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because there are many hurdles and also many siddhis in this route. finally u

could reach mansarovar(mystic place inside body) and then guru would take u to

the last step that is aatmasakshatkaar(when u realise yourself and u could be

one with your aatma). this place guru would disappear and you could the aatma .

concentrate: this place u can realise your true personality. In actual u cant

see any aatma but in last stage u can see yourself as parbrahma person

governing whole world. in this place u realise that u are the person who have

created the whole universe, all the activities are hold by u and all the maya

have been created by u to control the universe. this is the eternal vision of

aatma. the whole universe is created by u only and it is placed in your body

only and governed by u only, all this is realised by a person when it gets the

topmost stage of kunalini yatra with the help of guru. BE SURE THAT U

ARE THE AATMA , U ARE ALL PRESENT IN EVERY INCH OF UNIVERSE OR ENTIRE UNIVERSE

IS CREATED BY YOU, YOU ARE THE ONE BY WHICH WHOLE UNIVERSE IS GOVERNED. THIS IS

THE TRUE FORM OF AATMA DARSHAN IN WHICH ONE REALISE ITS TRUE FORM. THE VIRAT

SWAROOP THAT IS SHOWN BY KRISHNA IN MAHABHARAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AS PAR BRAHM

SWAROOP OR AATMA SWAROOP AND THE NATURE OF THIS SWAROOP IS AANAND AND SHANTI.

IF YOU WANT TO BE CLOSE TO AATMA THAT EASIES METHOD AND VERY POWERFUL METHOD

IS TO BE AANAND AND SHANTI. IF SOMEONE HAD STILL DOUBTS PLEASE FREE TO CALL

ME. SUMIT SHARMAshailendra singh <kumarsinghshailendra (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

dear amit juneja, i happen to be a learner. i dont have much experience as you

people seem to have.

though, i wouldnt agree with the explanation of atma as you have given. have you

realized or felt atma yourself ? i am afraid you sentences scream to saying no.

atma and so forth, dear sundar,is a complicated subject.atma is not a subject

of words, to be learnt or explained rather only experience can satiate your

curiosity. and who knew kept quiet because it cannt be explained. what can be

said is not true--it will be distorted. sundar,if its just a seasonal fever,

let it pass away, if its a question of your life and death, dont ask, try to

know and not to learn. remember, knowing is not learning, a dead thing can be

learnt and a living thing can only be known. best regards. shailendra amit

juneja <amitjuneja31 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Mr.Sundar, Jai Gurudev,

Yes, atma exsit in humanbeing,in animals & in plants(Living things).It exist

inside the body at centre of forehead & in between of our eyebrows. But not

in fan,not in wall,not in streets,not in drainge( Non living things). On a

death of a person,only his atma moves from his body & rest of body lyies as per

normal. Only atma of a person moves to heaven or hell. Some atmas are

belonged to bad category(after a ancidental death/after unnatural

death/premature death) & they starts to disturb people near-by. For details

you can visit our website containing details like a article "a house haunted by

a Ghost'' Jai Gurudev !!!!!!!!!!! Regards/Amit juneja Angel Broking Ltd.

Panipat-Haryana Ph:-0180-5016144 Sundar <sundararaman (AT) in (DOT) ness.com> wrote:

Hi I have questions regarding Atma. a. Is Atma in streets and walls? b. Is

Atma in Fan,tubelight etc? c. Is Atma in plants, and trees? d. Atma is in every

humanbeing...Is it in animals? Also I have a

doubt is Atma between two people? I mean if two persons are walking between

them is Atma exist between them by covering their distance? e. If a,b,c,d

is true....is it the same Atma which is in a,b,c,d,,,, f. There are some

drainages...ditches...where muddy water flows...Atma does it exist in

drainages and ditches also? g. Atma is in every humanbeing...is it inside the

body? h. Atma - does it move? does it has some feelings? Once you realize

the Atma, how do you feel? Jai Sri

Ram. Sundar <sundararaman (AT) in (DOT) ness.com> wrote: Hi I have questions

regarding Atma. a. Is Atma in streets and walls? b. Is Atma in Fan,tubelight

etc? c. Is Atma in plants, and trees? d. Atma is in every humanbeing...Is it in

animals? Also I have a doubt is Atma between two people?

I mean if two persons are walking between them is Atma exist between them by

covering their distance? e. If a,b,c,d is true....is it the same Atma which

is in a,b,c,d,,,, f. There are some drainages...ditches...where muddy

water flows...Atma does it exist in drainages and ditches also? g. Atma is

in every humanbeing...is it inside the body? h. Atma - does it move? does it has

some feelings? Once you realize the Atma, how do you feel? Jai Sri Ram.

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are talking about aatma. i would explain only upto which i have known about this

that is every where and no where. first of all when the human being dies it is

said that his soul is liberated but in actual it is his sooksham shareer not

his soul . so aatma is not which is transformed from bodies to bodies instead

it is everywhere in different forms. after attaining oneness with this attma a

person can govern the full universe instead the whole universe is inside in it.

i would explain the way of kundalini yatra which is known by very few people

which would clarify your all doubts of aatma/. First of all the kunalini

rises and then arouses through different chakra and finally it lands on

sahastrahar chakra. after attaining the agya chakra position the person itself

becomes like devtas and after it goes to brahmar gufa(the way from aagya chakra

to sashashtrahar) then in that route only guru can lead you . because there are

many hurdles and

also many siddhis in this route. finally u could reach mansarovar(mystic place

inside body) and then guru would take u to the last step that is

aatmasakshatkaar(when u realise yourself and u could be one with your aatma).

this place guru would disappear and you could the aatma . concentrate: this

place u can realise your true personality. In actual u cant see any aatma but

in last stage u can see yourself as parbrahma person governing whole world. in

this place u realise that u are the person who have created the whole universe,

all the activities are hold by u and all the maya have been created by u to

control the universe. this is the eternal vision of aatma. the whole

universe is created by u only and it is placed in your body only and governed

by u only, all this is realised by a person when it gets the topmost stage of

kunalini yatra with the help of guru. BE SURE THAT U ARE THE AATMA , U ARE

ALL PRESENT IN EVERY INCH OF UNIVERSE OR ENTIRE UNIVERSE IS CREATED BY YOU, YOU

ARE THE ONE BY WHICH WHOLE UNIVERSE IS GOVERNED. THIS IS THE TRUE FORM OF AATMA

DARSHAN IN WHICH ONE REALISE ITS TRUE FORM. THE VIRAT SWAROOP THAT IS SHOWN BY

KRISHNA IN MAHABHARAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AS PAR BRAHM SWAROOP OR AATMA SWAROOP

AND THE NATURE OF THIS SWAROOP IS AANAND AND SHANTI. IF YOU WANT TO BE CLOSE

TO AATMA THAT EASIES METHOD AND VERY POWERFUL METHOD IS TO BE AANAND AND

SHANTI. IF SOMEONE HAD STILL DOUBTS PLEASE FREE TO CALL ME. SUMIT

SHARMAshailendra singh <kumarsinghshailendra (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: dear amit

juneja, i happen to be a learner. i dont have much experience as you people

seem to have. though, i wouldnt agree with the explanation of atma as you have

given. have you realized or felt atma yourself ? i am afraid you sentences

scream to saying no. atma and so forth, dear sundar,is a complicated

subject.atma is not a subject of words, to be learnt or explained rather only

experience can satiate your curiosity. and who knew kept quiet because it cannt

be explained. what can be said is not true--it will be distorted. sundar,if its

just a seasonal fever, let it pass away, if its a question of your life and

death, dont ask, try to know and not to learn. remember, knowing is not

learning, a dead thing can be learnt and a living thing can only be known. best

regards. shailendra amit juneja <amitjuneja31 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear

Mr.Sundar, Jai Gurudev, Yes, atma exsit in humanbeing,in animals & in

plants(Living things).It exist inside the body at centre of forehead & in

between of our eyebrows. But not in fan,not in wall,not in streets,not in

drainge( Non living things). On a death of a person,only his atma moves from

his body & rest of body lyies as per normal. Only atma of a person moves to

heaven or hell. Some atmas are belonged to bad category(after a ancidental

death/after unnatural death/premature death) & they starts to disturb people

near-by. For details you can visit our website containing details like a

article "a house haunted by a Ghost'' Jai Gurudev

!!!!!!!!!!! Regards/Amit juneja Angel Broking Ltd. Panipat-Haryana

Ph:-0180-5016144 Sundar <sundararaman (AT) in (DOT) ness.com> wrote: Hi I have

questions regarding Atma. a. Is Atma in streets and walls? b. Is Atma in

Fan,tubelight etc? c. Is Atma in plants, and trees? d. Atma is in every

humanbeing...Is it in

animals? Also I have a doubt is Atma between two people? I mean if two

persons are walking between them is Atma exist between them by covering

their distance? e. If a,b,c,d is true....is it the same Atma which is in

a,b,c,d,,,, f. There are some drainages...ditches...where muddy water

flows...Atma does it exist in drainages and ditches also? g. Atma is in every

humanbeing...is it inside the body? h. Atma - does it move? does it has some

feelings? Once you realize the Atma, how do you feel? Jai Sri Ram.

Sundar <sundararaman (AT) in (DOT) ness.com> wrote: Hi I have questions regarding

Atma. a. Is Atma in streets and walls? b. Is Atma in Fan,tubelight etc? c. Is

Atma in plants, and trees? d. Atma is in every humanbeing...Is it in animals?

Also I have a doubt is Atma between two people? I mean if two persons are

walking between them is Atma exist between them by covering their distance?

e. If a,b,c,d is true....is it the same Atma which is in a,b,c,d,,,, f.

There are some drainages...ditches...where muddy water flows...Atma does

it exist in drainages and ditches also? g. Atma is in every humanbeing...is it

inside the body? h. Atma - does it move? does it has some feelings? Once

you realize the Atma, how do you feel? Jai Sri Ram. Enjoy this Diwali with

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relvant text "That which is omnipresent doesn't have to be sought. It's there

already. Start to be. That which is omnipresent is not to be sought; only our

awareness has to be brought to that level and that bliss is there. You don't

have to seek it. Understand? Unless we get into that omnipresent bliss,

satisfaction is not going to come. If it were to come, it would have come by

now through so many avenues in the world. But, it has not. Therefore, that

which is the Self is your own being. You don't have to look in the outside.

And, it is irrespective of any religious faiths or beliefs; Christians or

Mormons(I guess it meant Muslims?) or Hindus. That being is the knowledge

itself. Only, you have to know. All these various manifestations of happiness

that we experience in the world, they also are the manifestations of the same

eternal being which is our own Self. If we are aware of the Self, if we

know it, fine. Otherwise, we have to be. And, therefore, it is necessary to

bring our awareness deep within ourselves. As deeply as we can bring our

awareness to the Self, so intensely we can inherit that which is omnipresent

in our day to day life. Having known that Self we will be eternally contented;

remaining in the world we will live contentment. And, it's not a matter of

detaching ourselves from the world. Only, we have to know It, and having known

It, then, all different manifestations in the world will be experienced as

manifestations of That. We don't have to detach ourselves. It is just a matter

of bringing the awareness to that area, and be, and live It. Having gained this

beautiful, perfect human nervous system, if we have known that element of the

Self, then we have really used this wonderful diamond-like gift, this

diamond-like nervous system which is capable of giving that eternal

bliss. If it is not experienced, then we have wasted that gift of diamond. We

have taken upon ourselves this human nervous system, not for the sake of petty

enjoyment of changing nature in this relative field of change, but to live and

be that infinite bliss. And, we will have to attain that thing whether we

attain it in this life, or in the next, or in the next. We just can't forego

that. Therefore, with the assistance of the guru and the scriptures, better to

attain it quickly. Why postpone?" http://www.yogiphotos.com/chap5d.html Jai

Gurudev. Shobhit.

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, in these lok only those person could go who have strong bhakti for their

deity. like radha had gone to krishna lok with his body due to his immense love

for lord krishana. the person may or may not be spiritual powers but if he had

done strong bhakti for their respective deity , he could reach that lok, to

reach that lok is also attaining moksh because if all the upliftments and

completeness he would attain in residing that lok. 10- the last one is called

the parbrahma, or the source from where the whole universe had emitted. this is

the viraat swaroop of the parbrahma or your self with all the universe residing

inside your body. all these loks are residing in the parbrahma body, all the

gods are coming from parbrahma and goes in parbrahma. TO DO THE PARAM DHYAN OR

CALLED THE PARBRAHMA DHYAN THE EXERCISE WHICH IS USED IS THE NIDHIDHYANSAN.

WHICH IS THE LAST STAGE OF ALL SADHNAS. U HAVE TO CLOSE

UR EYES AND SIT COMFORTABLE AND CONSIDERING THAT UR BODY GROWINGIN SIZE AND

EXPANDING LIKE BALLON AND CAPTURING WHOLE UNIVERSE STARTING FROM UR ROOM.

MEDITATE THAT WHOLE UNIVERSE IS YOURS AND U ARE THE ONE ONLY IN ENTIRE

UNIVERSE. CONSIDER THE NAVAL OF UR BODY AS THE SUN AND ENTIRE UNIVERSE IS

REVOLVING AROUND UR NAVAL. CONISDER UR VIRAAT SWAROOP AT THAT MOMENT AND GO

DEEP INTO IT. AFTER IMAGINING UR VIRAAT SWAROOP U HAVE TO CONSIDER THE SWAROOP

OF UR PARBRAHMA. THE SWAROOP IS ANAND AND SHANTI. SO FILL YOURSELF WITH ANAND

AND SHANTI. OR U COULD CHANT THE FOLLOWING MAHAMANTRA OAM ANANDMAY OAM

SHANTIMAY FOR SOME TIME AND TRIES TO DIVE IN THE ETERNAL HAPPINESS OR YOUR

SELF. BE SURE THAT THE ANAND OR HAPPINESS U ARE MEDITATIING IS NOT OF ANY

DEITY OR GOD , THIS IS YOUR TRUE FORM WHERE THE WHOLE UNIVERSE HAD COME INTO

EXISTENCE. THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL MEDITATION WHICH SLOWLY BRING YOU AT THE

NEAREST OF YOUR TRUE

FORM. IF SOME ONE HAS STILL DOUBTS REGARDING ANYTHING , HE IS FREE TO ASK

THANKS YOU WITH REGARDS SUMIT SHARMAShobhit Verma <shobhitverma >

wrote: Hi Sumit,>am doing only practices not readings . so to connect my

article to >some internet article is ur perception only. Indeed , it was my

very own perception which I felt like sharing.>the article i have given is only

outer parts , i have not gone in >deep too. if somebody wants to go more deep,

then also i can give >more details on this topic. I would be very interested in

knowing more about it. Please share the subtle and deeper aspects of your

perception. The details would definitely add to our understanding and are very

welcome.One more question I have always had in mindWhat happens to a person

(aatma, sookshma shareer, consciousness etc) after death ?Thanks for your

time.Regards,Shobhit.

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