Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Dear friends, Pl tell me what is the significance of Mantra & Tantra during Sadhana. If a Mantra creates viberations in Cosmic body and can force the Cosmic energy to fullfil Sadhana purpose. Does this mean that a normal prayer does not have effect to influence Cosmic energy/power. Because in normal prayer we don't use any Beej Mantra etc. Secondly if a Mantra has power then even if somebody is doing Sadhana for some witfull purpose, He will succeed if he does Sadhana with proper method. On the other hand if a person suppose not good in Sanskrit (Which is the actual language used by Mantra) and made a minor mistake in reciting Mantra he will hardly get any result even when his purpose is good and he is highly devoted. How a Yantra help in Sadhana? A mala/rosary is only a item used to count the no. of Mantra chanted during Sadhana. Then why different type of rosary used for different Sadhana? I know the very few basics about Tantra. Mainly as much details are available on Gurudham website. So looking for answers of these questions. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Let me try to explain it to you in simple language. 1. Mantra and yantra are integral part of any tantra sadhana. Yantra is a geometric design containing the layout or seat of power of various forces. For example, shree yantra contains 64 triangular patterns and in the centre you find the seat of main goddess, Balatripursundari. When mantra is chanted, it attunes itself to various forces located in the yantra (provided yantra is properly praan prathishtith), and it creates changes in the inner space by way of sensation in the kundalini and chakras, and in the outer space by giving sadhak glimpses of divine figure in the yantra. Mantra sadhana can be done without yantra also but in that case it takes longer time to attain siddhi. Yantra is like an amplifier, it amplifies the vibrations of mantra. 2. Normal prayer doesn't have enough force to give u instant results like tantra. Further, beej mantras have more vibrations than a normal prayer. Take the example of vedic pronunciation of shreem and tantric pronunciation , shreeng. The latter has more vibration and acts faster than vedic. But for ordinary people like us, vedic pronunciation is recommended because that unleashes energy gradually and we can handle it over a period. 3. Yes, mantra sadhana gives results irrespective of ones intentions or designs. It's like nuclear power which can be used depending on one's own level of wisdom. However, a sadhana done to harm others will have its own Karmic repercussions and one will have to ultimately pay for it. Knowledge of sanskrit is not necessary but yes pronunciation should be proper. Faith and devotion can compensate for lack of knowledge of sanskrit language but I have no first hand knowledge of such a thing . In any case proper pronunciation is necessary, it will make sadhana much easier. 4. Mala is not merely for the purpose of counting. When you do mala, there's friction between ur thumb and the third fingure. The portion of thumb which gets rubbed regularly sends vibrations to brain (those who know acupressure or Sujok therapy would know it better)and activates various chakras. Different malas have different properties. Sphatik has a cooling effect. Hakik is high in density and rudraksh is very rough. Material of mala determines the friction produced in thumb and in turn the vibrational levels. 5. It has been my experience that if one takes shaktipaat diksha for a sadhana, then yantra is not required because guru transfers a part of his energy to you and then it's just a matter of few days before you attain mantra siddhi. Jaigurudev --- hnubhakt <ymalik wrote: > Dear friends, > > Pl tell me what is the significance of Mantra & > Tantra during Sadhana. > > If a Mantra creates viberations in Cosmic body and > can force the > Cosmic energy to fullfil Sadhana purpose. > Does this mean that a normal prayer does not have > effect to influence > Cosmic energy/power. Because in normal prayer we > don't use any Beej > Mantra etc. > > Secondly if a Mantra has power then even if somebody > is doing Sadhana > for some witfull purpose, He will succeed if he does > Sadhana with > proper method. On the other hand if a person suppose > not good in > Sanskrit (Which is the actual language used by > Mantra) and made a > minor mistake in reciting Mantra he will hardly get > any result even > when his purpose is good and he is highly devoted. > > How a Yantra help in Sadhana? > > A mala/rosary is only a item used to count the no. > of Mantra chanted > during Sadhana. Then why different type of rosary > used for different > Sadhana? > > I know the very few basics about Tantra. Mainly as > much details are > available on Gurudham website. So looking for > answers of these > questions. > > Thanks > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Thanks Vatssalya, The facts you provided are really good and comprehansive. I will appreciate your knowledge on finer aspects. Pl also tell me, If I take Diksha for a particular sadhana and one does not complete the required no. of Mantra chanting in a short time that it should be actually, instead one keep meditating & chanting mantra in a slow fashion and for a long time. What will be the impact. In other words if one start chanting a particular Mantra on regular basis (suppose one mala daily for a year), how it will impact the Sadhak? Thanks , vatssalya saxsena <vats57> wrote: > Let me try to explain it to you in simple language. > > 1. Mantra and yantra are integral part of any tantra > sadhana. Yantra is a geometric design containing the > layout or seat of power of various forces. For > example, shree yantra contains 64 triangular patterns > and in the centre you find the seat of main goddess, > Balatripursundari. When mantra is chanted, it attunes > itself to various forces located in the yantra > (provided yantra is properly praan prathishtith), and > it creates changes in the inner space by way of > sensation in the kundalini and chakras, and in the > outer space by giving sadhak glimpses of divine figure > in the yantra. Mantra sadhana can be done without > yantra also but in that case it takes longer time to > attain siddhi. Yantra is like an amplifier, it > amplifies the vibrations of mantra. > > 2. Normal prayer doesn't have enough force to give u > instant results like tantra. Further, beej mantras > have more vibrations than a normal prayer. Take the > example of vedic pronunciation of shreem and tantric > pronunciation , shreeng. The latter has more vibration > and acts faster than vedic. But for ordinary people > like us, vedic pronunciation is recommended because > that unleashes energy gradually and we can handle it > over a period. > > 3. Yes, mantra sadhana gives results irrespective of > ones intentions or designs. It's like nuclear power > which can be used depending on one's own level of > wisdom. However, a sadhana done to harm others will > have its own Karmic repercussions and one will have to > ultimately pay for it. Knowledge of sanskrit is not > necessary but yes pronunciation should be proper. > Faith and devotion can compensate for lack of > knowledge of sanskrit language but I have no first > hand knowledge of such a thing . In any case proper > pronunciation is necessary, it will make sadhana much > easier. > > 4. Mala is not merely for the purpose of counting. > When you do mala, there's friction between ur thumb > and the third fingure. The portion of thumb which gets > rubbed regularly sends vibrations to brain (those who > know acupressure or Sujok therapy would know it > better)and activates various chakras. Different malas > have different properties. Sphatik has a cooling > effect. Hakik is high in density and rudraksh is very > rough. Material of mala determines the friction > produced in thumb and in turn the vibrational levels. > > 5. It has been my experience that if one takes > shaktipaat diksha for a sadhana, then yantra is not > required because guru transfers a part of his energy > to you and then it's just a matter of few days before > you attain mantra siddhi. > > Jaigurudev > > --- hnubhakt <ymalik@v...> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > Pl tell me what is the significance of Mantra & > > Tantra during Sadhana. > > > > If a Mantra creates viberations in Cosmic body and > > can force the > > Cosmic energy to fullfil Sadhana purpose. > > Does this mean that a normal prayer does not have > > effect to influence > > Cosmic energy/power. Because in normal prayer we > > don't use any Beej > > Mantra etc. > > > > Secondly if a Mantra has power then even if somebody > > is doing Sadhana > > for some witfull purpose, He will succeed if he does > > Sadhana with > > proper method. On the other hand if a person suppose > > not good in > > Sanskrit (Which is the actual language used by > > Mantra) and made a > > minor mistake in reciting Mantra he will hardly get > > any result even > > when his purpose is good and he is highly devoted. > > > > How a Yantra help in Sadhana? > > > > A mala/rosary is only a item used to count the no. > > of Mantra chanted > > during Sadhana. Then why different type of rosary > > used for different > > Sadhana? > > > > I know the very few basics about Tantra. Mainly as > > much details are > > available on Gurudham website. So looking for > > answers of these > > questions. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. > http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 If you take shaktipaat diksha, then about 95% of the job is over. Normally, after taking diksha, one doesn't require a yantra. One just has to do either 2 or 5 malas for 21, 27, or 31 days as recommended by gurudev. Ans that's it. After that, u can just continue doing one mala daily to be in "touch" with the sadhana u have performed. I can quote from my own experience about shaktipaat diksha, primarily to encourage you - I had the experience of samadhi on 14th days after starting Kali Sadhana..I had taken shaktipaat diksha and was supposed to do 2 malas daily for 21 days. Similarly, I have done Bhuveneshwari and Tara without any yantra or elaborate rituals..but the force of shaktipaat diksha gave me astounding results..This is the force of shaktipaat diksha. Jai Gurudev --- hnubhakt <ymalik wrote: > Thanks Vatssalya, > > The facts you provided are really good and > comprehansive. > I will appreciate your knowledge on finer aspects. > > Pl also tell me, If I take Diksha for a particular > sadhana and one > does not complete the required no. of Mantra > chanting in a short time > that it should be actually, instead one keep > meditating & chanting > mantra in a slow fashion and for a long time. What > will be the impact. > > In other words if one start chanting a particular > Mantra on regular > basis (suppose one mala daily for a year), how it > will impact the > Sadhak? > > Thanks > > > , vatssalya saxsena > <vats57> > wrote: > > Let me try to explain it to you in simple > language. > > > > 1. Mantra and yantra are integral part of any > tantra > > sadhana. Yantra is a geometric design containing > the > > layout or seat of power of various forces. For > > example, shree yantra contains 64 triangular > patterns > > and in the centre you find the seat of main > goddess, > > Balatripursundari. When mantra is chanted, it > attunes > > itself to various forces located in the yantra > > (provided yantra is properly praan prathishtith), > and > > it creates changes in the inner space by way of > > sensation in the kundalini and chakras, and in the > > outer space by giving sadhak glimpses of divine > figure > > in the yantra. Mantra sadhana can be done without > > yantra also but in that case it takes longer time > to > > attain siddhi. Yantra is like an amplifier, it > > amplifies the vibrations of mantra. > > > > 2. Normal prayer doesn't have enough force to give > u > > instant results like tantra. Further, beej mantras > > have more vibrations than a normal prayer. Take > the > > example of vedic pronunciation of shreem and > tantric > > pronunciation , shreeng. The latter has more > vibration > > and acts faster than vedic. But for ordinary > people > > like us, vedic pronunciation is recommended > because > > that unleashes energy gradually and we can handle > it > > over a period. > > > > 3. Yes, mantra sadhana gives results irrespective > of > > ones intentions or designs. It's like nuclear > power > > which can be used depending on one's own level of > > wisdom. However, a sadhana done to harm others > will > > have its own Karmic repercussions and one will > have to > > ultimately pay for it. Knowledge of sanskrit is > not > > necessary but yes pronunciation should be proper. > > Faith and devotion can compensate for lack of > > knowledge of sanskrit language but I have no first > > hand knowledge of such a thing . In any case > proper > > pronunciation is necessary, it will make sadhana > much > > easier. > > > > 4. Mala is not merely for the purpose of counting. > > When you do mala, there's friction between ur > thumb > > and the third fingure. The portion of thumb which > gets > > rubbed regularly sends vibrations to brain (those > who > > know acupressure or Sujok therapy would know it > > better)and activates various chakras. Different > malas > > have different properties. Sphatik has a cooling > > effect. Hakik is high in density and rudraksh is > very > > rough. Material of mala determines the friction > > produced in thumb and in turn the vibrational > levels. > > > > 5. It has been my experience that if one takes > > shaktipaat diksha for a sadhana, then yantra is > not > > required because guru transfers a part of his > energy > > to you and then it's just a matter of few days > before > > you attain mantra siddhi. > > > > Jaigurudev > > > > --- hnubhakt <ymalik@v...> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Pl tell me what is the significance of Mantra & > > > Tantra during Sadhana. > > > > > > If a Mantra creates viberations in Cosmic body > and > > > can force the > > > Cosmic energy to fullfil Sadhana purpose. > > > Does this mean that a normal prayer does not > have > > > effect to influence > > > Cosmic energy/power. Because in normal prayer we > > > don't use any Beej > > > Mantra etc. > > > > > > Secondly if a Mantra has power then even if > somebody > > > is doing Sadhana > > > for some witfull purpose, He will succeed if he > does > > > Sadhana with > > > proper method. On the other hand if a person > suppose > > > not good in > > > Sanskrit (Which is the actual language used by > > > Mantra) and made a > > > minor mistake in reciting Mantra he will hardly > get > > > any result even > > > when his purpose is good and he is highly > devoted. > > > > > > How a Yantra help in Sadhana? > > > > > > A mala/rosary is only a item used to count the > no. > > > of Mantra chanted > > > during Sadhana. Then why different type of > rosary > > > used for different > > > Sadhana? > > > > > > I know the very few basics about Tantra. Mainly > as > > > much details are > > > available on Gurudham website. So looking for > > > answers of these > > > questions. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you > want. > > http://antispam./tools > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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