Rahu will give full support to us when we decide to take

the "risk" and venture into these realms).

 

If you want to know more about your past, you may perform an anusthan

for Ketu. It's very simple and doesn't require elaborate rules. You

may start the anusthan by sitting facing north on a Tuesday, Thursday

or Saturday and chanting the following mantra:

 

OM KEM KETAVE NAMAHA,

 

or

 

OM STHRAAM STHREEM STHROUM SAHA KETAVE NAMAHA.

 

This needs to be chanted 17,000 times, and must be done within a

cycle of the moon (between two new moons).

 

You may chant the mantra a certain number of times on the first day.

But the second day onwards, you would need to chant the mantra the

same number of times or more, but not lesser than what you did on the

first day. This needs to go on until you complete the anusthan (170

rounds, where 1 round = 108 repetitions).

 

Also, for best results, it should be at the same place and the same

time everyday until you complete it (5 minutes variation either way

is OK, but not more than that). If you travel a lot, then doing it at

a different place is fine, but sticking to the same time is more

important.

 

I'm pretty sure the other people here know a lot of others sadhanas

that can help you accomplish the same thing, and probably a lot more.

You're very fortunate to have these signals, and we'd encourage you

to continue to pursue the spiritual path and you can certainly become

a great Yogi and attain liberation in this very life itself.

 

Wishing you good luck in all your endeavors.

 

- Mukund

 

 

, "zazen1980" <zazen1980> wrote:

> dear friends,

> iam aftab khan and iam originally

from

> kerala .i see that there are many muslim mantras in tantra

> texts.mostly connected to gorakhnath a yogi from nepal..iam amazed

> that these two relegion are connected somewhere.

>

>

> the reason iam posting here is that i feel a close relation with

> hinduism and iam deeply influenced by hindu system and ideas.this

is

> about a dream i had recently modern psychology neglects dream by

> saying that it is just a affect of repression but iam more

> influenced with the way dreams are analysed and studied in

ayurveda

> and other occult texts.

>

>

> recently i had a dream in which i looked like a rishi i had a

beard

> and hair like a rishi with rudraksha all over my body but the

> strangest thing was that i had big straight ears like a dog. i saw

a

> little school girl walking on a road trying to go somewhere but

each

> time a big black dog would stop her way.then i went near her and

> ordered her to do something and after that the dog became weak and

> ran away in a fearful fashion.i have heard that dreams indicate

> somethings about future or past.is there any sadhana in tantra by

> which the meaning of a dream can be known and understood.

>

>

> it is my great luck that even after being born in a muslim family i

> have been exposed to tantra and bhagavad geetha and other great

works

> of hindu saints.

>

>

> waiting eagerly to hear from my hindu brothers.

>

>

> aftab khan

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Hinduism is not a single religion

its the collection of Saivism,Shaktismn,Vaishnavism,Smartism is known today as Hinduism

But All four believe in karma and reincarnation and in a Supreme Being who is both form and pervades form, who creates, sustains and destroys the universe only to create it again in unending cycles. They strongly declare the validity and importance of temple worship, in the three worlds of existence and the myriad Gods and devas residing in them. They concur that there is no intrinsic evil, that the cosmos is created out of God and is permeated by Him. They each believe in maya (though their definitions differ somewhat), and in the liberation of the soul from rebirth, called moksha, as the goal of human existence. They believe in dharma and in ahimsa, noninjury, and in the need for a satguru to lead the soul toward Self Realization. They wear the sacred marks, tilaka, on their foreheads as sacred symbols, though each wears a distinct mark. Finally, they prefer cremation of the body upon death, believing that the soul will inhabit another body in the next life. While Hinduism has many sacred scriptures, all sects ascribe the highest authority to the Vedas and Agamas, though their Agamas differ somewhat

Eg-like Christianity-(30+ CE) Christianity is divided into three main sects: Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant. Among Protestants there are over 20,000 denomin-ations.

Eastern Orthodox-(1054 CE),Lutheran -Martin Luther (1517),Anglican -Henry VIII (1534),Methodist -John Wesley (1739)

Worldwide Church of God -Herbert Armstrong (1933),Baptist John Smyth (1609),Presbyterian -John Knox (1625),Quakers -George Fox (1647),Mormon Joseph Smith (1830) to sum in word they are called Christianity

The Ultimate Truth

 

Saivism: There are no divine earthly incarnations of the Supreme Being.

God Siva is one with the soul. The soul must realize this advaitic (monistic) Truth by God Siva's grace

With bhakti as a base, emphasis is placed on sadhana, tapas (austerity) and yoga. Ascetic.

texts-Vedas, Saiva Agamas and Saiva Puranas

Geographically widespread, strongest in South and North India, Nepal and Sri Lanka.

Time less Truth to be accepted

 

Saivism is ancient, truly ageless, for it has no beginning. It is the precursor of the many-faceted religion now termed Hinduism. Scholars trace the roots of Siva worship back more than 8,000 years to the advanced Indus Valley civilization. But sacred writings tell us there never was a time when Saivism did not exist

It provides knowledge of man's evolution from God and back to God, of the soul's unfoldment and awakening guided by enlightened sages. Like all the sects, its majority are devout families, headed by hundreds of orders of swamis and sadhus who follow the fiery, world-renouncing path to moksha.

The Vedas state, "By knowing Siva, the Auspicious One who is hidden in all things, exceedingly fine, like film arising from clarified butter, the One embracer of the universe by realizing God, one is released from all fetters." Aum Namah Sivaya

The Cosmic Dance of Shiva.

God and his creation are One. Yet God hides himself from his creation to give himself the joy of discovering God. God is both Creator and the Created. This is also known as the Wisdom of Balance. The Uncreated God and The Created God are One, yet the creation is attached to the grand illusion of separateness. Whenever God's creation discovers God, God discovers himself all over again. God delights in the dance of hiding and discovering his glory. The Cosmic Dance of Shiva.

Your life is your part in this awesome Cosmic Dance. Your birth begins with your God Consciousness hid from you. If you have not discovered your unlimited potential in this life you will die, and your soul will go to the unseen state awaiting its chance for another birth. This is the gem of knowledge known as Reincarnation.

 

About Vaishnavism

 

Vaishnavism is also an ancient Hindu sect centering on the worship of Lord Vishnu and His incarnations, especially Krishna and Rama. Largely dualistic, profoundly devotional, it is rich in saints, temples and scriptures. Aum.

The worship of Vishnu, meaning "pervader, " dates back to Vedic times. The Pancharatra and Bhagavata sects were popular prior to 300 bce.

The Bhagavad Gita states, "On those who meditate on Me and worship with undivided heart, I confer attainment of what they have not, and preserve what they have." Aum Namo Narayanaya.

But There is no denial of incarnations and 10 avatars of Lord Vishnu..... But,,,,

 

Proof that Lord Shiva Was there in all yugas and was worshipped by all God and Goddess.There are many instances

He was worshipped by lord Rama and Ravana also as he was the only God and energy of good as well as evil,He was a Kind Father who granted all the wishes of the children's who pray to him he never see if his children's intentions but if they pray to him he grants them without thinking he never judges you by you mistakes or past things every time you go to him he you are a New person coming to him with your problems to be solved.

Because of his innocence's he is called Bhole nath,

But also Notice that when he was around on Earth he did not meet any avatars or none existed only in Heavens his stories with Brahma and Vishnu are mentioned.

Here are few incidents mentioned in Holy books about Lord Shiva documented and of his appearances

Lord shiva takes the shape of (Lingam) Controls the universe and all the Gods

 

 

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why the lingam is believed to be one of the most potent emblems in Hindu ideals.

It all started with Brahma and Vishnu, who were arguing over their relative supremacy. Their vain arguments were interrupted by a superluminous glow from a strange and blazing pillar, its shape reminiscent of the linga. Both of them sped towards this indescribable flaming light, which grew before their eyes into infinity, piercing the earth and extending through the heavens. Overwhelmed and terrified by the unfathomable vision, the two gods decided to seek the beginning and end of this burning immensity. Brahma taking the form of a swan flew upwards, and Vishnu dove down acquiring the shape of a boar. Both of the gods however, could not fathom the extent of this fiery column at either end, and returned exhausted and bewildered to the level they had started from. At that moment, the central part of the pillar split open and Shiva revealed himself in his full glory. Overawed, both Brahma and Vishnu bowed before him. Thunderous laughter, or the sound of AUM, issued from the pillar, filling the sky.

Brahma's head was Ripped off By lord shiva

<HR style="COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->once, Brahma and Vishnu were discussing who was the supreme god and then when they came to know from Veda that Shiva is the supreme being, Brahma ignored and spoke bad about Shiva. He got angry and cut off Brahma's head that spoke ill of him, leaving Brahma with four heads instead of five.Shiva is the creator of Dance and of the first 16 rythemic syllabus ever uttered, the Sanskrit language was born. Dance of anger is known as Tandav Nritya, joy as Ananda nritya. Thus, Shiva is also known as Natraja, lord of dance and it is said that on 13th day of each bright lunar fortnight of Hindu calendar, after 6 in the evening, falls a sacred hour called Pradosha and if you worship this time than one gets powers of Universe. It is believed that all Gods gather to witness the dance of Natraja, Shiva.There are around 30 million Linga in temples in India, famous one formed of Ice at Amarnath, Somnath in Gujarat and it is said Shiva sleeps in all Lingas in Chaturmasya and so if one worships the Shivlinga this time, than it is very auspicious. Going for Pilgrimage to all 12 Jyotirlinga means one washes away the sins of last seven births and also reciting the mantras purifies the soul and can attain peacefulness

Lord Krishna's advice to Arjuna

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After hearing about the Pandav's exile, Krishna goes to visit them. He advises the Pandavs to prepare for war and tells Arjun to do penance to obtain divine weapons. Arjun does penance and eventually pleases Lord Shiva. Lord Shiva bestows him with the divine Pasupata weapon and advises him to obtain other weapons in Indralok. Rishi Duruvasa visits Hastinapur. In an attempt to humiliate the Pandavs, Duryodhan requests that the sage visit tha Pandavs as well. Rishi Duruvasa promises to do so

Lord shiva grants Draupadi her desired wish

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When Sage Vyasa visits the family, he explains to Draupadi that her unique position as the wife of five brothers results from a certain incident in her previous birth. She had in that lifetime prayed to Lord Shiva to grant her a husband with five desired qualities. Lord Shiva, pleased with her devotion, tells her that it is very difficult to get a husband with all five qualities that she desired. But she sticks to her ground and asks for the same. Then Lord Shiva grants her wish saying that she would get the same in her next birth. Hence she gets married to five brothers each who represents a given quality.

The Sad Truth

 

The Ancient brahims Abolished the Savism concept which was practised in India and that time India was in peak of its glory they created caste system according to their occupation and classified according to their jobs which they do in daily life created upper and lower caste and ruled them and the kings which was major draw back in Hindu society which created chance and opportunities from other cultures to easily enter India and showcase our drawback and spread new religion In India The Mother of all religions which Once taught the world the art of war,science ,medicine dance Martial arts, many More is now stands divided"Mankind ought to be taught that religions are but the varied expressions of THE RELIGION, which is Oneness, so that each may choose the path that suits him best." - Swami Vivekananda)the saivism concept

Om Nama shivya

 

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