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Once I asked a similar question to a great saint. His answer was yes but I

wasn't convinced because I couldn't understand how is it possible?

 

Well one can certainly see the past and future, there is no doubt about it.

 

Mentally one can get immersed in the past or future, which will be as good as

Virtual Reality.

 

Going in a past physical world seems like lot more difficult.

A new solid world will have to be created (Assuming there is 1 universe which

exists at 1 point in time). If we look along time there is a universe

corresponding to each time.

 

If we want to a certain place and at a certain time coordinate then we will

transform only those local time-space coordinates. Its better then taking entire

universe back to that time. Now if we mess around in that space time pocket you

change the space time data in that local space-time region and when we come back

it will be a changed world. Its because although a local region of space & time

was transformed but there was interaction between

that local space time region and the rest of the world.

 

Forward and reverse transformations didn't result in the same world because we

changed the data in between. Well something like Jpeg image, you compress your

image in to a jpeg image and and when you uncompress your jpeg image you will

find its little different from your original image.

 

So it might be possible but requires a lot to do and a lot of caution.

 

Thanks for asking the question I finally understand the logic which all the

science fiction movies apply.

 

 

Jai Gurudev!

Anurag

 

 

 

 

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Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM

 

will i get here answer of my ques ever?

 

 

 

 

i asked how can we travel to an other

time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to go

in another time-space?

 

is it possible actually?

 

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Have faith and do OM NAMO NARAYANAYA and you will get what you desire

because Vishnu purana says whatever you desire you will get from this

mantra.

 

Sadagopa iyengar, USA

 

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> time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to go

> in another time-space?

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I remember Shastriji once told me about "Parlok gaman

sadhana". That was similar to astral projection. You

can pursue the matter with shastriji and I am sure

he'll help you out.

Jai gurudev

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i dont think it is possible.

 

sumalatha

 

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> i asked how can we travel to an other

> time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to go

> in another time-space?

>

> is it possible actually?

>

> regards

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it is known in simple terms as grandfather syndrome....if u go back in time and

kill ur grandfather ,,,,then where from will u be born?

 

explain in laymen's lingo things!!

Dattu

>Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com>

>

>"''" <>

>RE: will i get here answer of my ques ever?

>Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:17:56 +0530

>

>

>

>Once I asked a similar question to a great saint. His answer was yes but I

wasn't convinced because I couldn't understand how is it possible?

>

>Well one can certainly see the past and future, there is no doubt about it.

>

>Mentally one can get immersed in the past or future, which will be as good as Virtual Reality.

>

>Going in a past physical world seems like lot more difficult.

>A new solid world will have to be created (Assuming there is 1 universe which

exists at 1 point in time). If we look along time there is a universe

corresponding to each time.

>

>If we want to a certain place and at a certain time coordinate then we will

transform only those local time-space coordinates. Its better then taking

entire universe back to that time. Now if we mess around in that space time

pocket you change the space time data in that local space-time region and when

we come back it will be a changed world. Its because although a local region of

space & time was transformed but there was interaction between

>that local space time region and the rest of the world.

>

>Forward and reverse transformations didn't result in the same world because we

changed the data in between. Well something like Jpeg image, you compress your

image in to a jpeg image and and when you uncompress your jpeg image you will

find its little different from your original image.

>

>So it might be possible but requires a lot to do and a lot of caution.

>

>Thanks for asking the question I finally understand the logic which all the

science fiction movies apply.

>

>

>Jai Gurudev!

>Anurag

>

>

>

>

>satyendra k gupta [rsmultimediauk ]

>Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM

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i am sure there must be some saadhna for it//

 

 

 

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> i dont think it is possible.

>

> sumalatha

>

> , satyendra k gupta

> <rsmultimediauk> wrote:

> >

> > i asked how can we travel to an other

> > time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to

> go

> > in another time-space?

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> > is it possible actually?

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dear anurag,

 

thank you for your reply with interesting information.

 

for some , threre is no "time" as such...accepted by

some of the british scientists too. so a clue to get

rid of this space-time equations.

 

if we talk in terms of vedas, all this universe is a

dream of god actually, (god=?, according to vedas, the

light actually, light with special smell, color and

taste).

 

every thing here in this world, are just the pictures

being broadcasted (in 4 dimensions) with the help of

that unseen powerful light (unseen by us, many sadhaks

have seen it), its like a movie beaing broadcasted on

screen with 2 dimensions with the help of a projector.

now, if we some how get the position of the source of

that light(poswer), we can replay things,,even from

the start of the movie (real world movie),,,,may be

the origion of this milkyway or earth or our own

birth,,in that way we can see the past,,and if we have

the source, we can see the future too....

 

may be this is travlling between time-space??

 

this is just my opinion, i dont know the facts behind

it...just trying to meet someone who did it

actually...

 

regards

satyendra k gupta

 

 

 

 

--- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

wrote:

>

>

> Once I asked a similar question to a great saint.

> His answer was yes but I wasn't convinced because I

> couldn't understand how is it possible?

>

> Well one can certainly see the past and future,

> there is no doubt about it.

>

> Mentally one can get immersed in the past or future,

> which will be as good as Virtual Reality.

>

> Going in a past physical world seems like lot more

> difficult.

> A new solid world will have to be created (Assuming

> there is 1 universe which exists at 1 point in

> time). If we look along time there is a universe

> corresponding to each time.

>

> If we want to a certain place and at a certain time

> coordinate then we will transform only those local

> time-space coordinates. Its better then taking

> entire universe back to that time. Now if we mess

> around in that space time pocket you change the

> space time data in that local space-time region and

> when we come back it will be a changed world. Its

> because although a local region of space & time was

> transformed but there was interaction between

> that local space time region and the rest of the

> world.

>

> Forward and reverse transformations didn't result in

> the same world because we changed the data in

> between. Well something like Jpeg image, you

> compress your image in to a jpeg image and and when

> you uncompress your jpeg image you will find its

> little different from your original image.

>

> So it might be possible but requires a lot to do and

> a lot of caution.

>

> Thanks for asking the question I finally understand

> the logic which all the science fiction movies

> apply.

>

>

> Jai Gurudev!

> Anurag

>

>

>

>

> satyendra k gupta

> [rsmultimediauk]

> Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM

>

> will i get here answer of my

> ques ever?

>

>

>

>

> i asked how can we travel to an other

> time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to go

> in another time-space?

>

> is it possible actually?

>

> regards

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that is basically for "moksha"...not for these type of

sidhis...

 

 

--- sadagopa_iyengar <sadagopa_iyengar

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> Have faith and do OM NAMO NARAYANAYA and you will

> get what you desire

> because Vishnu purana says whatever you desire you

> will get from this

> mantra.

>

> Sadagopa iyengar, USA

>

> , satyendra k gupta

> <rsmultimediauk> wrote:

> >

> > i asked how can we travel to an other

> > time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to

> go

> > in another time-space?

> >

> > is it possible actually?

> >

> > regards

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vayu gaman and parlok gaman, par-kaya gaman are

different types..i know them....this is different,

what i concluded from my own past experience that for

time travelling, the person has to "die" actually, and

take re birth again in different time,,,,and again

death and birth ot come back to an other time,,,,and

so on.....

this is basically changing every atom of the body ...

i am searching for the actual method for it..

 

by the way, give me the contact address of shashtri

ji..

 

thanks.

 

regards

satyendra k gupta

lucknow, india

 

--- vatssalya saxsena <vats57 wrote:

>

> I remember Shastriji once told me about "Parlok

> gaman

> sadhana". That was similar to astral projection. You

> can pursue the matter with shastriji and I am sure

> he'll help you out.

> Jai gurudev

> --- satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk

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> > i asked how can we travel to an other

> > time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to

> go

> > in another time-space?

> >

> > is it possible actually?

> >

> > regards

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THIS IS TO STATE THAT EVERY THING IS POSSIBLE , NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE IN TANTRA.

THE SADHNA BY WHICH U COULD TRAVEL TO ANOTHER WORLD IS SOME TIME PARTLY HIDDEN.

 

THE OUT OF BODY OR CALLED SOOKSHAM SHARREER YATRA THROUGH OUR ASTRAL BODY CAN

TRAVEL BY LEAVING OUR PHYSICAL BODY . THIS IS CALLED OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCE .

THROUGH THIS SADHNA FIRST COMPLETING IN THIS SADHNA AND THEN LATER PROCEED TO

ITS NEXT LEVEL CAN MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO TRAVEL IN OTHER WORLD IN ASTRAL BODY.

THIS IS USUALLY DONE ON CHAKRA MEDITATION .

 

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i dont think it is possible. sumalatha,

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i believe that people are confused here..

i am asking for time travelling, not travelling to

another place....

 

same place but after/before specified time duration...

 

is there anyone to help?

 

regards

satyendra

 

--- sumit sharma <sumit290880 wrote:

> dear one

> THIS IS TO STATE THAT EVERY THING IS POSSIBLE ,

> NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE IN TANTRA. THE SADHNA BY WHICH

> U COULD TRAVEL TO ANOTHER WORLD IS SOME TIME PARTLY

> HIDDEN.

>

> THE OUT OF BODY OR CALLED SOOKSHAM SHARREER YATRA

> THROUGH OUR ASTRAL BODY CAN TRAVEL BY LEAVING OUR

> PHYSICAL BODY . THIS IS CALLED OUT OF BODY

> EXPERIENCE . THROUGH THIS SADHNA FIRST COMPLETING IN

> THIS SADHNA AND THEN LATER PROCEED TO ITS NEXT LEVEL

> CAN MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO TRAVEL IN OTHER WORLD IN

> ASTRAL BODY. THIS IS USUALLY DONE ON CHAKRA

> MEDITATION .

>

> WITH REGARDS

> SUMIT SHARMA

>

> sahasranama098 <sahasranama098 wrote:

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> i dont think it is possible.

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> > time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to

> go

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> > is it possible actually?

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every sadhna has its own limitations. so i think if

there is such sadhna to travel between different time,

it wud also have its limitations..

 

may be if person travel to another time, he can only

see things, but can not be seen or touched...or can

not touch anything physically..

 

just think, there are sadhnas, thru which people

interact with souls and get answers of their queries,

but can not touch them....

 

regards

 

--- qwerty asdfg <trishati wrote:

 

 

 

it is known in simple terms as grandfather

syndrome....if u go back in time and kill ur

grandfather ,,,,then where from will u be born?

 

 

 

explain in laymen's lingo things!!

 

Dattu

 

 

 

 

>Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

>

>"''"

<>

>RE: will i get here answer of my

ques ever?

>Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:17:56 +0530

>

>

>

>Once I asked a similar question to a great saint. His

answer was yes but I wasn't convinced because I

couldn't understand how is it possible?

>

>Well one can certainly see the past and future, there

is no doubt about it.

>

>Mentally one can get immersed in the past or future,

which will be as good as Virtual Reality.

>

>Going in a past physical world seems like lot more

difficult.

>A new solid world will have to be created (Assuming

there is 1 universe which exists at 1 point in time).

If we look along time there is a universe

corresponding to each time.

>

>If we want to a certain place and at a certain time

coordinate then we will transform only those local

time-space coordinates. Its better then taking entire

universe back to that time. Now if we mess around in

that space time pocket you change the space time data

in that local space-time region and when we come back

it will be a changed world. Its because although a

local region of space & time was transformed but there

was interaction between

>that local space time region and the rest of the

world.

>

>Forward and reverse transformations didn't result in

the same world because we changed the data in between.

Well something like Jpeg image, you compress your

image in to a jpeg image and and when you uncompress

your jpeg image you will find its little different

from your original image.

>

>So it might be possible but requires a lot to do and

a lot of caution.

>

>Thanks for asking the question I finally understand

the logic which all the science fiction movies apply.

>

>

>Jai Gurudev!

>Anurag

>

>

>

>

>satyendra k gupta

[rsmultimediauk]

>Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM

>

> will i get here answer of my ques

ever?

>

>

>

>

>i asked how can we travel to an other

>time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to go

>in another time-space?

>

>is it possible actually?

>

>regards

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Hi Trishati,

 

I was thinking of finding a good analogy from real life. I will

think over it and if I get anything I will

Share it.

 

Satyendra well as such matter is just one form of expression of energy.

I think souls can be touched but again in terms of energy.

 

One example.

An act of kindness touches ones soul.

 

For things to happen one has to get to the same level i.e speak the same

language.

Square will fit in sqaures, triangles in triangles.

 

Regards,

Anurag

 

--- satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk

wrote:

 

>

> every sadhna has its own limitations. so i think if

> there is such sadhna to travel between different

> time,

> it wud also have its limitations..

>

> may be if person travel to another time, he can only

> see things, but can not be seen or touched...or can

> not touch anything physically..

>

> just think, there are sadhnas, thru which people

> interact with souls and get answers of their

> queries,

> but can not touch them....

>

> regards

>

> --- qwerty asdfg <trishati wrote:

>

>

>

> it is known in simple terms as grandfather

> syndrome....if u go back in time and kill ur

> grandfather ,,,,then where from will u be born?

>

>

>

> explain in laymen's lingo things!!

>

> Dattu

>

>

>

>

> >Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

> >

> >"''"

> <>

> >RE: will i get here answer of

> my

> ques ever?

> >Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:17:56 +0530

> >

> >

> >

> >Once I asked a similar question to a great saint.

> His

> answer was yes but I wasn't convinced because I

> couldn't understand how is it possible?

> >

> >Well one can certainly see the past and future,

> there

> is no doubt about it.

> >

> >Mentally one can get immersed in the past or

> future,

> which will be as good as Virtual Reality.

> >

> >Going in a past physical world seems like lot more

> difficult.

> >A new solid world will have to be created (Assuming

> there is 1 universe which exists at 1 point in

> time).

> If we look along time there is a universe

> corresponding to each time.

> >

> >If we want to a certain place and at a certain time

> coordinate then we will transform only those local

> time-space coordinates. Its better then taking

> entire

> universe back to that time. Now if we mess around in

> that space time pocket you change the space time

> data

> in that local space-time region and when we come

> back

> it will be a changed world. Its because although a

> local region of space & time was transformed but

> there

> was interaction between

> >that local space time region and the rest of the

> world.

> >

> >Forward and reverse transformations didn't result

> in

> the same world because we changed the data in

> between.

> Well something like Jpeg image, you compress your

> image in to a jpeg image and and when you uncompress

> your jpeg image you will find its little different

> from your original image.

> >

> >So it might be possible but requires a lot to do

> and

> a lot of caution.

> >

> >Thanks for asking the question I finally understand

> the logic which all the science fiction movies

> apply.

> >

> >

> >Jai Gurudev!

> >Anurag

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >satyendra k gupta

> [rsmultimediauk]

> >Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM

> >

> > will i get here answer of my

> ques

> ever?

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> >i asked how can we travel to an other

> >time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to

> go

> >in another time-space?

> >

> >is it possible actually?

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dear anurag

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> Satyendra well as such matter is just one form of

> expression of energy.

> I think souls can be touched but again in terms of

> energy.

 

TRUE, SOULS CAN BE TOUCHED BUT UNDER PHYSICAL SCIENCE,

BUT NOT ALLOWED IN VEDIC SCIENCE.

>

> One example.

> An act of kindness touches ones soul.

 

THIS IS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. I AM NOT

MENTIONING ANYTHING RELATED TO THE EMOTIONS OF

SOMEONE,,,,BUT THE HIGHER STATE OF SADHNAS...

 

I HAVE CALLED SO MANY TIMES, THE SOULS FROM "SOOKSHMA

JAGAT" AND HAVE DONE INTERACTION WITH THEM...STILL FEW

THINGS ARE BEYOND MY LIMIT OF KNOWLEDGE,,,,LOOKING FOR

IT...

 

ACCORDING TO ONE GREAT SADHAK, SOULS MUST NOT BE

TOUCHED (I MEAN PERSON SHOULD NOT TRY TO TOUCH THEM)

ONLY COMMUNICATION IS ALLOWED....MAY BE SOME ONE HERE

HAVING THAT COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE COULD EXPLAIN..

 

 

>

> For things to happen one has to get to the same

> level i.e speak the same language.

> Square will fit in sqaures, triangles in triangles.

 

I KNOW HOW TO TRAVEL IN SPACE, HOW TO FLY,,,,

BUT I DONT KNOW HOW TO GO TO DIFFERENT TIME.......

STILL IN SEARCH...

 

 

>

> Regards,

> Anurag

>

> --- satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk

> wrote:

>

> >

> > every sadhna has its own limitations. so i think

> if

> > there is such sadhna to travel between different

> > time,

> > it wud also have its limitations..

> >

> > may be if person travel to another time, he can

> only

> > see things, but can not be seen or touched...or

> can

> > not touch anything physically..

> >

> > just think, there are sadhnas, thru which people

> > interact with souls and get answers of their

> > queries,

> > but can not touch them....

> >

> > regards

> >

> > --- qwerty asdfg <trishati wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > it is known in simple terms as grandfather

> > syndrome....if u go back in time and kill ur

> > grandfather ,,,,then where from will u be born?

> >

> >

> >

> > explain in laymen's lingo things!!

> >

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> > ques ever?

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Once I asked a similar question to a great saint.

> > His

> > answer was yes but I wasn't convinced because I

> > couldn't understand how is it possible?

> > >

> > >Well one can certainly see the past and future,

> > there

> > is no doubt about it.

> > >

> > >Mentally one can get immersed in the past or

> > future,

> > which will be as good as Virtual Reality.

> > >

> > >Going in a past physical world seems like lot

> more

> > difficult.

> > >A new solid world will have to be created

> (Assuming

> > there is 1 universe which exists at 1 point in

> > time).

> > If we look along time there is a universe

> > corresponding to each time.

> > >

> > >If we want to a certain place and at a certain

> time

> > coordinate then we will transform only those local

> > time-space coordinates. Its better then taking

> > entire

> > universe back to that time. Now if we mess around

> in

> > that space time pocket you change the space time

> > data

> > in that local space-time region and when we come

> > back

> > it will be a changed world. Its because although a

> > local region of space & time was transformed but

> > there

> > was interaction between

> > >that local space time region and the rest of the

> > world.

> > >

> > >Forward and reverse transformations didn't result

> > in

> > the same world because we changed the data in

> > between.

> > Well something like Jpeg image, you compress your

> > image in to a jpeg image and and when you

> uncompress

> > your jpeg image you will find its little different

> > from your original image.

> > >

> > >So it might be possible but requires a lot to do

> > and

> > a lot of caution.

> > >

> > >Thanks for asking the question I finally

> understand

> > the logic which all the science fiction movies

> > apply.

> > >

> > >

> > >Jai Gurudev!

> > >Anurag

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >satyendra k gupta

> > [rsmultimediauk]

> > >Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM

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> > ever?

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >i asked how can we travel to an other

> > >time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to

> > go

> > >in another time-space?

> > >

> > >is it possible actually?

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Hi Satyendra,

 

you are right. I can understand it at a level of thougths.

And at level of thoughts its more easier, because you are just transforming

Space time data as compared to physical objects.

 

But converting that in to physical is something which is little hard to grasp.

Notion of time is relative just like space.

 

Remember the series of questions by Gargi. Earth is contained within solar

system.

Solar system within Milky way. Milky way within universe and Universe within

......

 

Same goes with the time. Space and time co-exist. If no space then no time.

 

I guess nothing is as mysterious and hard to understand as so called

"Universe" and "soul"

 

 

 

satyendra k gupta [rsmultimediauk]

Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43 PM

; Goel Anurag-A20572

RE: will i get here answer of my ques ever?

 

 

 

 

dear anurag,

 

thank you for your reply with interesting information.

 

for some , threre is no "time" as such...accepted by

some of the british scientists too. so a clue to get

rid of this space-time equations.

 

if we talk in terms of vedas, all this universe is a

dream of god actually, (god=?, according to vedas, the

light actually, light with special smell, color and

taste).

 

every thing here in this world, are just the pictures

being broadcasted (in 4 dimensions) with the help of

that unseen powerful light (unseen by us, many sadhaks

have seen it), its like a movie beaing broadcasted on

screen with 2 dimensions with the help of a projector.

now, if we some how get the position of the source of

that light(poswer), we can replay things,,even from

the start of the movie (real world movie),,,,may be

the origion of this milkyway or earth or our own

birth,,in that way we can see the past,,and if we have

the source, we can see the future too....

 

may be this is travlling between time-space??

 

this is just my opinion, i dont know the facts behind

it...just trying to meet someone who did it

actually...

 

regards

satyendra k gupta

 

 

 

 

--- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

wrote:

>

>

> Once I asked a similar question to a great saint.

> His answer was yes but I wasn't convinced because I

> couldn't understand how is it possible?

>

> Well one can certainly see the past and future,

> there is no doubt about it.

>

> Mentally one can get immersed in the past or future,

> which will be as good as Virtual Reality.

>

> Going in a past physical world seems like lot more

> difficult.

> A new solid world will have to be created (Assuming

> there is 1 universe which exists at 1 point in

> time). If we look along time there is a universe corresponding to each

> time.

>

> If we want to a certain place and at a certain time coordinate then we

> will transform only those local time-space coordinates. Its better

> then taking entire universe back to that time. Now if we mess

> around in that space time pocket you change the

> space time data in that local space-time region and

> when we come back it will be a changed world. Its

> because although a local region of space & time was

> transformed but there was interaction between

> that local space time region and the rest of the

> world.

>

> Forward and reverse transformations didn't result in

> the same world because we changed the data in

> between. Well something like Jpeg image, you

> compress your image in to a jpeg image and and when

> you uncompress your jpeg image you will find its

> little different from your original image.

>

> So it might be possible but requires a lot to do and

> a lot of caution.

>

> Thanks for asking the question I finally understand

> the logic which all the science fiction movies

> apply.

>

>

> Jai Gurudev!

> Anurag

>

>

>

>

> satyendra k gupta

> [rsmultimediauk]

> Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM

>

> will i get here answer of my

> ques ever?

>

>

>

>

> i asked how can we travel to an other

> time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to go

> in another time-space?

>

> is it possible actually?

>

> regards

>

>

>

>

>

>

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thank you anuragji,

 

some people are able to tell the future of others,,,am

i right?

 

they can also tell the past of the person....

this is done through so many sidhis including some

described by gurudevji,,,am i right?

 

now, when someone is telling the past and future, it

means that he is into it, he is watching past/future

by enterning into that......

 

when mind can travel in time, why not body???

 

secondly, some scientific organizations in america has

already done work onto it,,,,,one has already crossed

the time-space limit,,,it was a very secret project in

USA, and one japanese scientist of 90 years old , who

was a member of that project is in prision due to he

revealed two lines of the project,,,,,,,"we visited

the future and what we saw

was too horrible,,and we switched off our equipments

and came back to present".

 

all scientific experiments are already done through

vedic science thousands years back..like air planes,

atom bomb etc.....

 

when everything is already proved there,,why not this

fiction of time travelling is true?

 

regards

satyendra

lucknow

9839225244

 

 

 

--- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

wrote:

 

>

>

> Hi Satyendra,

>

> you are right. I can understand it at a level of

> thougths.

> And at level of thoughts its more easier, because

> you are just transforming

> Space time data as compared to physical objects.

>

> But converting that in to physical is something

> which is little hard to grasp.

> Notion of time is relative just like space.

>

> Remember the series of questions by Gargi. Earth is

> contained within solar system.

> Solar system within Milky way. Milky way within

> universe and Universe within .....

>

> Same goes with the time. Space and time co-exist. If

> no space then no time.

>

> I guess nothing is as mysterious and hard to

> understand as so called

> "Universe" and "soul"

>

>

>

> satyendra k gupta

> [rsmultimediauk]

> Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43 PM

> ; Goel Anurag-A20572

> RE: will i get here answer of my

> ques ever?

>

>

>

>

> dear anurag,

>

> thank you for your reply with interesting

> information.

>

> for some , threre is no "time" as such...accepted by

> some of the british scientists too. so a clue to get

> rid of this space-time equations.

>

> if we talk in terms of vedas, all this universe is a

> dream of god actually, (god=?, according to vedas,

> the

> light actually, light with special smell, color and

> taste).

>

> every thing here in this world, are just the

> pictures

> being broadcasted (in 4 dimensions) with the help of

> that unseen powerful light (unseen by us, many

> sadhaks

> have seen it), its like a movie beaing broadcasted

> on

> screen with 2 dimensions with the help of a

> projector.

> now, if we some how get the position of the source

> of

> that light(poswer), we can replay things,,even from

> the start of the movie (real world movie),,,,may be

> the origion of this milkyway or earth or our own

> birth,,in that way we can see the past,,and if we

> have

> the source, we can see the future too....

>

> may be this is travlling between time-space??

>

> this is just my opinion, i dont know the facts

> behind

> it...just trying to meet someone who did it

> actually...

>

> regards

> satyendra k gupta

>

>

>

>

> --- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Once I asked a similar question to a great saint.

> > His answer was yes but I wasn't convinced because

> I

> > couldn't understand how is it possible?

> >

> > Well one can certainly see the past and future,

> > there is no doubt about it.

> >

> > Mentally one can get immersed in the past or

> future,

> > which will be as good as Virtual Reality.

> >

> > Going in a past physical world seems like lot more

> > difficult.

> > A new solid world will have to be created

> (Assuming

> > there is 1 universe which exists at 1 point in

> > time). If we look along time there is a universe

> corresponding to each

> > time.

> >

> > If we want to a certain place and at a certain

> time coordinate then we

> > will transform only those local time-space

> coordinates. Its better

> > then taking entire universe back to that time. Now

> if we mess

> > around in that space time pocket you change the

> > space time data in that local space-time region

> and

> > when we come back it will be a changed world. Its

> > because although a local region of space & time

> was

> > transformed but there was interaction between

> > that local space time region and the rest of the

> > world.

> >

> > Forward and reverse transformations didn't result

> in

> > the same world because we changed the data in

> > between. Well something like Jpeg image, you

> > compress your image in to a jpeg image and and

> when

> > you uncompress your jpeg image you will find its

> > little different from your original image.

> >

> > So it might be possible but requires a lot to do

> and

> > a lot of caution.

> >

> > Thanks for asking the question I finally

> understand

> > the logic which all the science fiction movies

> > apply.

> >

> >

> > Jai Gurudev!

> > Anurag

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > satyendra k gupta

> > [rsmultimediauk]

> > Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM

> >

> > will i get here answer of my

> > ques ever?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > i asked how can we travel to an other

> > time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it possible to

> go

> > in another time-space?

> >

> > is it possible actually?

> >

> > regards

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced

> search.

> > Learn more. http://info.mail./mail_250

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Jay Gurudev

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> >

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could u plz provide some proof for what u have claimed like some sites providing

these information.satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk > wrote:

thank you anuragji,some people are able to tell the future of others,,,ami

right?they can also tell the past of the person....this is done through so many

sidhis including somedescribed by gurudevji,,,am i right?now, when someone is

telling the past and future, itmeans that he is into it, he is watching

past/futureby enterning into that......when mind can travel in time, why not

body???secondly, some scientific organizations in america hasalready done work

onto it,,,,,one has already crossedthe time-space limit,,,it was a very secret

project inUSA, and one japanese scientist of 90 years old , whowas a member of

that project is in prision due to herevealed two lines of the project,,,,,,,"we

visitedthe future and what we sawwas too horrible,,and we switched off our

equipmentsand came back

to present".all scientific experiments are already done throughvedic science

thousands years back..like air planes,atom bomb etc.....when everything is

already proved there,,why not thisfiction of time travelling is

true?regardssatyendralucknow9839225244--- Goel Anurag-A20572

<anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com>wrote:> > > Hi Satyendra,> > you are right. I can

understand it at a level of> thougths.> And at level of thoughts its more

easier, because> you are just transforming > Space time data as compared to

physical objects.> > But converting that in to physical is something> which is

little hard to grasp.> Notion of time is relative just like space.> > Remember

the series of questions by Gargi. Earth is> contained within solar system.>

Solar system within Milky way. Milky way within>

universe and Universe within .....> > Same goes with the time. Space and time

co-exist. If> no space then no time.> > I guess nothing is as mysterious and

hard to> understand as so called > "Universe" and "soul"> > > -----Original

Message-----> satyendra k gupta> [rsmultimediauk ] >

Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43 PM> ; Goel

Anurag-A20572> RE: will i get here answer of my> ques

ever?> > > > > dear anurag,> > thank you for your reply with interesting>

information.> > for some , threre is no "time" as such...accepted by> some of

the british scientists too. so a clue to get> rid of this space-time

equations.> > if we talk in terms of vedas, all this universe is a> dream of

god actually, (god=?,

according to vedas,> the> light actually, light with special smell, color and>

taste).> > every thing here in this world, are just the> pictures> being

broadcasted (in 4 dimensions) with the help of> that unseen powerful light

(unseen by us, many> sadhaks> have seen it), its like a movie beaing

broadcasted> on> screen with 2 dimensions with the help of a> projector.> now,

if we some how get the position of the source> of> that light(poswer), we can

replay things,,even from> the start of the movie (real world movie),,,,may be>

the origion of this milkyway or earth or our own> birth,,in that way we can see

the past,,and if we> have> the source, we can see the future too....> > may be

this is travlling between time-space??> > this is just my opinion, i dont know

the facts> behind> it...just trying to

meet someone who did it> actually...> > regards> satyendra k gupta> > > > > ---

Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com>> wrote:> > > > > > Once I asked a

similar question to a great saint.> > His answer was yes but I wasn't convinced

because> I> > couldn't understand how is it possible?> > > > Well one can

certainly see the past and future,> > there is no doubt about it.> > > >

Mentally one can get immersed in the past or> future,> > which will be as good

as Virtual Reality.> > > > Going in a past physical world seems like lot more>

> difficult.> > A new solid world will have to be created> (Assuming> > there is

1 universe which exists at 1 point in> > time). If we look along time there is a

universe>

corresponding to each > > time.> > > > If we want to a certain place and at a

certain> time coordinate then we > > will transform only those local

time-space> coordinates. Its better > > then taking entire universe back to

that time. Now> if we mess> > around in that space time pocket you change the>

> space time data in that local space-time region> and> > when we come back it

will be a changed world. Its> > because although a local region of space &

time> was> > transformed but there was interaction between > > that local space

time region and the rest of the> > world.> > > > Forward and reverse

transformations didn't result> in> > the same world because we changed the data

in> > between. Well something like Jpeg image, you> > compress your image in to

a jpeg image and

and> when> > you uncompress your jpeg image you will find its> > little

different from your original image.> > > > So it might be possible but requires

a lot to do> and> > a lot of caution.> > > > Thanks for asking the question I

finally> understand> > the logic which all the science fiction movies> >

apply.> > > > > > Jai Gurudev!> > Anurag> > > > > > > > -----Original

Message-----> > satyendra k gupta> > [rsmultimediauk ]> >

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM> > > >

will i get here answer of my> > ques ever?> > > > > > > > >

> i asked how can we travel to an other> > time,,,,,,through which sadhna, is it

possible to> go> > in another time-space?> > > > is it possible actually?> > > >

regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Do

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what kind of proof u r looking for? scientific

evidences? or do u want to meet some extra ordinary

people who hv done higher sidhis in this area?

 

where do u live? can u come to my city/place?

 

regards

satyendra

 

 

 

 

--- pappu kumar <say2sk wrote:

 

> Jay Gurudev,

> could u plz provide some proof for what u have

> claimed like some sites providing these information.

>

> satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk wrote:

>

> thank you anuragji,

>

> some people are able to tell the future of

> others,,,am

> i right?

>

> they can also tell the past of the person....

> this is done through so many sidhis including some

> described by gurudevji,,,am i right?

>

> now, when someone is telling the past and future, it

> means that he is into it, he is watching past/future

> by enterning into that......

>

> when mind can travel in time, why not body???

>

> secondly, some scientific organizations in america

> has

> already done work onto it,,,,,one has already

> crossed

> the time-space limit,,,it was a very secret project

> in

> USA, and one japanese scientist of 90 years old ,

> who

> was a member of that project is in prision due to he

> revealed two lines of the project,,,,,,,"we visited

> the future and what we saw

> was too horrible,,and we switched off our equipments

> and came back to present".

>

> all scientific experiments are already done through

> vedic science thousands years back..like air planes,

> atom bomb etc.....

>

> when everything is already proved there,,why not

> this

> fiction of time travelling is true?

>

> regards

> satyendra

> lucknow

> 9839225244

>

>

>

> --- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Satyendra,

> >

> > you are right. I can understand it at a level of

> > thougths.

> > And at level of thoughts its more easier, because

> > you are just transforming

> > Space time data as compared to physical objects.

> >

> > But converting that in to physical is something

> > which is little hard to grasp.

> > Notion of time is relative just like space.

> >

> > Remember the series of questions by Gargi. Earth

> is

> > contained within solar system.

> > Solar system within Milky way. Milky way within

> > universe and Universe within .....

> >

> > Same goes with the time. Space and time co-exist.

> If

> > no space then no time.

> >

> > I guess nothing is as mysterious and hard to

> > understand as so called

> > "Universe" and "soul"

> >

> >

> >

> > satyendra k gupta

> > [rsmultimediauk]

> > Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43 PM

> > ; Goel Anurag-A20572

> > RE: will i get here answer of

> my

> > ques ever?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > dear anurag,

> >

> > thank you for your reply with interesting

> > information.

> >

> > for some , threre is no "time" as such...accepted

> by

> > some of the british scientists too. so a clue to

> get

> > rid of this space-time equations.

> >

> > if we talk in terms of vedas, all this universe is

> a

> > dream of god actually, (god=?, according to vedas,

> > the

> > light actually, light with special smell, color

> and

> > taste).

> >

> > every thing here in this world, are just the

> > pictures

> > being broadcasted (in 4 dimensions) with the help

> of

> > that unseen powerful light (unseen by us, many

> > sadhaks

> > have seen it), its like a movie beaing broadcasted

> > on

> > screen with 2 dimensions with the help of a

> > projector.

> > now, if we some how get the position of the source

> > of

> > that light(poswer), we can replay things,,even

> from

> > the start of the movie (real world movie),,,,may

> be

> > the origion of this milkyway or earth or our own

> > birth,,in that way we can see the past,,and if we

> > have

> > the source, we can see the future too....

> >

> > may be this is travlling between time-space??

> >

> > this is just my opinion, i dont know the facts

> > behind

> > it...just trying to meet someone who did it

> > actually...

> >

> > regards

> > satyendra k gupta

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Once I asked a similar question to a great

> saint.

> > > His answer was yes but I wasn't convinced

> because

> > I

> > > couldn't understand how is it possible?

> > >

> > > Well one can certainly see the past and future,

> > > there is no doubt about it.

> > >

> > > Mentally one can get immersed in the past or

> > future,

> > > which will be as good as Virtual Reality.

> > >

> > > Going in a past physical world seems like lot

> more

> > > difficult.

> > > A new solid world will have to be created

> > (Assuming

> > > there is 1 universe which exists at 1 point in

> > > time). If we look along time there is a universe

> > corresponding to each

> > > time.

> > >

> > > If we want to a certain place and at a certain

> > time coordinate then we

> > > will transform only those local time-space

> > coordinates. Its better

> > > then taking entire universe back to that time.

> Now

> > if we mess

> > > around in that space time pocket you change the

> > > space time data in that local space-time region

> > and

> > > when we come back it will be a changed world.

> Its

> > > because although a local region of space & time

> > was

> > > transformed but there was interaction between

> > > that local space time region and the rest of the

> > > world.

> > >

> > > Forward and reverse transformations didn't

> result

> > in

> > > the same world because we changed the data in

> > > between. Well something like Jpeg image, you

> > > compress your image in to a jpeg image and and

> > when

>

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But have you ever noticed that the ego needs this concept of time to survive, to

give it continuity. If there was no time, there can't be an ego....Only the

present exists...

I am not condemning or praising sadhna, but even your attempts at doing some

sadhana or achieving something spiritual are but an extension of this: the

feeling that 'I' will become spiritually accomplished someday or 'I' will

attain enlightenment, or 'I' will gain control over my anger someday... The

tomorrow is only in your mind... If you can't do it RIGHT NOW, you can never do

it....

You may achieve space-time travel (god forbid that you travel to the wrong age)

or achieve levitation or any such magic. You are bored of your other forms of

entertainment and now you want higher things and call it religion or

spirituality...

 

My opinion is that one should be honest and know what he or she wants. Do you

want money, fame, riches, spiritual powers, peace of mind? Fine, go and do

everything to get them. But, the mind extends the same line of thinking to

enlightenment? We want enlightenment the same way as we desire a good wife,

car, salary... If enlightenment is what they (the sages) say, how could any

desire, good or bad, bring you to the truth? It would mean the end of "you" as

you know yourself. All your hopes, desires, your happiness and unhappiness...

 

Your basic desire for enlightenment is taking you away from what YOU are.....

Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi Satyendra,you are right. I can understand it at a level of thougths.And at

level of thoughts its more easier, because you are just transforming Space time

data as compared to physical objects.But converting that in to physical is

something which is little hard to grasp.Notion of time is relative just like

space.Remember the series of questions by Gargi. Earth is contained within

solar system.Solar system within Milky way. Milky way within universe and

Universe within .....Same goes with the time. Space and time co-exist. If no

space then no time.I guess nothing is as mysterious and hard to understand as

so called "Universe" and "soul"satyendra k

gupta [rsmultimediauk ] Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43

PM;

Goel Anurag-A20572RE: will i get here answer of my ques

ever?dear anurag,thank you for your reply with interesting information.for some

, threre is no "time" as such...accepted bysome of the british scientists too.

so a clue to getrid of this space-time equations.if we talk in terms of vedas,

all this universe is adream of god actually, (god=?, according to vedas,

thelight actually, light with special smell, color andtaste).every thing here

in this world, are just the picturesbeing broadcasted (in 4 dimensions) with

the help ofthat unseen powerful light (unseen by us, many sadhakshave seen it),

its like a movie beaing broadcasted onscreen with 2 dimensions with the help of

a projector.now, if we some how get the position of the source ofthat

light(poswer), we can replay things,,even fromthe start of the movie (real

world movie),,,,may bethe origion of this

milkyway or earth or our ownbirth,,in that way we can see the past,,and if we

havethe source, we can see the future too....may be this is travlling between

time-space??this is just my opinion, i dont know the facts behindit...just

trying to meet someone who did itactually...regardssatyendra k gupta--- Goel

Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com>wrote:> > > Once I asked a similar

question to a great saint.> His answer was yes but I wasn't convinced because

I> couldn't understand how is it possible?> > Well one can certainly see the

past and future,> there is no doubt about it.> > Mentally one can get immersed

in the past or future,> which will be as good as Virtual Reality.> > Going in

a past physical world seems like lot more> difficult.> A new solid world will

have to be created (Assuming>

there is 1 universe which exists at 1 point in> time). If we look along time

there is a universe corresponding to each > time.> > If we want to a certain

place and at a certain time coordinate then we > will transform only those

local time-space coordinates. Its better > then taking entire universe back to

that time. Now if we mess> around in that space time pocket you change the>

space time data in that local space-time region and> when we come back it will

be a changed world. Its> because although a local region of space & time was>

transformed but there was interaction between > that local space time region

and the rest of the> world.> > Forward and reverse transformations didn't

result in> the same world because we changed the data in> between. Well

something like Jpeg image, you> compress your image in to a jpeg image and and

when> you

uncompress your jpeg image you will find its> little different from your

original image.> > So it might be possible but requires a lot to do and> a lot

of caution.> > Thanks for asking the question I finally understand> the logic

which all the science fiction movies> apply.> > > Jai Gurudev!> Anurag> > > >

> satyendra k gupta>

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there are few things which are always kept secret from

others including parents and spouse while folowing a

process to complete desired sidhi.....

 

what i am looking for just a part of that.....if

anyone can explain this time travelling query of mine,

would be great..

 

i simply want the explanation not the various opinions

of experts, which are not going to help me.

 

regards

satyendra

 

--- arvind <tantrix_99 wrote:

 

> Space-time (both are one according to physicists) is

> an illusion. To understand this intellectually

> (actual understanding would be enlightenment), think

> about it this way. What is time to you? The past and

> the future exist only in your mind, as memories.

> While doing office work or any mundane tasks, one

> needs a concept of time to survive. For example, I

> will do this work tomorrow, or she did some work

> today.

>

> But have you ever noticed that the ego needs this

> concept of time to survive, to give it continuity.

> If there was no time, there can't be an ego....Only

> the present exists...

> I am not condemning or praising sadhna, but even

> your attempts at doing some sadhana or achieving

> something spiritual are but an extension of this:

> the feeling that 'I' will become spiritually

> accomplished someday or 'I' will attain

> enlightenment, or 'I' will gain control over my

> anger someday... The tomorrow is only in your

> mind... If you can't do it RIGHT NOW, you can never

> do it....

>

> You may achieve space-time travel (god forbid that

> you travel to the wrong age) or achieve levitation

> or any such magic. You are bored of your other forms

> of entertainment and now you want higher things and

> call it religion or spirituality...

>

> My opinion is that one should be honest and know

> what he or she wants. Do you want money, fame,

> riches, spiritual powers, peace of mind? Fine, go

> and do everything to get them. But, the mind extends

> the same line of thinking to enlightenment? We want

> enlightenment the same way as we desire a good wife,

> car, salary... If enlightenment is what they (the

> sages) say, how could any desire, good or bad, bring

> you to the truth? It would mean the end of "you" as

> you know yourself. All your hopes, desires, your

> happiness and unhappiness...

>

> Your basic desire for enlightenment is taking you

> away from what YOU are.....

>

> Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel wrote:

>

>

> Hi Satyendra,

>

> you are right. I can understand it at a level of

> thougths.

> And at level of thoughts its more easier, because

> you are just transforming

> Space time data as compared to physical objects.

>

> But converting that in to physical is something

> which is little hard to grasp.

> Notion of time is relative just like space.

>

> Remember the series of questions by Gargi. Earth is

> contained within solar system.

> Solar system within Milky way. Milky way within

> universe and Universe within .....

>

> Same goes with the time. Space and time co-exist. If

> no space then no time.

>

> I guess nothing is as mysterious and hard to

> understand as so called

> "Universe" and "soul"

>

>

>

> satyendra k gupta

> [rsmultimediauk]

> Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43 PM

> ; Goel Anurag-A20572

> RE: will i get here answer of my

> ques ever?

>

>

>

>

> dear anurag,

>

> thank you for your reply with interesting

> information.

>

> for some , threre is no "time" as such...accepted by

> some of the british scientists too. so a clue to get

> rid of this space-time equations.

>

> if we talk in terms of vedas, all this universe is a

> dream of god actually, (god=?, according to vedas,

> the

> light actually, light with special smell, color and

> taste).

>

> every thing here in this world, are just the

> pictures

> being broadcasted (in 4 dimensions) with the help of

> that unseen powerful light (unseen by us, many

> sadhaks

> have seen it), its like a movie beaing broadcasted

> on

> screen with 2 dimensions with the help of a

> projector.

> now, if we some how get the position of the source

> of

> that light(poswer), we can replay things,,even from

> the start of the movie (real world movie),,,,may be

> the origion of this milkyway or earth or our own

> birth,,in that way we can see the past,,and if we

> have

> the source, we can see the future too....

>

> may be this is travlling between time-space??

>

> this is just my opinion, i dont know the facts

> behind

> it...just trying to meet someone who did it

> actually...

>

> regards

> satyendra k gupta

>

>

>

>

> --- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Once I asked a similar question to a great saint.

> > His answer was yes but I wasn't convinced because

> I

> > couldn't understand how is it possible?

> >

> > Well one can certainly see the past and future,

> > there is no doubt about it.

> >

> > Mentally one can get immersed in the past or

> future,

> > which will be as good as Virtual Reality.

> >

> > Going in a past physical world seems like lot more

> > difficult.

> > A new solid world will have to be created

> (Assuming

> > there is 1 universe which exists at 1 point in

> > time). If we look along time there is a universe

> corresponding to each

> > time.

> >

> > If we want to a certain place and at a certain

> time coordinate then we

> > will transform only those local time-space

> coordinates. Its better

> > then taking entire universe back to that time. Now

> if we mess

> > around in that space time pocket you change the

> > space time data in that local space-time region

> and

> > when we come back it will be a changed world. Its

> > because although a local region of space & time

> was

> > transformed but there was interaction between

> > that local space time region and the rest of the

> > world.

> >

> > Forward and reverse transformations didn't result

> in

> > the same world because we changed the data in

> > between. Well something like Jpeg image, you

> > compress your image in to a jpeg image and and

> when

> > you uncompress your jpeg image you will find its

> > little different from your original image.

> >

> > So it might be possible but requires a lot to do

> and

> > a lot of caution.

> >

> > Thanks for asking the question I finally

> understand

> > the logic which all the science fiction movies

> > apply.

> >

> >

> > Jai Gurudev!

> > Anurag

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > satyendra k gupta

> > [rsmultimediauk]

> > Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:21 PM

> >

> > will i get here answer of my

>

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Even apart from this Science as well as our Ancient puranas have discussed on

Parallel universes. What do you say travel to those other Universes. Hope Im

not triggering another Big Discussion :-)

 

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On Mar 31, 2005 1:04 AM, satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk > wrote:

what kind of proof u r looking for? scientificevidences? or do u want to meet

some extra ordinarypeople who hv done higher sidhis in this area?where do u

live? can u come to my city/place?regardssatyendra --- pappu kumar

<say2sk (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Jay Gurudev,> could u plz provide some proof for

what u have> claimed like some sites providing these information.> > satyendra

k gupta <rsmultimediauk > wrote:> > thank you anuragji,> > some people

are able to tell the future of> others,,,am> i right?> > they can also tell the

past of the person....> this is done through so many sidhis including some>

described by gurudevji,,,am i right?> > now, when someone is telling the past

and future, it> means that he is into it, he is watching past/future> by

enterning into that......> > when mind can travel in time, why not body???> >

secondly, some scientific organizations in america> has> already done work onto

it,,,,,one has already> crossed> the time-space limit,,,it was a very secret

project> in> USA, and one japanese scientist of 90 years old ,> who> was a

member of that project is in prision due to he> revealed two lines of the

project,,,,,,,"we visited> the future and what we saw> was too horrible,,and we

switched off our equipments> and came back to present".> > all scientific

experiments are already done through> vedic science thousands years back..like

air planes,> atom bomb etc.....> > when everything is already proved there,,why

not> this> fiction of time travelling is true?> > regards> satyendra> lucknow>

9839225244> > > > --- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com>> wrote:> > >

> > > > Hi Satyendra,> > > > you are right. I can understand it at a level of>

> thougths.> > And at level of thoughts its more easier, because> > you are

just transforming > > Space time data as compared to physical objects.> > > >

But converting that in to physical is something> > which is little hard to

grasp.> > Notion of time is relative just like space.> > > > Remember the

series of questions by Gargi. Earth> is> > contained within solar system.> >

Solar system within Milky way. Milky way within> > universe and Universe within

......> > > > Same goes with the time. Space and time co-exist.> If> > no space

then no time.> > > > I guess nothing is as mysterious and hard to> > understand

as so called > > "Universe" and "soul"> > > > > > > >

satyendra k gupta> > [rsmultimediauk ] > > Sent:

Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43 PM> > ; Goel

Anurag-A20572> > RE: will i get here answer of> my> > ques

ever?> > > > > > > > > > dear anurag,> > > > thank you for your reply with

interesting> > information.> > > > for some , threre is no "time" as

such...accepted> by> > some of the british scientists too. so a clue to> get> >

rid of this space-time equations.> > > > if we talk in terms of vedas, all this

universe is> a> > dream of god actually, (god=?, according to vedas,> > the> >

light actually, light with special smell, color> and> > taste).> > > > every

thing here in this world, are just the> > pictures> > being broadcasted (in 4

dimensions) with the help> of> > that unseen powerful light (unseen by us,

many> > sadhaks> > have seen it), its like a movie beaing broadcasted> > on> >

screen with 2 dimensions with the help of a> > projector.> > now, if we some

how get the position of the source> > of> > that light(poswer), we can replay

things,,even> from> > the start of the movie (real world movie),,,,may> be> >

the origion of this milkyway or earth or our own> > birth,,in that way we can

see the past,,and if we> > have> > the source, we can see the future too....> >

> > may be this is travlling between time-space??> > > > this is just my

opinion, i dont know the facts> > behind> > it...just trying to meet someone

who did it> > actually...> > > > regards> > satyendra k gupta> > > > > > > > >

> --- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >

Once I asked a similar question to a great> saint.> > > His answer was yes but

I wasn't convinced> because> > I> > > couldn't understand how is it possible?>

> > > > > Well one can certainly see the past and future,> > > there is no

doubt about it.> > > > > > Mentally one can get immersed in the past or> >

future,> > > which will be as good as Virtual Reality.> > > > > > Going in a

past physical world seems like lot> more> > > difficult.> > > A new solid world

will have to be created> > (Assuming> > > there is 1 universe which exists at 1

point in> > > time). If we look along time there is a universe> > corresponding

to each > > > time.> > > > > > If we want to a certain place and at a certain> >

time coordinate then we > > > will transform only those local time-space> >

coordinates. Its better > > > then taking entire universe back to that time.>

Now> > if we mess> > > around in that space time pocket you change the> > >

space time data in that local space-time region> > and> > > when we come back

it will be a changed world.> Its> > > because although a local region of space

& time> > was> > > transformed but there was interaction between > > > that

local space time region and the rest of the> > > world.> > > > > > Forward and

reverse transformations didn't> result> > in> > > the same world because we

changed the data in> > > between. Well something like Jpeg image, you> > >

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thank you for the information.

actually this discussion may be too long to have any

kind of proper solution. what i m simply looking for

sadhna to cross the time limits, not the locations,

which i already know.

 

regards

 

--- Saravana Kumar <ksaravanakumar wrote:

 

> We actually have the same kind of Question discussed

> in various Puranas. In

> Bhagavad Gita Krishna, The mighty Lord shows Arjuna

> a Glimpse of this

> universe beyond Space and Time, A view of this

> Universe, where Arjuna could

> see everything The past, present and the future. The

> same goes with

> Markandeya, where he was able to view this Objective

> Universe as an Work of

> Maya in the form of a Baby. This is the highest

> achievement of a human

> being.

> Even apart from this Science as well as our Ancient

> puranas have discussed

> on Parallel universes. What do you say travel to

> those other Universes. Hope

> Im not triggering another Big Discussion :-)

> Thanks

> Saravana Kumar K

>

> On Mar 31, 2005 1:04 AM, satyendra k gupta

> <rsmultimediauk

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > what kind of proof u r looking for? scientific

> > evidences? or do u want to meet some extra

> ordinary

> > people who hv done higher sidhis in this area?

> >

> > where do u live? can u come to my city/place?

> >

> > regards

> > satyendra

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- pappu kumar <say2sk wrote:

> >

> > > Jay Gurudev,

> > > could u plz provide some proof for what u have

> > > claimed like some sites providing these

> information.

> > >

> > > satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk

> wrote:

> > >

> > > thank you anuragji,

> > >

> > > some people are able to tell the future of

> > > others,,,am

> > > i right?

> > >

> > > they can also tell the past of the person....

> > > this is done through so many sidhis including

> some

> > > described by gurudevji,,,am i right?

> > >

> > > now, when someone is telling the past and

> future, it

> > > means that he is into it, he is watching

> past/future

> > > by enterning into that......

> > >

> > > when mind can travel in time, why not body???

> > >

> > > secondly, some scientific organizations in

> america

> > > has

> > > already done work onto it,,,,,one has already

> > > crossed

> > > the time-space limit,,,it was a very secret

> project

> > > in

> > > USA, and one japanese scientist of 90 years old

> ,

> > > who

> > > was a member of that project is in prision due

> to he

> > > revealed two lines of the project,,,,,,,"we

> visited

> > > the future and what we saw

> > > was too horrible,,and we switched off our

> equipments

> > > and came back to present".

> > >

> > > all scientific experiments are already done

> through

> > > vedic science thousands years back..like air

> planes,

> > > atom bomb etc.....

> > >

> > > when everything is already proved there,,why not

> > > this

> > > fiction of time travelling is true?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > satyendra

> > > lucknow

> > > 9839225244

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Satyendra,

> > > >

> > > > you are right. I can understand it at a level

> of

> > > > thougths.

> > > > And at level of thoughts its more easier,

> because

> > > > you are just transforming

> > > > Space time data as compared to physical

> objects.

> > > >

> > > > But converting that in to physical is

> something

> > > > which is little hard to grasp.

> > > > Notion of time is relative just like space.

> > > >

> > > > Remember the series of questions by Gargi.

> Earth

> > > is

> > > > contained within solar system.

> > > > Solar system within Milky way. Milky way

> within

> > > > universe and Universe within .....

> > > >

> > > > Same goes with the time. Space and time

> co-exist.

> > > If

> > > > no space then no time.

> > > >

> > > > I guess nothing is as mysterious and hard to

> > > > understand as so called

> > > > "Universe" and "soul"

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > satyendra k gupta

> > > > [rsmultimediauk]

> > > > Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43 PM

> > > > ; Goel

> Anurag-A20572

> > > > RE: will i get here answer

> of

> > > my

> > > > ques ever?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear anurag,

> > > >

> > > > thank you for your reply with interesting

> > > > information.

> > > >

> > > > for some , threre is no "time" as

> such...accepted

> > > by

> > > > some of the british scientists too. so a clue

> to

> > > get

> > > > rid of this space-time equations.

> > > >

> > > > if we talk in terms of vedas, all this

> universe is

> > > a

> > > > dream of god actually, (god=?, according to

> vedas,

> > > > the

> > > > light actually, light with special smell,

> color

> > > and

> > > > taste).

> > > >

> > > > every thing here in this world, are just the

> > > > pictures

> > > > being broadcasted (in 4 dimensions) with the

> help

> > > of

> > > > that unseen powerful light (unseen by us, many

> > > > sadhaks

> > > > have seen it), its like a movie beaing

> broadcasted

> > > > on

> > > > screen with 2 dimensions with the help of a

> > > > projector.

> > > > now, if we some how get the position of the

> source

> > > > of

> > > > that light(poswer), we can replay things,,even

> > > from

> > > > the start of the movie (real world

> movie),,,,may

>

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Dear Gurubhai Satyendra jee. I have felt that U

just got angry when I

asked u to give some proof. But plz dont get angry. I just thought that

U have got those thoughts from some sites. Plz dont get angry.

I am from Bangalore. I am doing Engineering (Just wanted to see if science can interpret it.)

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Re: will i get here answer of my ques ever?

We actually have the same kind of Question discussed in various Puranas. In

Bhagavad Gita Krishna, The mighty Lord shows Arjuna a Glimpse of this universe

beyond Space and Time, A view of this Universe, where Arjuna could see

everything The past, present and the future. The same goes with Markandeya,

where he was able to view this Objective Universe as an Work of Maya in the

form of a Baby. This is the highest achievement of a human being.

 

Even apart from this Science as well as our Ancient puranas have discussed on

Parallel universes. What do you say travel to those other Universes. Hope Im

not triggering another Big Discussion :-)

 

Thanks

Saravana Kumar K

On Mar 31, 2005 1:04 AM, satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk > wrote:

what kind of proof u r looking for? scientificevidences? or do u want to meet

some extra ordinarypeople who hv done higher sidhis in this area?where do u

live? can u come to my city/place?regardssatyendra --- pappu kumar

<say2sk (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Jay Gurudev,> could u plz provide some proof for

what u have> claimed like some sites providing these information.> > satyendra

k gupta <rsmultimediauk > wrote:> > thank you anuragji,> > some people

are able to tell the future of> others,,,am> i right?> > they can also tell the

past of the person....> this is done through so many sidhis including some>

described by gurudevji,,,am i right?> > now, when someone is telling the past

and future, it> means that he is into it, he is watching past/future> by

enterning into that......> > when mind can travel in time, why not body???> >

secondly, some scientific organizations in america> has> already done work onto

it,,,,,one has already> crossed> the time-space limit,,,it was a very secret

project> in> USA, and one japanese scientist of 90 years old ,> who> was a

member of that project is in prision due to he> revealed two lines of the

project,,,,,,,"we visited> the future and what we saw> was too horrible,,and we

switched off our equipments> and came back to present".> > all scientific

experiments are already done through> vedic science thousands years back..like

air planes,> atom bomb etc.....> > when everything is already proved there,,why

not> this> fiction of time travelling is true?> > regards> satyendra> lucknow>

9839225244> > > > --- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com>> wrote:> > >

> > > > Hi Satyendra,> > > > you are right. I can understand it at a level of>

> thougths.> > And at level of thoughts its more easier, because> > you are

just transforming > > Space time data as compared to physical objects.> > > >

But converting that in to physical is something> > which is little hard to

grasp.> > Notion of time is relative just like space.> > > > Remember the

series of questions by Gargi. Earth> is> > contained within solar system.> >

Solar system within Milky way. Milky way within> > universe and Universe within

......> > > > Same goes with the time. Space and time co-exist.> If> > no space

then no time.> > > > I guess nothing is as mysterious and hard to> > understand

as so called > > "Universe" and "soul"> > > > > > > >

satyendra k gupta> > [rsmultimediauk ] > > Sent:

Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43 PM> > ; Goel

Anurag-A20572> > RE: will i get here answer of> my> > ques

ever?> > > > > > > > > > dear anurag,> > > > thank you for your reply with

interesting> > information.> > > > for some , threre is no "time" as

such...accepted> by> > some of the british scientists too. so a clue to> get> >

rid of this space-time equations.> > > > if we talk in terms of vedas, all this

universe is> a> > dream of god actually, (god=?, according to vedas,> > the> >

light actually, light with special smell, color> and> > taste).> > > > every

thing here in this world, are just the> > pictures> > being broadcasted (in 4

dimensions) with the help> of> > that unseen powerful light (unseen by us,

many> > sadhaks> > have seen it), its like a movie beaing broadcasted> > on> >

screen with 2 dimensions with the help of a> > projector.> > now, if we some

how get the position of the source> > of> > that light(poswer), we can replay

things,,even> from> > the start of the movie (real world movie),,,,may> be> >

the origion of this milkyway or earth or our own> > birth,,in that way we can

see the past,,and if we> > have> > the source, we can see the future too....> >

> > may be this is travlling between time-space??> > > > this is just my

opinion, i dont know the facts> > behind> > it...just trying to meet someone

who did it> > actually...> > > > regards> > satyendra k gupta> > > > > > > > >

> --- Goel Anurag-A20572 <anuraggoel (AT) motorola (DOT) com>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >

Once I asked a similar question to a great> saint.> > > His answer was yes but

I wasn't convinced> because> > I> > > couldn't understand how is it possible?>

> > > > > Well one can certainly see the past and future,> > > there is no

doubt about it.> > > > > > Mentally one can get immersed in the past or> >

future,> > > which will be as good as Virtual Reality.> > > > > > Going in a

past physical world seems like lot> more> > > difficult.> > > A new solid world

will have to be created> > (Assuming> > > there is 1 universe which exists at 1

point in> > > time). If we look along time there is a universe> > corresponding

to each > > > time.> > > > > > If we want to a certain place and at a certain> >

time coordinate then we > > > will transform only those local time-space> >

coordinates. Its better > > > then taking entire universe back to that time.>

Now> > if we mess> > > around in that space time pocket you change the> > >

space time data in that local space-time region> > and> > > when we come back

it will be a changed world.> Its> > > because although a local region of space

& time> > was> > > transformed but there was interaction between > > > that

local space time region and the rest of the> > > world.> > > > > > Forward and

reverse transformations didn't> result> > in> > > the same world because we

changed the data in> > > between. Well something like Jpeg image, you> > >

compress your image in to a jpeg image and and> > when> === message truncated

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