Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Dear Spiritual Brothers and Sisters, While browsing, I got the following interesting article from http://astralvoyage.com/ and thought to share with you all including our sister Anu: ***************************************** I know I'll probably be opening myself up for some debate on this one, but it is my opinion that in the true sense of the word, soul mates do not exist. I believe there are "soul favorites". These are souls that we have shared past experiences with and upon meeting them again, feel a deep kinship for. These relationships can carry on for multiple lifetimes, each cycle deepening the feelings from the one before. So when we meet a soul that we feel an immense love and kinship with, it is my opinion that this is a history of experiences manifesting itself. So what is awry with the concept of a soul mate? If they existed, why did none of the masters elude to them? Why didn't Buddha, Christ or Mohammed hook up with their soul mate and spread the good word in couple fashion? If anyone could have found them, then surely these masters would have! In the progress of the soul, learning to love another person is very important. But it is my belief that in the final cycles of the physical existence, there can be no division of Love. What I mean by that is, with unconditional love, can I love any one human more than another? Where there is division, there is not unconditional love for all. This is why no master took a wife (or husband). The supreme lesson of love, is not of a sexual nature. It is the unconditional loving of all things created by the universal force. Loving a mate serves the same purpose as loving a child. It teaches us to love outside of ourselves and learn worthy traits such as sharing, forgiveness, acceptance, tolerance and patience. We find it easier to love our children and mates, but ultimately, this is expressed to all. No division... Why do we seek soul mates? As hard as it is to say this, it's usually to fill a void within ourselves. We feel incomplete, empty, lonely, and we think a "soul mate" will fill those voids. The fear of being alone motivates us as well. But should we put this sort of burden on anyone? If you love yourself unconditionally, then you will not carry fear in your heart of abandonment and pain, for you are complete. A soul "favorite" should enhance your life only, not create it. Yet we search and search, placing our needs on this person and that, never fulfilled, always searching. Ironically, the greater the hole in someone, the harder they fall in what they perceive as "love", because the potential for loss is so much greater. A lot of what I am saying depends on your beliefs. For example, what do you think happens to you when you die? If you turn to dust, well, the soul mate issue is moot. If you're off to heaven or hell, you could probably spend eternity with someone, but gosh, that seems like a long time. We have trouble staying with anyone here on earth for very long let alone for eternity! Also, if this belief held true for soul mates, then why do they say, "Until Death Do You Part."? Now if you believe in the karmic cycle and different planes of existence, then once you eventually leave the lower planes (both physical and astral) then the body doesn't exist and the whole soul mate thing doesn't make sense. With no physical body, we won't be doing much of anything like eating, sleeping, or procreating. These are some lofty concepts, I know. but the greatest love we can find is within ourselves. Once we achieve that, then we are truly a gift to others when we give ourselves in a relationship, whether that be to a friend, relative or "soul favorite". ***************************************** Regards Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Dear spiritual brother, Im sorry you are wrong kumar. Soul mates do exist. Even buddha ,jesus, mohammed had soul mates. For jesus it was MaryMagdalene, for buddha it was goutami a female nun, and for muhammed it was Ayesha. Every cosmic ion is seperated into two one yin and one yang. soul favourites are a different thing. But only when a person is meeting his spiritual destiny soon can he meet his soul mate. Else he might meet her or him casually. Also great masters never reveal their soul mates. And the disciples edit many of their personal information and give just the golden ones for the disciples to follow.And it is not love or unconditional love that comes into play when you talk of soulmates. It is an existential thing. You just exist fully with your soulmate. and finally the salvation of spirit comes and fructifies with this union. Also you have a wrong opinion that mate should always be your wife. The mate can even be your child or sister.Love is love it is pure and unalloyed it can be shown towads anyone not just your significant other! These are not just my view but the views of some rishis and siddhas whom I see regularly in my meditations and tantric practices. However it is upto you and other spiritual brothers and sisters to accept or reject my views. God is the ultimate truth and the answer. who am I? before him! PARA PARA PARABRAHMAM, DATTU >"C. P. Kumar" <cpkumar > > > > Soul Mates: Do They Exist? >Fri, 10 Sep 2004 04:37:27 -0700 (PDT) > >Dear Spiritual Brothers and Sisters, > >While browsing, I got the following interesting >article from http://astralvoyage.com/ and thought to >share with you all including our sister Anu: > >***************************************** > >I know I'll probably be opening myself up for some >debate on this one, but it is my opinion that in the >true sense of the word, soul mates do not exist. > >I believe there are "soul favorites". These are souls >that we have shared past experiences with and upon >meeting them again, feel a deep kinship for. These >relationships can carry on for multiple lifetimes, >each cycle deepening the feelings from the one before. >So when we meet a soul that we feel an immense love >and kinship with, it is my opinion that this is a >history of experiences manifesting itself. > >So what is awry with the concept of a soul mate? If >they existed, why did none of the masters elude to >them? Why didn't Buddha, Christ or Mohammed hook up >with their soul mate and spread the good word in >couple fashion? If anyone could have found them, then >surely these masters would have! > >In the progress of the soul, learning to love another >person is very important. But it is my belief that in >the final cycles of the physical existence, there can >be no division of Love. What I mean by that is, with >unconditional love, can I love any one human more than >another? Where there is division, there is not >unconditional love for all. This is why no master took >a wife (or husband). The supreme lesson of love, is >not of a sexual nature. It is the unconditional loving >of all things created by the universal force. > >Loving a mate serves the same purpose as loving a >child. It teaches us to love outside of ourselves and >learn worthy traits such as sharing, forgiveness, >acceptance, tolerance and patience. We find it easier >to love our children and mates, but ultimately, this >is expressed to all. No division... > >Why do we seek soul mates? As hard as it is to say >this, it's usually to fill a void within ourselves. We >feel incomplete, empty, lonely, and we think a "soul >mate" will fill those voids. The fear of being alone >motivates us as well. But should we put this sort of >burden on anyone? If you love yourself >unconditionally, then you will not carry fear in your >heart of abandonment and pain, for you are complete. A >soul "favorite" should enhance your life only, not >create it. Yet we search and search, placing our needs >on this person and that, never fulfilled, always >searching. Ironically, the greater the hole in >someone, the harder they fall in what they perceive as >"love", because the potential for loss is so much >greater. > >A lot of what I am saying depends on your beliefs. For >example, what do you think happens to you when you >die? If you turn to dust, well, the soul mate issue is >moot. If you're off to heaven or hell, you could >probably spend eternity with someone, but gosh, that >seems like a long time. We have trouble staying with >anyone here on earth for very long let alone for >eternity! Also, if this belief held true for soul >mates, then why do they say, "Until Death Do You >Part."? Now if you believe in the karmic cycle and >different planes of existence, then once you >eventually leave the lower planes (both physical and >astral) then the body doesn't exist and the whole soul >mate thing doesn't make sense. With no physical body, >we won't be doing much of anything like eating, >sleeping, or procreating. > >These are some lofty concepts, I know. but the >greatest love we can find is within ourselves. Once we >achieve that, then we are truly a gift to others when >we give ourselves in a relationship, whether that be >to a friend, relative or "soul favorite". > >***************************************** > >Regards >Kumar > > > 1 Paisa No Reserve Auctions. T-Shirts, Shirts, Kurtas, Apparels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 , "C. P. Kumar" <cpkumar> wrote: > Dear Spiritual Brothers and Sisters, > > While browsing, I got the following interesting > article from http://astralvoyage.com/ and thought to > share with you all including our sister Anu: > > thank you kumar ji for all your kind words directed towards me; a very special thanks for the gospels of ramakrishna, as well as your views on soul mates. they more or less sum up what i have to say. i am 100 percent sure i have no soul mate. And I view wordly relations with a kind of detachments. I do not even believe in an individual soul for me and I dont care whether any religion sanctions it or not. I am just a chunk of a continuum. Further more I see no contradiction between rebirth and salvation. Bizarre as this may seem. That said I just feel very disoreinted and cannot at this time sort anyone elses romantic idea of soulmate. any way, more not so soon jai gurudev anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Hi GuruBhai/Guru Bahen Jai Gurudev In that case, was Radha the soulmate of Lord Krishna? Was Seeta the soulmate of Lord Rama? My view is Rama or Krishna were masters like Sai Baba or our Guru Dev or Mata Amritanandamayi. Contemporary masters have not revealed who is their soulmate and so we tend to believe soulmates do not exist. Another question is : Is the soulmate supposed to be of opposite sex? Jai Gurudev Mahadevan Venkitaraman , "qwerty asdfg" <trishati@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 yes anuji that is correct.there is nothing like soulmate.but sometimes u feel and experience some people at a much deeper level than body,but then again it may be just a sade saathi in ur kundali making u feel that.if one feels that someone is his/her soulmate then it is not good for him/her.i had been in a similar situation and i coudnt get over it.and when there was no other way left i had to do a ucchathan prayog on myself. , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote: > , "C. P. Kumar" <cpkumar> wrote: > > Dear Spiritual Brothers and Sisters, > > > > While browsing, I got the following interesting > > article from http://astralvoyage.com/ and thought to > > share with you all including our sister Anu: > > > > > thank you kumar ji for all your kind words directed towards me; a > very special thanks for the gospels of ramakrishna, as well as your > views on soul mates. they more or less sum up what i have to say. > i am 100 percent sure i have no soul mate. And I view wordly > relations with a kind of detachments. I do not even believe in an > individual soul for me and I dont care whether any religion > sanctions it or not. I am just a chunk of a continuum. Further more > I see no contradiction between rebirth and salvation. Bizarre as > this may seem. > > That said I just feel very disoreinted and cannot at this time sort > anyone elses romantic idea of soulmate. > any way, more not so soon > jai gurudev > anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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