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confuse ppl and fellow sadhaka's . Yes if you say something there are 3 chance

you are correct because you know or read it yourself or heard it from gurudev ,

some body said it to you and you just believed , thirdly is just your idea .The

books that you are saying are pretty new one in the sense of ages . In that

sense Shakti Sangam tantra is also recent written in 16 the century .Todala

Tantra comes from Bengal in 900-1000 which first gives the names of Mahavidya's

, before that the list of Mahavidya's as per rudrayamala was different , with

kubjika and sharika as deities. I do have no need of collecting books from the

libraries as i am a full time member of Royal Asiatic Society both Mumbai and

Calcutta , of Archives in Nepal Maharaja's Palace and many libraries in the

West .Never comment that the differnce is one only reads and you saw. You dont

know what others are doing or could do .If

you have read something from a place pls let others know whats the reference ,

where was Dhumavati linked to Saturn . We are happy to know that there exist a

"Matantar" in Shastra that says it .Yes to let you give a proof that what i

work with Sanskrit i will for example upload few pages of a orginal manuscript

for you too see in human handwritng dating any range between 1000-1600.For

eample few pages of ShaDvidyaagam which is the original source of bagalA and

Gyanrnava . There are many more ......There are many Matantar in Tantra Sadhana

, mostly seen in Dakshinaachar , and Vishnukranta discusses it , so if some

Matantar arises somewhere i will add to my notebook provided i read it from the

source not otherwise . Also dont say there are many "kachra books" , because the

books are written by tantrik's who were also scholars some day . Imagine the

magazine being said kachra by some else 100 yrs latter

, but is it so ? But pls never comment in a Sadhak - Samaj , that you only saw

others just read , if especially its tantra, as silence is the secret of this

trade . More over you might have noticed i only discuss the academics of tantra

i never speak of how to do rituals , as you some times help . That's not because

i only read books and not involved in any sadhana, because i will never say,

and my way of doing things does not match with many . I am involved in Vamachar

and Kaulachar .I have left the group , and i might not be able to upload the

sample's of manuscripts , i will send it to you directly , if its too hard .To

be honest there are 300 tantra books at my home , near by bed .RegardsBhairav

Bhai> > I m not allegated on any text but hw u confirm that u r having tru

text of these ansient text , if u r

beliving only in reffereces then check dashmahavidya tantra , dhoomavati

upanishad , valgaa samhita , u get get all this at yogiraj trijata aghori

library, by contecting him , > if I told something is definitly have some

concept I m here to help the sadhak guru bhais , what gurudev gave me is

another thing i need not to specify , that is great boon and kindness of

revered gurudev .> as u now get reference of books & u tlold u have

qualifications of shakti so i need not to specify where yogiraj trijata ji

meet.> u also get right info. of rudrayaamal , kankalmalini, etc. tantra from

his library,> since u more reffer bookish knowledge .> why should i

underestimate guru bhais , instead of performing this thing i feel more

pleasure in my sadhana, i m here for provide some help to gurubhais so that

they solve the

puzzle what they face in sadhana.> > thanking u> Gaurav> > > Jammer

wow <jammer_it2000 wrote:> Hello Brother , you are trying to avoid the

question and give a different answer . Saying that Todala Tantra is kachara is

not a wise statement . However a wise answer would be what is the reference ,

that says Dhumavati relates to Saturn . > The question is did you saw it

somewhere or you are saying just hearing it . Your answer does not stress that

gurudev said Dhumavati relates to Saturn . In fact he won't say . > How will

i be sure what you are saying is not kachra . You tell the name of the tantra

where it says Dumavati relates to satrun or say the answer it not known to you

.. > Yes , right now it looks there are definitely kachra information

being passed here .> Friend if you are really into tantra , then you should

not underestimate gurubhai's. Since you have qualified something does not prove

others cannot qualify. > If you are so great in sadhana can you openly answer

the following question > 1. What is the significance of or meaning of kreem ,

hreem , kleema mantras .> 2. Why does kAli holds a bunch of human hands in her

waist ?> 3. What does she signify by holding a human head on her hand ?>

4.Whats the significance of her mundamala ? > 5. Why does her Khadga shows

color of blood . > 6. Why does any kumar / kumari shakti form of mahamaya

sits on a peacock .> 6. Why does brahmani shakti sits on a swan .> 7. Where

was the first dhyan of kAli found .> 8. From which mouth / aanan mahadeva

speaks kali tantra .> You say many texts are true not all . So please say

which are true which are false. So which are true which are false . Rudrayamal

is false ? Mundamala is false ? Shakti Sangam tantra is false ? Todala Tantra is

false ? Kankalmalini is false ? The 64 bhairavagam are false . Then everthing

is false . > These books or tantras have all been written by 600 -1100 .

Except for rudrayamala translated by 500 BC .> You are trying to pull you up

saying one does not have conciousness , thats shows your ego . You have not

known the meaning of a sadhana then a proper sadhak does not behave this way .

How many nights have you passed in smashan ? How may purascharan , how about

shab sadhana ? Did you already reach the climax of all these ? > This is a

place to share information , and not to force people believe in what you do

believe.

> There has been no hypocrisy from my part , rather check in the english

grammar book a statement " A little learning is a dangerous thing ". > Here

ppl are son of same mother . So trying to prove who you are here does not help

.. Show it to her . > Regards> Bhairav Bhai> > > > > > gaurav

shrimali <gaurav_nikhil26 wrote:> jai gurudev,> > first of

all i want to specify that several type of kachara is spread in sadhana word

that affect over the sadhak , even saptshati & gita is not purifed as

maarkandey &krishna described so how u conform that all this corruped myth

granth are pure . so what is the way to know the actrual thing is

only by gurudev.> > main reson is that u dont have that much sadhana &

power to know the actual thing so u generally hunted by that kachara ,

definitly it is not possible that every one perform deep meditation of

yogashakti for seeing actaul thing in its previous stage so what is gurudev

said is ultimate truth.> > many texts can true but not all , & u also

dont have that much conciasness to understand that deep sense & sadhana of this

so many time some missconception is create .> > as u needed I will provide

related information , > > thanking u> Gaurav S.> ajay sharma

<sharva_ajay wrote:> Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshawram>

> Dear Gurubhai

Gaurav,> > We have got following informattion from an astrological

magazine. We realise that it is different from the source from which you have

got similar information. > > We would request to give information as per

your source of astrological reference. > If you some information on this

subject available from Gurudev's book on astrology, then please mail it for our

reference. If Gurudev has said something on this subject then it is final word

and there is no room for any doubt. > > Sri Matangeshwari-------Associated

planet---Sun> Sri Bhuwaneshwari-------Associated Planet---Moon> Sri

Bagalamukhi---------" ---Mars> Sri Tripur

Sundari------" ---Mercury> Sri Kamala---------------"

---Venus> Sri Mahakaali------------"

---Saturn> Sri Chhinnamastika-------" ---Rahu>

Sri Dhoomavati -------" ---Ketu> Sri

Tripur Bhairavi------" ---Lagna(Ascendent Sign in Birth

chart) > > As you have said that Dhoomavati signifies Saturn, chances are

there there may be some difference in other planetary association also in the

above list.We want to correct this list from any mistakes.> > In the current

times Gurudev have emphasised greatly on Sri Bagalmukhi & Sri Dhoomavati

sadhnas, as it has been displayed prominently on Gurudev's website.>

Unfavourable combinations of Mars & Saturn are mostly involved in causing mass

distruction through war,natural calamities,accidents etc.> > If Sri

Bagalamukhi & Sri Dhumavati are also involved in reducing the ill effects of

Mars & Saturn then the

importance of these sadhana can be imagined in the current troubled times.>

Please share the information you have regarding planetary associations of

DasMahavidyas.> > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram> > > >

gaurav shrimali <gaurav_nikhil26 wrote:> Jai gurudev,> > if u

reffenced brihatjatakparijat by varahamihir ,there is no info. of kaalsarp yog

in its actual granth. dhoomavti is releted to saturn not ketu ,that once I

previously said to members.> > in this time that Kaalasarp is previously

known as sarpdansh dosh or naag dosh, in which 188 form of this dosh in diffent

type of astral aspects was defined. and having control of 6 naags of lord shiv

named vaasuki,takshak,kulik,karkotak,shankh chud,&

shesh.> > because lot of stuff is running on it so I have to clear this

thing . right now ,what happed that every econd astrological book make

hyprocrisy of this so keep alert from all of this stuffs .> > thanking u>

Gaurav Shrimali > > Jammer wow <jammer_it2000 wrote:> Kalsharpa

dasha is a dasha due to ketu . Ketu normally is not very well placed in charts

.. I mean there are persons for whom Ketu favors but they are mostly vairagya

mukhi people . That is why the dasha mahavidya Dhumavati is linked to Ketu ,

and Dhumavati is also symbol of viraga . But Dhumavati worship is not for all

so i had said about rudraskha . > Satyendra ji when you speak out in the air

be sure to have necessary documents in support of your answer . Take a look at

brihatjatakparijat

by varahamihir .> > Regards> > Dhirendra Pal Singh <dpal.singh wrote:>

Hello Satyendra Ji,> How are you.> > you have mentioned that kaal sharap yoga

is not harmful.. its surprising.. > > I have it myself and have been warned by

every one to be careful... > On net I found the following page.. and its kind

of contradicting to what you said..> > http://www.hinduastrology.com/kal.asp> >

Please throw some light as, in my case I have told that I will have it till the

age of 32 which have been bothering me, always...> > for above link, I am

pasting a snip, which holds quite true in my case (not all the symptoms

though)> > ***********> the native having Kaal Sarp Yog suffers from mental

unrest, hurdles in gain of wealth,

barriers in having children and uninterrupted disputes in married life. Usually

the native sees bad dreams and there is danger of sudden death. Different fears

and worries persist. The native does not get full reward of his talents.

Normally the success in work is delayed. Sudden loss of money or prestige is an

indication of this yoga. The native without any reason suffers from diseases

that are not cured by medicine.> **************> > Regards> Dp> > > On

2/26/06, satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk wrote: do u know kaal sharap

yoga is not harmful at all...its> just a wrong belief of people...> > dont put

urself into this acts of pooja-anusthann just> becoz of kaal sharp

yoga.........> people like abhishek bachchan are also having kaal > sharp

yoga...and how harmful is this for them?> > > --- Jammer wow

<jammer_it2000 wrote:> > > Without doing anything first take a combination

of > > 8-9-10 mukhi rudraksha , there are good rudraksha> > shops in mumbai .>

> Bhairav Bhai> >> > nitin <nitinbhowmick wrote:> > hi > > date of

birth 6 oct 1977> > time of birth 22 05> > place of birth

mumbai(maharashtra india )> > day of birth thursday> >> >> > please

help me i am facing proble in everywork > > and please tell me> > when i am

going to marry and when i am going to> > settle in my life and> > tell

something about my future> >> > for more information i have done

kalsarpyoga> > puja last year

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