Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Hi, sadhana to what i know(and is written in the website too)involves diety worship, in which you tend to stare at the image of any god/ishta dev/goddesses/aspara etcetc and have conversation with them, offer fruit and throw it. Then What is the difference between sadhana and Tratak? Are not both the same except for the throwing of fruit???? Can anyone explain the difference between the two? , "Prakash" <vishwadev@i...> wrote: > Hi, > > Actually, in this forum or somewhere else i read that Gurudev himself said that we can still do some sadhna without Diksha but we will have to do it 1.25 lakh. Please correct me if i am wrong as i only read it in forum. Of course with Diksha success is more certain. > > regards, > Prakash > > - > vatssalya saxsena > > Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:51 PM > Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan > > > Well, to do a sadhana without taking shaktipaat diksha > is a sheer waste of time. You may end up struggling > for years together and nothing will happen. It's the > force of gurudev through shaktipaat which gives us > success in sadhana. I interact with so many sadhaks in > real life and I, so far, have not come across anyone > who has succeeded without taking shaktipaat diksha. > However, if you otherwise keep taking shaktipaat > dikshas on regular intervals (I have taken 27, and > some I have repeated also. In every camp in or around > bombay I take dikshas to keep my energy level high), > then by virtue of your high energy level, you may > succeed in "prayogs" given in the magazine MTYV. > > I can share a recent experience with you. In dec 2002, > I had decided to do a particular sadhana ( I won't > name it, and please don't ask the details in personal > mail). But there was no way for me to take shaktipaat > diksha as I was hardpressed with my office work and > the next camp in bombay was scheduled only in late > January 2003. So, I started the sadhana ( although > sceptics may say that since my mind was conditioned > for failure without diksha, so I didn't succeed) and > did the jaap with full force. Nothing happened except > that my resolve got stronger and stronger. But, when > on 25th Jan 2003 I took diksha and started it from the > next day, I got results within a week's time. Such is > the force of shaktipaat diksha and thousands of > sadhaks world over will vouch for it. I know a sadhak > personally who took shaktipaat diksha of Bagla 4 times > from gurudev and only then she materialised before him > in actual human form. So,now I feel you are > sufficiently informed about the pitfalls. > > Jai Gurudev > > > --- Prakash <vishwadev@i...> wrote: > > > what are the exact time and date plz > > > > - > > C Kumar > > > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:37 AM > > URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur > > Bhairvi Sadhan > > > > > > Jai Gurudev > > > > Srivastava Uncle at Delhi Gurudham has informed > > that this time is > > very good for the Tripur Bhairvi Sadhna. It is > > given in the July-98 > > MTYV Book at Page 60. If anybody want to perform. > > He can use this > > best time. > > > > Jai Gurudev > > Charanjit > > > > > > > > > > Jay Gurudev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > b.. To from this group, send an > > email to: > > > > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay Gurudev Sponsor > > > > > > > -- ---------- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 I have heard in Guru Vani that Dikcha (Gur Dikchya) is a MUST for doing any sadhana. Subsequent approval need to be sought for other sadhana for getting success. Any Deity you worship will contact your Guru for blessing. Cheers Jaya Guru Dev bishnu - Prakash Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:35 PM Re: Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan Hi, Actually, in this forum or somewhere else i read that Gurudev himself said that we can still do some sadhna without Diksha but we will have to do it 1.25 lakh. Please correct me if i am wrong as i only read it in forum. Of course with Diksha success is more certain. regards, Prakash - vatssalya saxsena Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:51 PM Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan Well, to do a sadhana without taking shaktipaat dikshais a sheer waste of time. You may end up strugglingfor years together and nothing will happen. It's theforce of gurudev through shaktipaat which gives ussuccess in sadhana. I interact with so many sadhaks inreal life and I, so far, have not come across anyonewho has succeeded without taking shaktipaat diksha.However, if you otherwise keep taking shaktipaatdikshas on regular intervals (I have taken 27, andsome I have repeated also. In every camp in or aroundbombay I take dikshas to keep my energy level high),then by virtue of your high energy level, you maysucceed in "prayogs" given in the magazine MTYV. I can share a recent experience with you. In dec 2002,I had decided to do a particular sadhana ( I won'tname it, and please don't ask the details in personalmail). But there was no way for me to take shaktipaatdiksha as I was hardpressed with my office work andthe next camp in bombay was scheduled only in lateJanuary 2003. So, I started the sadhana ( althoughsceptics may say that since my mind was conditionedfor failure without diksha, so I didn't succeed) anddid the jaap with full force. Nothing happened exceptthat my resolve got stronger and stronger. But, whenon 25th Jan 2003 I took diksha and started it from thenext day, I got results within a week's time. Such isthe force of shaktipaat diksha and thousands ofsadhaks world over will vouch for it. I know a sadhakpersonally who took shaktipaat diksha of Bagla 4 timesfrom gurudev and only then she materialised before himin actual human form. So,now I feel you aresufficiently informed about the pitfalls.Jai Gurudev--- Prakash <vishwadev (AT) intnet (DOT) mu> wrote:> what are the exact time and date plz> > - > C Kumar > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:37 AM> URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur> Bhairvi Sadhan> > > Jai Gurudev> > Srivastava Uncle at Delhi Gurudham has informed> that this time is > very good for the Tripur Bhairvi Sadhna. It is> given in the July-98 > MTYV Book at Page 60. If anybody want to perform.> He can use this > best time.> > Jai Gurudev> Charanjit> > > > > Jay Gurudev> > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > >> Links> > > /> > b.. To from this group, send an> email to:> > > c.. Your use of is subject to the> > > > Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!Jay GurudevJay Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I have heard in Guru Vani that Dikcha (Gur Dikchya) is a MUST for doing any sadhana. Subsequent approval need to be sought for other sadhana for getting success. Any Deity you worship will contact your Guru for blessing. Cheers Jaya Guru Dev bishnu - Prakash Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:35 PM Re: Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan Hi, Actually, in this forum or somewhere else i read that Gurudev himself said that we can still do some sadhna without Diksha but we will have to do it 1.25 lakh. Please correct me if i am wrong as i only read it in forum. Of course with Diksha success is more certain. regards, Prakash - vatssalya saxsena Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:51 PM Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan Well, to do a sadhana without taking shaktipaat dikshais a sheer waste of time. You may end up strugglingfor years together and nothing will happen. It's theforce of gurudev through shaktipaat which gives ussuccess in sadhana. I interact with so many sadhaks inreal life and I, so far, have not come across anyonewho has succeeded without taking shaktipaat diksha.However, if you otherwise keep taking shaktipaatdikshas on regular intervals (I have taken 27, andsome I have repeated also. In every camp in or aroundbombay I take dikshas to keep my energy level high),then by virtue of your high energy level, you maysucceed in "prayogs" given in the magazine MTYV. I can share a recent experience with you. In dec 2002,I had decided to do a particular sadhana ( I won'tname it, and please don't ask the details in personalmail). But there was no way for me to take shaktipaatdiksha as I was hardpressed with my office work andthe next camp in bombay was scheduled only in lateJanuary 2003. So, I started the sadhana ( althoughsceptics may say that since my mind was conditionedfor failure without diksha, so I didn't succeed) anddid the jaap with full force. Nothing happened exceptthat my resolve got stronger and stronger. But, whenon 25th Jan 2003 I took diksha and started it from thenext day, I got results within a week's time. Such isthe force of shaktipaat diksha and thousands ofsadhaks world over will vouch for it. I know a sadhakpersonally who took shaktipaat diksha of Bagla 4 timesfrom gurudev and only then she materialised before himin actual human form. So,now I feel you aresufficiently informed about the pitfalls.Jai Gurudev--- Prakash <vishwadev (AT) intnet (DOT) mu> wrote:> what are the exact time and date plz> > - > C Kumar > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:37 AM> URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur> Bhairvi Sadhan> > > Jai Gurudev> > Srivastava Uncle at Delhi Gurudham has informed> that this time is > very good for the Tripur Bhairvi Sadhna. It is> given in the July-98 > MTYV Book at Page 60. If anybody want to perform.> He can use this > best time.> > Jai Gurudev> Charanjit> > > > > Jay Gurudev> > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > >> Links> > > /> > b.. To from this group, send an> email to:> > > c.. Your use of is subject to the> > > > Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!Jay GurudevJay GurudevJay Gurudev Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 JAI GURUDEV. 100 % SUCCESS IN WHICH OF THE SIMPLE / SARAL SADHANAS (SADHANAS AT LOWER LEVELS)IS POSSIBLE WITHOUR MUCH EFFORTS. " PLEASE INFORM ME ". MANOJ GILDA. On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 VIKAS BHARDWAJ wrote : >it is absolutely incorrect that doing a sadhana without taking diksha is sheer waste of time because doing any sadhana is not at all waste of time,i have done sadhanas without diksha and attained complete success 100%,if initially at the start you have to take some dikshas to enter and proceed in the sadhana marg,but one can attain 100% success in sadhana without diksha,but for higher level sadhanas diksha is a must that is true for sure..as stated by prakash success in sadhana is more certain by taking diksha. >- > "Prakash" >Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:05:06 +0400 >To: >Re: Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan >Hi, > >Actually, in this forum or somewhere else i read that Gurudev himself said that we can still do some sadhna without Diksha but we will have to do it 1.25 lakh. Please correct me if i am wrong as i only read it in forum. Of course with Diksha success is more certain. > >regards, >Prakash > >- > >vatssalya saxsena >To: > >Sent: >Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:51 PM >Subject: >Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan >Well, to do a sadhana without taking shaktipaat diksha >is a sheer waste of time. You may end up struggling >for years together and nothing will happen. It's the >force of gurudev through shaktipaat which gives us >success in sadhana. I interact with so many sadhaks in >real life and I, so far, have not come across anyone >who has succeeded without taking shaktipaat diksha. >However, if you otherwise keep taking shaktipaat >dikshas on regular intervals (I have taken 27, and >some I have repeated also. In every camp in or around >bombay I take dikshas to keep my energy level high), >then by virtue of your high energy level, you may >succeed in "prayogs" given in the magazine MTYV. >I can share a recent experience with you. In dec 2002, >I had decided to do a particular sadhana ( I won't >name it, and please don't ask the details in personal >mail). But there was no way for me to take shaktipaat >diksha as I was hardpres > sed with my office work and >the next camp in bombay was scheduled only in late >January 2003. So, I started the sadhana ( although >sceptics may say that since my mind was conditioned >for failure without diksha, so I didn't succeed) and >did the jaap with full force. Nothing happened except >that my resolve got stronger and stronger. But, when >on 25th Jan 2003 I took diksha and started it from the >next day, I got results within a week's time. Such is >the force of shaktipaat diksha and thousands of >sadhaks world over will vouch for it. I know a sadhak >personally who took shaktipaat diksha of Bagla 4 times > from gurudev and only then she materialised before him >in actual human form. So,now I feel you are >sufficiently informed about the pitfalls. >Jai Gurudev >--- Prakash <vishwadev (AT) intnet (DOT) mu> wrote: >> what are the exact time and date plz >> >> - >> > C Kumar >> >> Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:37 AM >> URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur >> Bhairvi Sadhan >> >> >> Jai Gurudev >> >> Srivastava Uncle at Delhi Gurudham has informed >> that this time is >> very good for the Tripur Bhairvi Sadhna. It is >> given in the July-98 >> MTYV Book at Page 60. If anybody want to perform. >> He can use this >> best time. >> >> Jai Gurudev >> Charanjit >> >> >> >> >> Jay Gurudev >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sponsor >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> Links >> >> >> >/ >> >> b.. To from this group, send an >> email to: >> >> >> c.. Your use of is subject to the >> >> >> >> > &nb > sp; > > > > >Jay Gurudev >Jay Gurudev >-- > >_____________ >Find what you are looking for with the >Lycos Yellow Pages >Jay Gurudev > Sponsor > > Links > >/ > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service >. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Jaya Guru Dev Deities can give you Kripa to obtain worldly power and Guru directs you to Mokchya. And Sat Guru Takes you to Purnata. Prabhu Nikhil is capable and willing to make you perfect. What would one want after that. Cheers Bishnu - chinmasta Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:29 AM Re: Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan if one is connected to the deityby the guru himself then why should the deity contact the guru again?gmed <bnl (AT) gmed (DOT) wlink.com.np> wrote: I have heard in Guru Vani that Dikcha (Gur Dikchya) is a MUST for doing any sadhana. Subsequent approval need to be sought for other sadhana for getting success. Any Deity you worship will contact your Guru for blessing. Cheers Jaya Guru Dev bishnu - Prakash Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:35 PM Re: Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan Hi, Actually, in this forum or somewhere else i read that Gurudev himself said that we can still do some sadhna without Diksha but we will have to do it 1.25 lakh. Please correct me if i am wrong as i only read it in forum. Of course with Diksha success is more certain. regards, Prakash - vatssalya saxsena Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:51 PM Important / Re: URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur Bhairvi Sadhan Well, to do a sadhana without taking shaktipaat dikshais a sheer waste of time. You may end up strugglingfor years together and nothing will happen. It's theforce of gurudev through shaktipaat which gives ussuccess in sadhana. I interact with so many sadhaks inreal life and I, so far, have not come across anyonewho has succeeded without taking shaktipaat diksha.However, if you otherwise keep taking shaktipaatdikshas on regular intervals (I have taken 27, andsome I have repeated also. In every camp in or aroundbombay I take dikshas to keep my energy level high),then by virtue of your high energy level, you maysucceed in "prayogs" given in the magazine MTYV. I can share a recent experience with you. In dec 2002,I had decided to do a particular sadhana ( I won'tname it, and please don't ask the details in personalmail). But there was no way for me to take shaktipaatdiksha as I was hardpressed with my office work andthe next camp in bombay was scheduled only in lateJanuary 2003. So, I started the sadhana ( althoughsceptics may say that since my mind was conditionedfor failure without diksha, so I didn't succeed) anddid the jaap with full force. Nothing happened exceptthat my resolve got stronger and stronger. But, whenon 25th Jan 2003 I took diksha and started it from thenext day, I got results within a week's time. Such isthe force of shaktipaat diksha and thousands ofsadhaks world over will vouch for it. I know a sadhakpersonally who took shaktipaat diksha of Bagla 4 timesfrom gurudev and only then she materialised before himin actual human form. So,now I feel you aresufficiently informed about the pitfalls.Jai Gurudev--- Prakash <vishwadev (AT) intnet (DOT) mu> wrote:> what are the exact time and date plz> > - > C Kumar > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:37 AM> URGENT MESSAGE reg Tripur> Bhairvi Sadhan> > > Jai Gurudev> > Srivastava Uncle at Delhi Gurudham has informed> that this time is > very good for the Tripur Bhairvi Sadhna. It is> given in the July-98 > MTYV Book at Page 60. If anybody want to perform.> He can use this > best time.> > Jai Gurudev> Charanjit> > > > > Jay Gurudev> > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > >> Links> > > /> > b.. To from this group, send an> email to:> > > c.. Your use of is subject to the> > > > Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!Jay GurudevJay GurudevJay Gurudev Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Enter now. Jay Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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