Digest Number 945

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> 1. naadi readings

> jeeneea kumaree

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> 2. Re: Kind Attn: All Female Sadhakas

> vatssalya saxsena

> <vats57

> 3. Re: to message "INTELLIGENCE?"

> "leondonjack"

> <leondonjack

> 4. Sadhana for ista karya siddi ?

> "snanduris" <snanduris

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> Message: 1

> Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:42:37 +0100 (BST)

> jeeneea kumaree <kumaree2004

> naadi readings

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> Dear Kanupriyaji,

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> I would be grateful if you could get naadi

> predications for me also.

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> With Warm Regards

> Rajlumari

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> jeeneea

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> Fri, 9 Apr 2004 22:48:23 -0700 (PDT)

> vatssalya saxsena <vats57

> Re: Kind Attn: All Female Sadhakas

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> DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE..TALK TO GURUDEV DIRECTLY

> --- Joydeep Ghosh <joydeepghosh79

> wrote:

> > my name is joydeep and i'm in the field of

> Spiritual

> > Quest and

> > Sadhana for the past 7 years.

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> > The reason for addressing This Forum on a help

> note

> > from all the

> > Female Sadhakas is in relation to a personal help.

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> > One of my Friend is into Kali Sadhana and she'd

> > asked me to help her

> > in conceptualize and understand the Signals that a

> > Female Sadhaka can

> > or have experienced and its significant impact on

> > the Sadhana.

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> > I do understand this fact that this is a Tantric

> > Sadhana and as such

> > cannot be discussed in Open Forum and most of the

> > information can be

> > discussed with a Female Sadhaka only.

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> > It is my sincere request to share your experience

> so

> > that it will

> > help in providing suitable guidelines for Kali

> > Sadhana.

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> > Please feel free to post your questions or comment

> > in regard to this

> > message at joydeepghosh79.

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> > Regards

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> > Joydeep

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> Hi leondonjack(sorry i don't 9 your name). Very nice

article written by you. i Must appreciate that. But i

agree with you by and large. but i have one point to

make What isckon preaches is Bhakti Yoga which is

primarily based on bhavna(Bhav). i feel that when

sadhak gets bhavuk in the love of god the vibrations

in his/ her body affects the various chakras and he

gets realized.. I myelsef is also initiated by Sad

Gurudev Narayan Dutt Shrimali and i feel in our

tradition also bhakti is required it may be in the

form of Guru Bhakti or the dev/devi bhakti. I think

you woould agree to me to some extent...anyways i

liked you way of writing. generally i don't read long

messages. But you kept me glued thought your

discussion..

 

 

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> Sat, 10 Apr 2004 09:12:32 -0000

> "leondonjack" <leondonjack

> Re: to message "INTELLIGENCE?"

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> Dear Damanakrsnadas,

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> Jai Guru Dev! Hare Krsna!

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> I don't fully understand the motive of your message

> here since its not addressed to

> anyone in particular and is not an answer to

> anyone's message. It looks like you

> happened to pass by and saw this list and decided

> everyone's into material and petty

> sadhana's (thus unintelligent) and you decided to

> post a message of exceptional

> intellingence. That's what they teach in ISKCON!

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> Well my dear, going back to GOD Head as they put it,

> and striving towards the

> spiritual contact is certainly intelligence. But

> then, there are two kinds of intelligence.

> One is your spiritual life towards which you should

> constantly strive, another is the

> practical intelligence - how to live in this world.

> Both are important and necessary!

> While dealing with the wordly problems and still

> make effort in your spiritual

> endeavours. This is intelligence. Krsna (as people

> in the west write the name) or

> Krishna as we in India write it, was a great example

> of this. So was Arjuna who didn't

> neglect any aspect of life. He was not sitting at

> one place and chanting 'Hare Krisna'

> and spending life in eating and serving prasad. He

> was a karma yogi and a sadhak of

> highest caliber.

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> Since you are still living in this material world,

> you are bound to have problems. And

> you cannot be successful in your spiritual

> endeavours with these problems because

> your attention and energy will go towards them again

> and again. Can you chant your

> rounds if your body is severly aching and enemies

> sitting outside your house to beat

> you up? Can you chant your rounds if you don't have

> enough to eat? Or if your wife is

> fighting with you all the time? Or if your kids get

> lost somewhere? Of course you

> would start praying for help! But this is not what

> gets you back!

> Don't you become happy when you get success in your

> material life? Didn't people at

> the time of Krsna did the same? Is all this vain?? A

> human, as long as he is alive, must

> strive for exellence for him and his near ones (if

> not for everyone). Certainly you

> cannot unsee life's problems. Didn't Krsna earn

> wealth? He was a King! Didn't

> Prabhupada earn wealth when he went around the world

> 17 times in one year? As he

> said to a journalist in the States who asked why he

> travelled in a Rolce Royce, he said

> Krsna had a more expensive chariot and that he could

> spend all the world's wealth for

> his organization!

> Arjuna and all others were Kings. Though they had to

> live in forests at times. All of

> them played politics in their lives and were

> successful as politicians, soldiers, and

> grahasthas besides being spiritually uplifted ones.

> To have wealth and live detached

> from it should be the ideal as said by Gurudev!

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> To say only going back to Godhead is the only

> intelligent

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