Guest guest Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 Dear friends, I would like to know if any of you have had self-realisation which is the first step towards god-realisation. and if yes what is the exact way you followed. How can tantra, mantra,yantra help me in this respect with gr8 speed? Thanks Awaiting to hear lot of replies, vishal rgnikhil [raj414 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 4:56 PMSubject: Re: Dainik Guru Puja- Scanning pages of Book- Copy Right?Jai Gurudev!Dear friend,It is possible but don't we have to seek permission from Gurudham in case we inadvertently infinge any copyright? Why don't you ask Gurudham and inform us about this matter? Best wishes, Jai Gurudev--- In , Nitin Dhanta <ndhanta> wrote:> Jai Gurudev,> > It seems that many of Sadhaks with us do not know> about "Tantrokt Prath: Mansik Guru Pujan".> > So it is requested if any Sadhak have facility of> Scanner to scan mansik guru pujan pages from the book> "Tantrokt Guru Pujan" then kindly mail it on the group> for the help of other Sadhaks.> > > Jai Gurudev> > > Nitin Dhanta> > ______________________> India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. > Go to: http://in.insurance./licspecial/index.htmlJay Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 vishal gupta <ourpassions (AT) vsnl (DOT) net> wrote: Dear friends, I would like to know if any of you have had self-realisation which is the first step towards god-realisation. and if yes what is the exact way you followed. How can tantra, mantra,yantra help me in this respect with gr8 speed? Thanks Awaiting to hear lot of replies, vishal rgnikhil [raj414 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 4:56 PMSubject: Re: Dainik Guru Puja- Scanning pages of Book- Copy Right?Jai Gurudev!Dear friend,It is possible but don't we have to seek permission from Gurudham in case we inadvertently infinge any copyright? Why don't you ask Gurudham and inform us about this matter? Best wishes, Jai Gurudev--- In , Nitin Dhanta <ndhanta> wrote:> Jai Gurudev,> > It seems that many of Sadhaks with us do not know> about "Tantrokt Prath: Mansik Guru Pujan".> > So it is requested if any Sadhak have facility of> Scanner to scan mansik guru pujan pages from the book> "Tantrokt Guru Pujan" then kindly mail it on the group> for the help of other Sadhaks.> > > Jai Gurudev> > > Nitin Dhanta> > ______________________> India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. > Go to: http://in.insurance./licspecial/index.htmlJay GurudevJay Gurudev Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Jai Gurudev! Dear Friend, The path to spirituality and siddhashram is not an easy one. Also, each person has a different and unique experience along the journey to attainment of self-realization. It all depends on your sanskars, the sincere efforts you put and most importantly your luck in finding a Sada Guru. I can also assure us that not many in this world are willing to show you the right path. Many will try to manipulate you and to utilize your wealth and efforts for personal gains. It is only the Sada Guru who can deliver you from this Bhava Sagar! But, again a Sada Guru will also not do all that with gr8 speed as you have put it! His blessings can be obtained only after total surrender to his lotus feet!!! Please refer to my messages on this website titled 'Samarpan-I & Samarpan-II'. I too can only point you to the source of all success that is the Lotus feet of Sada Gurudev! Rest is his grace and blessings! Now, regarding your question: How can tantra, mantra,yantra help me in this respect with gr8 speed? Tantra, mantra, yantra is part of our ancient heritage. This heritage and culture is older than all known to the western countries. It was born of the Rishi Parampara of our fore-fathers and pre-dates western civilization by more than 5000 years. Here is an example: A brief sketch of the impact of Bhagwad Gita on Famous Personalities: - Henry David Thoreau says: "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagvad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial." Ralph Waldo Emerson on the Gita: "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagwad-Gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us." Mahatma Gandhi says: "When disappoint stares me in the face and all alone I see not one ray of light, I go back to the Bhagvad Gita. I find a verse here and a verse there, and I immediately begin to smile in the midst of overwhelming tragedies." Dr. Annie Besant on the Gita "It is meant to lift the aspirant from the lower levels of renunciation, where objects are renounced, to the loftier heights where desires are dead, and where the yogi dwells in calm and ceaseless contemplation while his body and mind are actively employed in discharging the duties that fell to his lot in life." Swami Vivekananda says: "The Gita is a bouquet composed of the beautiful flowers of spiritual truths collected from the Vedas and the Upanishads." ****** The Gita was preached as a preparatory lesson for living worldly life with an eye to Release, Nirvana. My last prayer to everyone, therefore, is that one should not fail to thoroughly understand this ancient science of worldly life as early as possible in one's life. --- Lokmanya Tilak The Gita is one of the clearest and most comprehensive summaries of the perennial philosophy ever to have been done. Hence its enduring value, not only for the Indians, but also for all mankind. It is perhaps the most systematic spiritual statement of the perennial philosophy. --- Aldous Huxley I believe that in all the living languages of the world, there is no book so full of true knowledge, and yet so handy. It teaches self- control, austerity, non-violence, compassion, and obedience to the call of duty for the sake of duty, and putting up a fight against unrighteousness (Adharma). To my knowledge, there is no book in the whole range of the world's literature so high above as the Bhagavad- Gita, which is the treasure house of Dharma nor only for the Hindus but for all mankind. --- M. M. Malaviya The Gita is just one of the several ancient scriptures which were written by our fore-fathers/ Rishis. Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan can help you overcome obstacles that you face in your 'Bhautika and Adhyatamik' life. However, attainment of self-realization is not possible through reading books, or going to a satsanga or watching the spiritual shows on a television set. It is a matter or great effort under the guidance of a Sada Guru. So, you are faced by the basic problem of finding the Sada Guru (refer to my message titled – SAMARPAN-I & PART-II). Then comes the most important problem of all. As one wise man has put it: - "My problem is not my problem. I am my problem!" WHICH LEADS US TO THE BASIC PARADIGM- HOW CAN WE BECOME A SHISHYA? WHAT IS THE DHARMA OF A SHISHYA? WHAT IS SAMARPAN TO THE LOTUS FEET OF THE SADA GURU? HOW CAN BE ONE WITH THE SADA GURU? ONCE YOU FIND THE ANSWER TO THESE BASIC QUESTIONS THAT A SADHAK MUST ASK OF ONESELF ATTAINMENT OF SELF-REALIZATION AND GOD'S REALIZATION IS ABSOLUTELY EASY! THE JOURNEY TO ATTAINMENT OF SELF-REALIZATION TAKES AN INFINITELY LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND EFFORT, BUT ONCE WE OVERCOME OUR FEARS AND DILEMMAS AND MAKE A FINAL JUMP IN FAITH TO OUR SADA GURU'S LOTUS FEET; THE FINAL LAP OF THE JOURNEY IS QUICKLY COMPLETED. MAY I REMIND ONCE AGAIN? Kabir Yeh Ghar Prem Ka, Khala Ka Ghar Nahin Sees Utaare Hath Kar, So Pasey Ghar Mahin Kabir, this is the abode of love Not the house of an aunt Only that one can enter here Who has relinquished all pride Kabir in this doha attempts to explain valor and fearlessness in love and devotion. A person who is able to defeat the passions of Anger, Carnality, Attachment, Greed and Enmity – the enemies within – is the valiant one. To be a lover or a true devotee is the job of a warrior and not of a coward. For love demands complete surrender of one's ego and a spirit full of compassion and poise. The abode of love is not like a visit to an aunt's house where the social rules of entertaining guests may be available. Instead in this abode of love one enters with the spirit of giving or complete surrender. Is a genuine offering to the Lord possible without surrendering oneself? Similarly, is love possible between two people when it is based on conditions? I hope that you have had a brief glimpse of what lays before you? Are you ready to take the plunge? May Pujya Gurudev give you the blessings of success! Jai Gurudev! Raj , ravi nukala <nukalar2002> wrote: > i thought self realisation is the last step towards god realisation > > > vishal gupta <ourpassions@v...> wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would like to know if any of you have had self-realisation which is the first step towards > god-realisation. and if yes what is the exact way you followed. > > How can tantra, mantra,yantra help me in this respect with gr8 speed? > > Thanks > Awaiting to hear lot of replies, > vishal > > rgnikhil [raj414@h...] > Monday, February 23, 2004 4:56 PM > > Re: Dainik Guru Puja- Scanning pages of Book- Copy Right? > > > Jai Gurudev! > > Dear friend, > > It is possible but don't we have to seek permission from Gurudham in > case we inadvertently infinge any copyright? Why don't you ask > Gurudham and inform us about this matter? Best wishes, Jai Gurudev > > , Nitin Dhanta <ndhanta> wrote: > > Jai Gurudev, > > > > It seems that many of Sadhaks with us do not know > > about "Tantrokt Prath: Mansik Guru Pujan". > > > > So it is requested if any Sadhak have facility of > > Scanner to scan mansik guru pujan pages from the book > > "Tantrokt Guru Pujan" then kindly mail it on the group > > for the help of other Sadhaks. > > > > > > Jai Gurudev > > > > > > Nitin Dhanta > > > > > ____________________ > __ > > India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, > services, tools and more. > > Go to: http://in.insurance./licspecial/index.html > > > > > Jay Gurudev > > Jay Gurudev > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 Thanks to all for your responses towards self realization. Today i have another question. I was in self reflextion mode and a thought came to my mind Lets say i want to wake up early morning at 4.00 am. Normally i wake at 6.00 am. I dont want any external help. So can i associate this event of waking me up at 4.00 am with something which is automatic for eg with breathing. If anyone already knows about this association technique with automatic actions such that desired bodily action takes place automatic , pls share with us. I welcome thoughts, suggestions on this from all. Thanks Vishal Gupta rgnikhil [raj414 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:02 PMSubject: Re: Self RealizationJai Gurudev!Dear Friend,The path to spirituality and siddhashram is not an easy one. Also, each person has a different and unique experience along the journey to attainment of self-realization. It all depends on your sanskars, the sincere efforts you put and most importantly your luck in finding a Sada Guru. I can also assure us that not many in this world are willing to show you the right path. Many will try to manipulate you and to utilize your wealth and efforts for personal gains. It is only the Sada Guru who can deliver you from this Bhava Sagar! But, again a Sada Guru will also not do all that with gr8 speed as you have put it! His blessings can be obtained only after total surrender to his lotus feet!!! Please refer to my messages on this website titled 'Samarpan-I & Samarpan-II'. I too can only point you to the source of all success that is the Lotus feet of Sada Gurudev! Rest is his grace and blessings!Now, regarding your question: How can tantra, mantra,yantra help me in this respect with gr8 speed?Tantra, mantra, yantra is part of our ancient heritage. This heritage and culture is older than all known to the western countries. It was born of the Rishi Parampara of our fore-fathers and pre-dates western civilization by more than 5000 years. Here is an example: A brief sketch of the impact of Bhagwad Gita on Famous Personalities: -Henry David Thoreau says: "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagvad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial." Ralph Waldo Emerson on the Gita: "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagwad-Gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us." Mahatma Gandhi says:"When disappoint stares me in the face and all alone I see notone ray of light, I go back to the Bhagvad Gita. I find a verse here and a verse there, and I immediately begin to smile in the midst of overwhelming tragedies." Dr. Annie Besant on the Gita"It is meant to lift the aspirant from the lower levels of renunciation, where objects are renounced, to the loftier heights where desires are dead, and where the yogi dwells in calm and ceaseless contemplation while his body and mind are actively employed in discharging the duties that fell to his lot in life."Swami Vivekananda says:"The Gita is a bouquet composed of the beautiful flowers ofspiritual truths collected from the Vedas and the Upanishads."****** The Gita was preached as a preparatory lesson for living worldly life with an eye to Release, Nirvana. My last prayer to everyone, therefore, is that one should not fail to thoroughly understand this ancient science of worldly life as early as possible in one's life. --- Lokmanya TilakThe Gita is one of the clearest and most comprehensive summaries of the perennial philosophy ever to have been done. Hence its enduring value, not only for the Indians, but also for all mankind. It is perhaps the most systematic spiritual statement of the perennial philosophy. --- Aldous HuxleyI believe that in all the living languages of the world, there is no book so full of true knowledge, and yet so handy. It teaches self-control, austerity, non-violence, compassion, and obedience to the call of duty for the sake of duty, and putting up a fight against unrighteousness (Adharma). To my knowledge, there is no book in the whole range of the world's literature so high above as theBhagavad-Gita, which is the treasure house of Dharma nor only for the Hindus but for all mankind. --- M. M. MalaviyaThe Gita is just one of the several ancient scriptures which were written by our fore-fathers/ Rishis. Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan can help you overcome obstacles that you face in your 'Bhautika and Adhyatamik' life. However, attainment of self-realization is not possible through reading books, or going to a satsanga or watching the spiritual shows on a television set. It is a matter or great effort under the guidance of a Sada Guru. So, you are faced by the basic problem of finding the Sada Guru (refer to my message titled– SAMARPAN-I & PART-II). Then comes the most important problem of all. As one wise man has put it: - "My problem is not my problem. I ammy problem!"WHICH LEADS US TO THE BASIC PARADIGM-HOW CAN WE BECOME A SHISHYA?WHAT IS THE DHARMA OF A SHISHYA?WHAT IS SAMARPAN TO THE LOTUS FEET OF THE SADA GURU?HOW CAN BE ONE WITH THE SADA GURU?ONCE YOU FIND THE ANSWER TO THESE BASIC QUESTIONS THAT A SADHAK MUST ASK OF ONESELF ATTAINMENT OF SELF-REALIZATION AND GOD'SREALIZATION IS ABSOLUTELY EASY!THE JOURNEY TO ATTAINMENT OF SELF-REALIZATION TAKES AN INFINITELY LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND EFFORT, BUT ONCE WE OVERCOME OUR FEARS AND DILEMMASAND MAKE A FINAL JUMP IN FAITH TO OUR SADA GURU'S LOTUS FEET; THE FINAL LAP OF THE JOURNEY IS QUICKLY COMPLETED.MAY I REMIND ONCE AGAIN?Kabir Yeh Ghar Prem Ka, Khala Ka Ghar NahinSees Utaare Hath Kar, So Pasey Ghar MahinKabir, this is the abode of loveNot the house of an auntOnly that one can enter hereWho has relinquished all prideKabir in this doha attempts to explain valor and fearlessness in loveand devotion. A person who is able to defeat the passions of Anger,Carnality, Attachment, Greed and Enmity – the enemies within– is the valiant one. To be a lover or a true devotee is the jobof a warrior and not of a coward. For love demands complete surrender of one's ego and a spirit full of compassion and poise.The abode of love is not like a visit to an aunt's house where thesocial rules of entertaining guests may be available. Instead in thisabode of love one enters with the spirit of giving or completesurrender.Is a genuine offering to the Lord possible without surrenderingoneself? Similarly, is love possible between two people when it isbased on conditions?I hope that you have had a brief glimpse of what lays before you? Are you ready to take the plunge? May Pujya Gurudev give you the blessings of success! Jai Gurudev! Raj--- In , ravi nukala <nukalar2002> wrote:> i thought self realisation is the last step towards god realisation > > > vishal gupta <ourpassions@v...> wrote:> Dear friends,> > I would like to know if any of you have had self-realisation which is the first step towards> god-realisation. and if yes what is the exact way you followed.> > How can tantra, mantra,yantra help me in this respect with gr8 speed?> > Thanks> Awaiting to hear lot of replies, > vishal> > rgnikhil [raj414@h...]> Monday, February 23, 2004 4:56 PM> To: > Re: Dainik Guru Puja- Scanning pages of Book- Copy Right?> > > Jai Gurudev!> > Dear friend,> > It is possible but don't we have to seek permission from Gurudham in > case we inadvertently infinge any copyright? Why don't you ask > Gurudham and inform us about this matter? Best wishes, Jai Gurudev> > , Nitin Dhanta <ndhanta> wrote:> > Jai Gurudev,> > > > It seems that many of Sadhaks with us do not know> > about "Tantrokt Prath: Mansik Guru Pujan".> > > > So it is requested if any Sadhak have facility of> > Scanner to scan mansik guru pujan pages from the book> > "Tantrokt Guru Pujan" then kindly mail it on the group> > for the help of other Sadhaks.> > > > > > Jai Gurudev> > > > > > Nitin Dhanta> > > > > ____________________> __> > India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, > services, tools and more. > > Go to: http://in.insurance./licspecial/index.html> > > > > Jay Gurudev> > > > > > > > > Jay Gurudev> > > > > > > > > Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want.Jay Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 HI I think that when one understand that he is pure consciousness alone that is self-realization. when he can see that all are just pure consciousness like him as well and so there is no difference between him or other humans,animals,trees etc that is god -realization am i thinking right? comments welcome and corrections appreciated vishal ravi nukala [nukalar2002 ]Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:43 PMSubject: Re: Self Realization i thought self realisation is the last step towards god realisation vishal gupta <ourpassions (AT) vsnl (DOT) net> wrote: Dear friends, I would like to know if any of you have had self-realisation which is the first step towards god-realisation. and if yes what is the exact way you followed. How can tantra, mantra,yantra help me in this respect with gr8 speed? Thanks Awaiting to hear lot of replies, vishal rgnikhil [raj414 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 4:56 PMSubject: Re: Dainik Guru Puja- Scanning pages of Book- Copy Right?Jai Gurudev!Dear friend,It is possible but don't we have to seek permission from Gurudham in case we inadvertently infinge any copyright? Why don't you ask Gurudham and inform us about this matter? Best wishes, Jai Gurudev--- In , Nitin Dhanta <ndhanta> wrote:> Jai Gurudev,> > It seems that many of Sadhaks with us do not know> about "Tantrokt Prath: Mansik Guru Pujan".> > So it is requested if any Sadhak have facility of> Scanner to scan mansik guru pujan pages from the book> "Tantrokt Guru Pujan" then kindly mail it on the group> for the help of other Sadhaks.> > > Jai Gurudev> > > Nitin Dhanta> > ______________________> India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. > Go to: http://in.insurance./licspecial/index.htmlJay GurudevJay Gurudev Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. Jay Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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