Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 --- wrote: > ------------------------ Sponsor > > There are 5 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. The strange case of a jeeva naadi > "qwerty asdfg" > <trishati > 2. Re: to message "INTELLIGENCE?" > "leondonjack" > <leondonjack > 3. Re: to article! > leon don <leondonjack > 4. RE: Re: to message "INTELLIGENCE?" > ge <pvd72 > 5. RE: Re: to message "INTELLIGENCE?" > G <pvd72 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:30:44 +0000 > "qwerty asdfg" <trishati > The strange case of a jeeva naadi > > > > [This message is not in displayable format] > > > > ______________________ > I agree with you. If sadguru is behind you then you can get free from Karma take the case of Swami Rama whos Death was predicted accurately by astrologers But his Guru announced that he will see the death of all those who predicted his death. There is one more example of one of our Gurubhai who himself knows astrology. His life line was very short(19 yrs) and he accurately predicted his death date. The event occured on the same date but he was saved by ou sadgurudev.So the effect of karmas get less effective/ effectiveless if you are in the service of a sadgurudev. ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:56:05 -0000 > "leondonjack" <leondonjack > Re: to message "INTELLIGENCE?" > > , "qwerty asdfg" > <trishati@h...> wrote: > > > Priye atmiya, > > Agreed! Karma finally plays a major role - past and > the present. > Past Karm determines your present and present would > determine your future! > As Lord Krishna said in the Bhagwad Gita - at the > end a person will be himself > responsible for everything that happened to him or > whatever he has gone through! > (I don't remember the exact phrase or the stanza > number) > > Also, if you meet a capable SadGuru and two > situations are there - > 1. If he wants to give you, and 2. You are ready to > take, > then I think, nothing is immposible! > To stress the importance of Guru even Ram and > Krishna, being almighty, > studied under capable Gurus! > > Jai Guru dev! > > Nitesh > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:07:00 -0700 (PDT) > leon don <leondonjack > Re: to article! > > > --- pankaj sharma <pankaj74_sharma > wrote: > > Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:18:07 +0100 (BST) > > pankaj sharma <pankaj74_sharma > > Re: to article! > > leondonjack <leondonjack > > > > Dear Nitesh, > > Jai Gurudev, > > > > It was indeed a pleasure to read your message. And > i > > fully share your views and feelings. I have never > > agreed to the opinion that one god is superior to > > other.I to some extent believe that they are > > different > > manifestations of the supreme being. You follow > any > > 1 > > and you will lead to same destination... > > It was nice to c ur mail... > > > > all the best for you spiritual endeavors. > > > > > > Regards > > Pankaj > > > > > > --- leondonjack <leondonjack wrote: > > > Jai > > Gurudev, > > > > > > Dear Pankaj, > > > > > > My name was written at the end of the mesage - > > > Nitesh > > > > > > I agree with you totally that 'bhakti > > > pradhan'sadhanas or > > > spiritual practices based on pure devotion are > > > certainly > > > valued highly and are a sure way to success. > Then, > > > whether it is > > > Guru bhakti, or isht bhakti. In fact, it is > > > definitely considered the main > > > pillar of one's spiritual Temple. I really > > > appreciate what organizations > > > like IsKcon have done to propagate bhakti around > > the > > > world. > > > For a devotee who is focused on one aspect > or > > > form of God, > > > other aspects become out of focus. It is > natural. > > > And because > > > of the ego (since you like something and start > > > recognizing it with your Self), > > > you also get attached to your beloved faith or > > form. > > > Fine! > > > But the only thing that detests me is - if the > > form > > > of God that you > > > love is true, why not his other forms are true > as > > > well? > > > Why to go on criticising other forms? Why make a > > > propaganda that > > > Since Krishna is Supreme God, Shiva > automatically > > > becomes a demiGod. > > > Just to say "come to us, we are better!" > > > Unfortunately I react not so well > > > towards, prejudice and biased statements based > on > > no > > > personal experience > > > and except God and his people in any form. > > > (That was one thing that brought me to Narayan > > Dutt > > > Shrimaliji, I could > > > get from him practical knowledge and not just > > > bookish lectures and theories > > > that I read at least a thousand volumes before) > > > > > > So, I heard them say Shiva is only about > > 'tamoguna'. > > > Ironically, the principal of a > > > withering out IsKon Gurukula in the west gave > away > > a > > > picture of Shiva to me just > > > because he thought that since all Shiva can do > is > > > destroy, the school is not > > > prospering. "Let's get rid of his picture." This > > is > > > mode of ingnorance. Since the > > > schooling is only one kind of vedantic training > > > where the knowledge acquired is > > > based on scriptures and no direct perception is > > > involved, people on a lower > > > level of religious/spiritual developement start > > > making biased conclusions based > === message truncated === ===== PANKAJ SHARMA ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your partner online. http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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