Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 , Satish Arigela <satisharigela> wrote: --- Harsha Ramamurthy <harsha_ramamurthy@m...> wrote: > "Harsha Ramamurthy" > <harsha_ramamurthy@m...> > satisharigela > Fri, 02 Jul 2004 23:43:11 -0500 > RE:Saptashati > > > People recite selections from Puranas like > Harivamsha, Devi Bhagavata, Vishnu Bhagavata, Garuda > Purana etc. However, these are not recited as a Mala > mantra like Saptashati. Saptashati belongs to a > totally different genre. Kavacha, Kilaka etc. > chanted traditionally are also not a part of > Markandeya Purana. The Krama followed, wherein > Saptashati is not merely a Puranic passage, but a > Mala mantra, is essentially Tantric, derived from > Rudrayamala, Skandayamala, Damara Tantra, Varahi > Tantra, Katyayani Tantra etc. So, one can chant > Saptashati without Kavachadi Traya, Nyasas or the > Navarna Japa, but only as a Puranic Stuti and not as > a Siddha Mala mantra. The Pramana is in Katyayani > Tantra which says: Saptashati chanted without > Navarna Japa is like trying to eat a mango seed and > hoping to grow a mango tree and consume the > resulting mango fruit. Ample warning about Yogini > Shapa is also mentioned. Even otherwise, people have > not understood Saptashati. If one observes Bhashyas > like Gup > tavati etc., the first three Shlokas of Saptashati > give out in code, the Navarna Mantra. Navarna Mantra > may be seen in lots of places in Saptashati. Only > with Navarna Japa, Saptashati is a mantra or else it > is a Stotra. One should go by Shastra Pramanas, then > the Sampradaya and words of the elders and the > enlightened like Bhaskaracharya, Haradutta, > Paramacharya etc, and should not conclude based on > the practices of people. Shastras clearly state that > a person should NEVER attempt to do Saptashati (as a > Mala Mantra) without Navarna Diksha. There are ample > instances of adverse effects observed if this rule > is not followed. Sri Kalyanananda Bharati has > explained this in detail in one of his books dealing > with Mantra Shastra. Nine lakhs of Japa is > prescribed as a pre-requisite to chant Saptashati. > Actually the elevation of from Stotra to Stotramaka > Mala mantra happens due to the energy of the > associated Moola mantra. It is the Moola mantra that > opens the power of the Stotra to t > he Sadhaka and makes it a mantra for him. Without > the Moola mantra, the Sadhaka only gets an iota of > the limitless energy of these Stotras. The key to > open these boxes is necessarily the Moola mantra. > Also, Saptashati requires Shapoddhara and Utkilana > mantras, which again are `mantras' only > if received from the Guru. Moreover, Ratri Sukta and > Devi Sukta should be chanted with a proper > understanding of the Swaras. > > Saptashati and Navarna are related in two ways. > While during Purashcharana of Saptashati (Mala > mantra), chanting Navarna as a necessary Anga of > Saptashati (Damara, Skandayamala). The other is the > recitation of Saptashati as a part of Navarna > Purashcharana (Durga Kalpadruma, Rudrayamala, > Katyayani, Varahi Tantras). In the first case, > Navarna is an absolute Anga of Saptashati. In the > second case, the primary importance is for Navarna. > Thus, Navarna is an absolute necessity in either > cases, and the only way to do it is to obtain it > from a Guru. > > One needs to firmly believe the fact that the Guru > arrives when one is ready for it. One need not have > to go in search of one, or try to please Sridevi > only by chanting Lalita Sahasranama, Saptashati or > Kavachas, which require certain Adhikaras on the > part of the Sadhaka. Other Stotras / Sahasranamas > etc., which are not guarded by these restrictions > should be recited to obtain divine grace. A Durga > temple was opened in some place in Andhra and the > temple committee appointed a priest. After few > months, the priest went with Prasadam to H H Sri > Chandrashekhara Bharati Mahasannidhanam and said, > "Your Holiness, I have recited Saptashati 108 > times and brought you Prasadam. Please accept it and > bless me". Mahaswamigal gazed at him for a > second and said, "How is your daughter?" > The startled Brahmana answered, "She is unwell > these days. She is suffering from epileptic > fits". Mahaswamigal immediately said, > "Without Navakashari you have been cha > nting Saptashati. This is like banging your head on > an iron box to open it. You have been sent here by > Sharadambal only because of your past Samskaras and > Bhakti. Please receive the mantra as per the proper > means from Sri Srikantha Sastrigal, perform Laksha > Japa and then start chanting Saptashati. Without a > Guru, don't try experimenting with Mani, > Mantra and Aushadha. Adi Acharya has gracefully > given us divine Stotras with miraculous powers. The > uninitiated should chant these Stotras with faith > and obtain blessings of the divine [Krishnaswamayyar > – Divine Light of Sringeri]". > > || Srimatre namaH || Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile./maildemo --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Very interesting and good written mail. May I know abt ur back ground PLS. Ithi Sham Srinath Ram <srinath_atreya > wrote: , Satish Arigela <satisharigela> wrote:--- Harsha Ramamurthy <harsha_ramamurthy@m...>wrote:> "Harsha Ramamurthy"> <harsha_ramamurthy@m...>> satisharigela> Fri, 02 Jul 2004 23:43:11 -0500> RE:Saptashati> > > People recite selections from Puranas like> Harivamsha, Devi Bhagavata, Vishnu Bhagavata, Garuda> Purana etc. However, these are not recited as a Mala> mantra like Saptashati. Saptashati belongs to a> totally different genre. Kavacha, Kilaka etc.> chanted traditionally are also not a part of> Markandeya Purana. The Krama followed, wherein> Saptashati is not merely a Puranic passage, but a> Mala mantra, is essentially Tantric, derived from> Rudrayamala, Skandayamala, Damara Tantra, Varahi> Tantra, Katyayani Tantra etc. So, one can chant> Saptashati without Kavachadi Traya, Nyasas or the> Navarna Japa, but only as a Puranic Stuti and not as> a Siddha Mala mantra. The Pramana is in Katyayani> Tantra which says: Saptashati chanted without> Navarna Japa is like trying to eat a mango seed and> hoping to grow a mango tree and consume the> resulting mango fruit. Ample warning about Yogini> Shapa is also mentioned. Even otherwise, people have> not understood Saptashati. If one observes Bhashyas> like Gup> tavati etc., the first three Shlokas of Saptashati> give out in code, the Navarna Mantra. Navarna Mantra> may be seen in lots of places in Saptashati. Only> with Navarna Japa, Saptashati is a mantra or else it> is a Stotra. One should go by Shastra Pramanas, then> the Sampradaya and words of the elders and the> enlightened like Bhaskaracharya, Haradutta,> Paramacharya etc, and should not conclude based on> the practices of people. Shastras clearly state that> a person should NEVER attempt to do Saptashati (as a> Mala Mantra) without Navarna Diksha. There are ample> instances of adverse effects observed if this rule> is not followed. Sri Kalyanananda Bharati has> explained this in detail in one of his books dealing> with Mantra Shastra. Nine lakhs of Japa is> prescribed as a pre-requisite to chant Saptashati.> Actually the elevation of from Stotra to Stotramaka> Mala mantra happens due to the energy of the> associated Moola mantra. It is the Moola mantra that> opens the power of the Stotra to t> he Sadhaka and makes it a mantra for him. Without> the Moola mantra, the Sadhaka only gets an iota of> the limitless energy of these Stotras. The key to> open these boxes is necessarily the Moola mantra.> Also, Saptashati requires Shapoddhara and Utkilana> mantras, which again are `mantras' only> if received from the Guru. Moreover, Ratri Sukta and> Devi Sukta should be chanted with a proper> understanding of the Swaras. > > Saptashati and Navarna are related in two ways.> While during Purashcharana of Saptashati (Mala> mantra), chanting Navarna as a necessary Anga of> Saptashati (Damara, Skandayamala). The other is the> recitation of Saptashati as a part of Navarna> Purashcharana (Durga Kalpadruma, Rudrayamala,> Katyayani, Varahi Tantras). In the first case,> Navarna is an absolute Anga of Saptashati. In the> second case, the primary importance is for Navarna.> Thus, Navarna is an absolute necessity in either> cases, and the only way to do it is to obtain it> from a Guru. > > One needs to firmly believe the fact that the Guru> arrives when one is ready for it. One need not have> to go in search of one, or try to please Sridevi> only by chanting Lalita Sahasranama, Saptashati or> Kavachas, which require certain Adhikaras on the> part of the Sadhaka. Other Stotras / Sahasranamas> etc., which are not guarded by these restrictions> should be recited to obtain divine grace. A Durga> temple was opened in some place in Andhra and the> temple committee appointed a priest. After few> months, the priest went with Prasadam to H H Sri> Chandrashekhara Bharati Mahasannidhanam and said,> "Your Holiness, I have recited Saptashati 108> times and brought you Prasadam. Please accept it and> bless me". Mahaswamigal gazed at him for a> second and said, "How is your daughter?"> The startled Brahmana answered, "She is unwell> these days. She is suffering from epileptic> fits". Mahaswamigal immediately said,> "Without Navakashari you have been cha> nting Saptashati. This is like banging your head on> an iron box to open it. You have been sent here by> Sharadambal only because of your past Samskaras and> Bhakti. Please receive the mantra as per the proper> means from Sri Srikantha Sastrigal, perform Laksha> Japa and then start chanting Saptashati. Without a> Guru, don't try experimenting with Mani,> Mantra and Aushadha. Adi Acharya has gracefully> given us divine Stotras with miraculous powers. The> uninitiated should chant these Stotras with faith> and obtain blessings of the divine [Krishnaswamayyar> – Divine Light of Sringeri]". > > || Srimatre namaH || Do you ?Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.http://mobile./maildemo--- End forwarded message ---Jay Gurudev New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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