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Dear brothers,

Thank you very very much for all your support. My problem is

solved. May Gurudev bless you all and please accept my heartfelt

thanks.

I will write maybe on and off. But am not so sure, thank you again

for all the kind words that come in my direction. They remind me of

a news item I read on BBC a long while ago. It was about Prince

Charles visiting some country I forget which and being presented a

bronze statue of him saving the world. Humorously and scornfully

written, it talked about his ears were not standing like they always

do, his hair looked thicker than ever and then there was a piece of

cloth to cover his modesty. And that charles was "amazed" by the

statue. I feel similarly, when I read something good about me in

spiritual forum like this. I don't know how to take it because most

of it is not true…

 

Anyway, today I went visiting a Chinese neighbour. To my great

misfortune there sat a European lady there preaching the bible. Out

of politeness I was hooked. Would I not like to listen and learn the

bible –sure why not? I am interested in religion, I had responded it

would be my pleasure. I wish I was less of a liar. In fact I had

been enthusiastic, maybe I will learn something. She had a few

books, she was doing it for free. Working very hard in the name of

God, when most people went out and got drunk she spent her evenings

spreading the name of God, and we being non Christians and

foreigners were very good candidates. We read slowly taking turns

from a book and referred to the bible in between. Slowly, we were

explained about the garden of Eden, a promise about a paradise. It

is written in the Bible about a world where there is no pain no

misery no hunger no enmity. God created us and such a time will

come. We were not meant for illness to whither and die, we will live

for ever. I was taught patiently to cross refer. I saw the effort

and tried as best as I could to hide my arrogance and impatience.

My thoughts went to a man I fought with but why is not relevant

here "don't you see, most people are stupid and cannot think for

themselves?" I had been taken aback by the simplicity

with which they were said. Whatever be the purpose behind creating

our differences, looking down upon less fortunate could not have

been behind it. In between I heard "this is science." Yes, it is. I

have heard this again and again. Obviously there is something about

science that makes everyone want to call their subject of

interest "science" Science… science has got nothing to do with

faith, science works on pure reason and is a celebration of human

intellect. Science has made us what we are. It is the beauty of

science that I have been able to look at much bigger men , my

teachers and say with confidence I think you are totally wrong. And

they have heard without bringing in our levels in between. It goes

totally against the definition of a religious master – a guru.

Whatever be the reasons – I cannot be given a skullful of faeces to

eat as I read on the site of babaji and how one courageous disciple

actually put it into his mouth and then it changed into something

nice I forget what. I am sorry if I am showing my true colours. It

is better if you all know. Surrender is not my asset, dishonesty is

not my flaw

So went on the discourse. In between the phone rang. It was an

African friend –kenny who had patiently tried to explain to me how I

should give up backward religions and become a christian. I had

smiled and asked him if it would guarantee a womanizer like him a

place in heaven. This phone was an opportunity to escape I left the

room with my phone, but I could not use it. I knew I was being

waited for anxiously, I went back. The Chinese girl is leaving, but

this lady would come for me. She has an operation, she cannot come

for two weeks. Its Ok, please do not worry so much for me, I will

manage without learning the bible for two weeks. But, nah her

daughter will come to take care of me, to help me, to educate me.

There was no point of discussion. Religion works on faith. She has

faith that God was going to create a special paradise –she was

playing her role in sincerity in honesty. It would be a very

hardhearted God to remain untouched by this effort. I guess

eventually it will lead to wisdom.

 

Tu daya kare to maan bhi ho

Bhakti se paida gyaan bhi ho

Tu kripa kare kalyaan bhi ho

Ham tere hi gun gate hain

tere jaikaar manate hain jai jai ambe jai jagdambe

 

They call themselves jehodas witnesses. They are neither catholics

nor protestants.

 

How could I refuse this earnestness? Yes you are welcome to my

place. The lesson was longer today to get me interested-two hours

instead of one. I lived through it afterall. I read a mail here "how

to have faith." The pain there touched me, Debajani, we will talk

soon on soulmates.

jaigurudev

anu

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Sis... Welcome Back ..

Very Glad to see your email..

 

Jai Shree Guru Dev

 

 

devi_bhagat wrote:

 

>Dear brothers,

>Thank you very very much for all your support. My problem is

>solved. May Gurudev bless you all and please accept my heartfelt

>thanks.

>I will write maybe on and off. But am not so sure, thank you again

>for all the kind words that come in my direction. They remind me of

>a news item I read on BBC a long while ago. It was about Prince

>Charles visiting some country I forget which and being presented a

>bronze statue of him saving the world. Humorously and scornfully

>written, it talked about his ears were not standing like they always

>do, his hair looked thicker than ever and then there was a piece of

>cloth to cover his modesty. And that charles was "amazed" by the

>statue. I feel similarly, when I read something good about me in

>spiritual forum like this. I don't know how to take it because most

>of it is not true…

>

>Anyway, today I went visiting a Chinese neighbour. To my great

>misfortune there sat a European lady there preaching the bible. Out

>of politeness I was hooked. Would I not like to listen and learn the

>bible –sure why not? I am interested in religion, I had responded it

>would be my pleasure. I wish I was less of a liar. In fact I had

>been enthusiastic, maybe I will learn something. She had a few

>books, she was doing it for free. Working very hard in the name of

>God, when most people went out and got drunk she spent her evenings

>spreading the name of God, and we being non Christians and

>foreigners were very good candidates. We read slowly taking turns

>from a book and referred to the bible in between. Slowly, we were

>explained about the garden of Eden, a promise about a paradise. It

>is written in the Bible about a world where there is no pain no

>misery no hunger no enmity. God created us and such a time will

>come. We were not meant for illness to whither and die, we will live

>for ever. I was taught patiently to cross refer. I saw the effort

>and tried as best as I could to hide my arrogance and impatience.

>My thoughts went to a man I fought with but why is not relevant

>here "don't you see, most people are stupid and cannot think for

>themselves?" I had been taken aback by the simplicity

>with which they were said. Whatever be the purpose behind creating

>our differences, looking down upon less fortunate could not have

>been behind it. In between I heard "this is science." Yes, it is. I

>have heard this again and again. Obviously there is something about

>science that makes everyone want to call their subject of

>interest "science" Science… science has got nothing to do with

>faith, science works on pure reason and is a celebration of human

>intellect. Science has made us what we are. It is the beauty of

>science that I have been able to look at much bigger men , my

>teachers and say with confidence I think you are totally wrong. And

>they have heard without bringing in our levels in between. It goes

>totally against the definition of a religious master – a guru.

>Whatever be the reasons – I cannot be given a skullful of faeces to

>eat as I read on the site of babaji and how one courageous disciple

>actually put it into his mouth and then it changed into something

>nice I forget what. I am sorry if I am showing my true colours. It

>is better if you all know. Surrender is not my asset, dishonesty is

>not my flaw

>So went on the discourse. In between the phone rang. It was an

>African friend –kenny who had patiently tried to explain to me how I

>should give up backward religions and become a christian. I had

>smiled and asked him if it would guarantee a womanizer like him a

>place in heaven. This phone was an opportunity to escape I left the

>room with my phone, but I could not use it. I knew I was being

>waited for anxiously, I went back. The Chinese girl is leaving, but

>this lady would come for me. She has an operation, she cannot come

>for two weeks. Its Ok, please do not worry so much for me, I will

>manage without learning the bible for two weeks. But, nah her

>daughter will come to take care of me, to help me, to educate me.

>There was no point of discussion. Religion works on faith. She has

>faith that God was going to create a special paradise –she was

>playing her role in sincerity in honesty. It would be a very

>hardhearted God to remain untouched by this effort. I guess

>eventually it will lead to wisdom.

>

>Tu daya kare to maan bhi ho

>Bhakti se paida gyaan bhi ho

>Tu kripa kare kalyaan bhi ho

>Ham tere hi gun gate hain

>tere jaikaar manate hain jai jai ambe jai jagdambe

>

>They call themselves jehodas witnesses. They are neither catholics

>nor protestants.

>

>How could I refuse this earnestness? Yes you are welcome to my

>place. The lesson was longer today to get me interested-two hours

>instead of one. I lived through it afterall. I read a mail here "how

>to have faith." The pain there touched me, Debajani, we will talk

>soon on soulmates.

>jaigurudev

>anu

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