Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 , "Prakash" <vishwadev@i...> wrote: > Hi, > > Actually, in this forum or somewhere else i read that Gurudev himself said that we can still do some sadhna without Diksha but we will have to do it 1.25 lakh. Please correct me if i am wrong as i only read it in forum. Of course with Diksha success is more certain. > > regards, > Prakash Prakash, In principle guru diksha entitles people to perform every sadhana given by Gurudev. However, whatever vatsalya ji says is correct in its own right. And since he speaks from his own experience take his words seriously. Shrivastav uncle I have been very fond of, so I can dare to disagree with him publically just like I could privately. I don't think everyone should just start baglamukhi and chinnamasta as he believes. Energy levels have to be increased first to be receptive. Do it by Diksha the easier way or do it by months or years of sadhanas the harder way. Mind you the harder way is much harder. After reading his post I was reflecting. See he too speaks from his own experience, his own circle which will constitute devotees of Gurudev with a minimum financial means. So everything he says is correct for him as well as us, since we all belong to the same social strata. Will that mean that some shishyas I have seen in Gurudham who save slowly an amount of rs 540 for guru diksha and go back without buying a mala or an aasan because they cannot afford it are doomed to fail in all sadhanas? They will never be able to perform havans, they may never take shaktipaat dikshas ….Then that's an unfair Guru and not worth becoming a disciple of. No?? But this is incorrect…. Your thinking, the reasoning associated plays a very important role. Number one even before the dikshas will come devotion. Consciously going and seeking diksha is one such means, but there are others as well. Be assured that if for monetary reasons you are unable to take a diksha help will still come. And a perfect guru can work through perfection, but he can also work through imperfection. If you go and seek a diksha with the feelings that he mentioned that it is Gurudev's energy that works through us you are bound to get it in loads. But, if you are sceptical about the money business don't take dikshas they may not work in any case. I am quoting Gurudev now from one of his cassettes (vijay siddhi) where he says about performing Guru mantra before Gurudevs picture. "Bari hi shraddha se bhavana ke sath mantra jap Karen, aur agar shradhha nahin hai to us photo ko uthayen aur utha ke bahar phaink den, us mantra jap se kisi prakaar ka koi fayda hone wala nahin hai" there too he makes recommendations of malas to use for Guru mantra jap – take a sfatik mala, nahin hai then take a hakeek mala aur agar who bhi nahin hai sak se achchi kar mala (count on fingers)…. On taking Diksha I quote from matangi sadhana where he says Yadi sadhak khali mantra jap kar leta hai tab bhi safalta mil sakti hai, yadi sadhak keval saaton charan ki diksha praapta kar leta hai tab bhi safalta mil jati hai yadi sadhak ek nishta ho kar kar ke poorna sadhana karta hai tab bhi safalta mil jaati hai … But then the best to do is again if I did not quote the sadhak I met correctly. Guru diksha guru hridayasth diskha. 125000 mantra jap of Guru mantra before any other 125000 anusthaan and whetever 125000 anusthaan you do take shaktipaat diksha first and then perform a 125000 anusthaan of the mantra given in diksha to you. It will be the most right mantra for you to chant and don't doubt this. That said I am rather upset with my Guru these days, so if he wants me to write here, he has to compensate for what I went through for writing here and I am not afraid to say so. Its Ok. Everything divine springs from love. Everything evil springs from fear. Fear and love cannot coexist. So until I am compensated for and get an explanation. Good bye Jai gurudev anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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