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Dear Vishal,

Self realization is god realization. There is no difference between the two of

them. All you need to do for this is to believe that all are one and you are

all. It may sound simple, but it is difficult to achieve. The difficulty is

because the mode of living now a days is "mind over matter". In self

realization, there is no defination of mind at all. So u need to "kill" the mind

to know the self.

Take for example Ramakrishna Paramahamsa.

He was known as Paramahamsa - just divide the word. You get Parama and Hamsa.

Parama is the supreme or ultimate or atomic.

Hamsa or swan is supposed to eb a divine bird - hamsa is actually the opposite

of SAHA and AHAM. Keep chanting SAHA:AHAM constantly - u get HAMSA.

SAHA:AHAM means YOU ARE ME. That is self realization.

Doing mantra and tantra with the yantras that support them will give you a path

to walk. This path is filled with a lot of mantras, tantras and yantras. Each of

these will tempt you to give you full satisfaction to what ever you seek.

The true Mantra is "OM PARAMA TATVAYA NARAYANAYA GURUBHUO NAMAHA"

The true Tantra is chanting this mantra constantly.

The true Yantra is your self.

 

Regards,

VB

 

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:46 pm

Digest Number 911

 

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> 1. Self Realization

> "vishal gupta" <ourpassions

> 2. Re: Dainik Guru Puja

> "rgnikhil" <raj414

> 3. In.

> "kamvena" <kamlasaran.nanhu

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> Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:30:55 +0530

> "vishal gupta" <ourpassions

> Self Realization

>

> Dear friends,

>

> I would like to know if any of you have had self-realisation which

> is the

> first step towards

> god-realisation. and if yes what is the exact way you followed.

>

> How can tantra, mantra,yantra help me in this respect with gr8 speed?

>

> Thanks

> Awaiting to hear lot of replies, :)

> vishal

>

> rgnikhil [raj414]

> Monday, February 23, 2004 4:56 PM

>

> Re: Dainik Guru Puja- Scanning pages of Book-

> Copy

> Right?

>

>

> Jai Gurudev!

>

> Dear friend,

>

> It is possible but don't we have to seek permission from

> Gurudham in

> case we inadvertently infinge any copyright? Why don't you ask

> Gurudham and inform us about this matter? Best wishes, Jai Gurudev

>

> , Nitin Dhanta <ndhanta> wrote:

> > Jai Gurudev,

> >

> > It seems that many of Sadhaks with us do not know

> > about "Tantrokt Prath: Mansik Guru Pujan".

> >

> > So it is requested if any Sadhak have facility of

> > Scanner to scan mansik guru pujan pages from the book

> > "Tantrokt Guru Pujan" then kindly mail it on the group

> > for the help of other Sadhaks.

> >

> >

> > Jai Gurudev

> >

> >

> > Nitin Dhanta

> >

> >

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> Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:44:40 -0000

> "rgnikhil" <raj414

> Re: Dainik Guru Puja

>

> Jai Gurudev,

>

> Dear Friend,

>

> I agree completely with you. Of course, if the knowledge that you

> intend to distribute between guru bhais is self-acquired? In our

> quest of spiritual fulfillment it is important to be clear about

> our

> rights and duties. Well now that you have the knowledge that you

> needed, you may like to give Guru dakshina! How about sending in a

> moneyorder to Gurudham or Rs.101/-? Once, Gurudev had explained

> that

> knowledge can be acquired by three ways.

>

> (1) When two equally knowledgable masters exchange their secret

> knowledge with each other.

> (2) When a Shishya does Guru sewa and earns knowledge by serving

> his

> master well.

> (3) When a Grahastha Shishya (A Shishya who is not a Sanyasi and

> cannot be in service of his master full-time) gives some monetary

> contribution to his master's mission!

>

> We have to consider how we have earned the knowledge that we have

> acquired! I had suggested in an earlier message that we can send a

> free copy of any book required by a needy person, who cannot

> afford

> to pay the cost of the same by using our own contribution. I am

> sure

> that all Shishyas can afford to procure their own copy of the

> books,

> tapes and CD's as they not only become a permanent part of our

> library but also help in preserving the sacred knowledge and also

> gives an impetus to Pujya Guru dev's Mission to spread his knowledge.

> This is the moral part of my message.

>

> Now, I am a student of law and therefore can assure you that

> exchanging scanned copies of books or articles published by an

> institution without explicit permission of the copyright owner is

> an

> infringement of copy right laws not only in India but

> Internationally. After 2005, under an international treaty signed

> by

> all nations of the world such infringements will lead to strict

> action.

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> Ignorance is not a defence in law.

>

> A passing thought! We must encourage healthy practices as it is

> becoming to all Shishya's of Pujya Gurudev. Also, it is our

> shishya

> dharma! You don't believe me? Please read columns in Mantra Tantra

> Yantra Vigyan regarding Shishya Dharma and also read the messages

> published by Pujya Gurudev. Or, please enlighten us as to how we

> can

> contribute our mite to the mission of our Pujya Gurudev?

>

> , Nitin Dhanta <ndhanta> wrote:

> > Jai Gurudev,

> >

> > Dear Anupam Ji,

> >

> > Thank you very much for mailing "Tantrokt Prath:

> > Mansik Guru Pujan". We hope it will be very useful to

> > other Sadhaks which are keen to know and do this

> > pujan. For helping spreading the knowledge of Pujya

> > Guru Ji thanks a lot again.

> >

> > Dear Raj ji,

> >

> > I think spreading free knowledge between our Guru

> > bhaies/bahans there is no violation of copyright.

> >

> > Spreading of knowledge/Gyan between more & more people

> > should our main aim than caring about copyrights.

> >

> > Moreover, if one spread it for non-commercial purpose,

> > it seems no crime.

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> > Jai Gurudev

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> > Nitin Dhanta

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> > > Nitin Dhanta <ndhanta> wrote: Jai

> > > Gurudev,

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> > > It seems that many of Sadhaks with us do not know

> > > about "Tantrokt Prath: Mansik Guru Pujan".

> > >

> > > So it is requested if any Sadhak have facility of

> > > Scanner to scan mansik guru pujan pages from the

> > > book

> > > "Tantrokt Guru Pujan" then kindly mail it on the

> > > group

> > > for the help of other Sadhaks.

> > >

> > >

> > > Jai Gurudev

> > >

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> > > Nitin Dhanta

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> Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:03:36 -0000

> "kamvena" <kamlasaran.nanhu

> In.

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> Jai Gurudev,

> Gurubhaies/bhans. I would like to visit both Delhi

> and Jodhpur ashram. I would like

> to obtain the correct address of both ashrams. ( The mailing address

> sometimes differ from the

> actual address)

> I have never been in India. I have a language barrior. I do not

> understand nor speak Hindi. I am

> hoping to do most travelling by using public transportation. I

> would like to enquire if it is very

> difficult to travel by the train or bus. Also how much a trip by

> train to Jodhpur will cost in Indian

> Rs. Your valuable information would be highly appreciated.

>

> Thank you very much in advance.

>

> Sincerely,

> k.n.

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