Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I am not only doing tantra as per the mantra of my guru , i am a researcher in Tantra and Indology in USA and Hamburg for last 8 yrs . Thats also guru's advice . I guess you have doubts because you yourself have not seen the books but they are availabile as microfilms from British Library UK , University of Pennsylvania . Well you might be here to help ppl , but i also did not join to confuse ppl and fellow sadhaka's . Yes if you say something there are 3 chance you are correct because you know or read it yourself or heard it from gurudev , some body said it to you and you just believed , thirdly is just your idea . The books that you are saying are pretty new one in the sense of ages . In that sense Shakti Sangam tantra is also recent written in 16 the century . Todala Tantra comes from Bengal in 900-1000 which first gives the names of Mahavidya's , before that the list of Mahavidya's as per rudrayamala was different , with kubjika and sharika as deities. I do have no need of collecting books from the libraries as i am a full time member of Royal Asiatic Society both Mumbai and Calcutta , of Archives in Nepal Maharaja's Palace and many libraries in the West . Never comment that the differnce is one only reads and you saw. You dont know what others are doing or could do . If you have read something from a place pls let others know whats the reference , where was Dhumavati linked to Saturn . We are happy to know that there exist a "Matantar" in Shastra that says it . Yes to let you give a proof that what i work with Sanskrit i will for example upload few pages of a orginal manuscript for you too see in human handwritng dating any range between 1000-1600. For eample few pages of ShaDvidyaagam which is the original source of bagalA and Gyanrnava . There are many more ...... There are many Matantar in Tantra Sadhana , mostly seen in Dakshinaachar , and Vishnukranta discusses it , so if some Matantar arises somewhere i will add to my notebook provided i read it from the source not otherwise . Also dont say there are many "kachra books" , because the books are written by tantrik's who were also scholars some day . Imagine the magazine being said kachra by some else 100 yrs latter , but is it so ? But pls never comment in a Sadhak - Samaj , that you only saw others just read , if especially its tantra, as silence is the secret of this trade . More over you might have noticed i only discuss the academics of tantra i never speak of how to do rituals , as you some times help . That's not because i only read books and not involved in any sadhana, because i will never say, and my way of doing things does not match with many . I am involved in Vamachar and Kaulachar . I have left the group , and i might not be able to upload the sample's of manuscripts , i will send it to you directly , if its too hard . To be honest there are 300 tantra books at my home , near by bed . Regards Bhairav Bhai > > I m not allegated on any text but hw u confirm that u r having tru text of these ansient text , if u r beliving only in reffereces then check dashmahavidya tantra , dhoomavati upanishad , valgaa samhita , u get get all this at yogiraj trijata aghori library, by contecting him , > if I told something is definitly have some concept I m here to help the sadhak guru bhais , what gurudev gave me is another thing i need not to specify , that is great boon and kindness of revered gurudev . > as u now get reference of books & u tlold u have qualifications of shakti so i need not to specify where yogiraj trijata ji meet. > u also get right info. of rudrayaamal , kankalmalini, etc. tantra from his library, > since u more reffer bookish knowledge . > why should i underestimate guru bhais , instead of performing this thing i feel more pleasure in my sadhana, i m here for provide some help to gurubhais so that they solve the puzzle what they face in sadhana. > > thanking u > Gaurav > > > Jammer wow <jammer_it2000 wrote: > Hello Brother , you are trying to avoid the question and give a different answer . Saying that Todala Tantra is kachara is not a wise statement . However a wise answer would be what is the reference , that says Dhumavati relates to Saturn . > The question is did you saw it somewhere or you are saying just hearing it . Your answer does not stress that gurudev said Dhumavati relates to Saturn . In fact he won't say . > How will i be sure what you are saying is not kachra . You tell the name of the tantra where it says Dumavati relates to satrun or say the answer it not known to you . > Yes , right now it looks there are definitely kachra information being passed here . > Friend if you are really into tantra , then you should not underestimate gurubhai's. Since you have qualified something does not prove others cannot qualify. > If you are so great in sadhana can you openly answer the following question > 1. What is the significance of or meaning of kreem , hreem , kleema mantras . > 2. Why does kAli holds a bunch of human hands in her waist ? > 3. What does she signify by holding a human head on her hand ? > 4.Whats the significance of her mundamala ? > 5. Why does her Khadga shows color of blood . > 6. Why does any kumar / kumari shakti form of mahamaya sits on a peacock . > 6. Why does brahmani shakti sits on a swan . > 7. Where was the first dhyan of kAli found . > 8. From which mouth / aanan mahadeva speaks kali tantra . > You say many texts are true not all . So please say which are true which are false. So which are true which are false . Rudrayamal is false ? Mundamala is false ? Shakti Sangam tantra is false ? Todala Tantra is false ? Kankalmalini is false ? The 64 bhairavagam are false . Then everthing is false . > These books or tantras have all been written by 600 -1100 . Except for rudrayamala translated by 500 BC . > You are trying to pull you up saying one does not have conciousness , thats shows your ego . You have not known the meaning of a sadhana then a proper sadhak does not behave this way . How many nights have you passed in smashan ? How may purascharan , how about shab sadhana ? Did you already reach the climax of all these ? > This is a place to share information , and not to force people believe in what you do believe. > There has been no hypocrisy from my part , rather check in the english grammar book a statement " A little learning is a dangerous thing ". > Here ppl are son of same mother . So trying to prove who you are here does not help . Show it to her . > Regards > Bhairav Bhai > > > > > > gaurav shrimali <gaurav_nikhil26 wrote: > jai gurudev, > > first of all i want to specify that several type of kachara is spread in sadhana word that affect over the sadhak , even saptshati & gita is not purifed as maarkandey &krishna described so how u conform that all this corruped myth granth are pure . so what is the way to know the actrual thing is only by gurudev. > > main reson is that u dont have that much sadhana & power to know the actual thing so u generally hunted by that kachara , definitly it is not possible that every one perform deep meditation of yogashakti for seeing actaul thing in its previous stage so what is gurudev said is ultimate truth. > > many texts can true but not all , & u also dont have that much conciasness to understand that deep sense & sadhana of this so many time some missconception is create . > > as u needed I will provide related information , > > thanking u > Gaurav S. > ajay sharma <sharva_ajay wrote: > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshawram > > Dear Gurubhai Gaurav, > > We have got following informattion from an astrological magazine. We realise that it is different from the source from which you have got similar information. > > We would request to give information as per your source of astrological reference. > If you some information on this subject available from Gurudev's book on astrology, then please mail it for our reference. If Gurudev has said something on this subject then it is final word and there is no room for any doubt. > > Sri Matangeshwari-------Associated planet---Sun > Sri Bhuwaneshwari-------Associated Planet---Moon > Sri Bagalamukhi---------" ---Mars > Sri Tripur Sundari------" ---Mercury > Sri Kamala---------------" ---Venus > Sri Mahakaali------------" ---Saturn > Sri Chhinnamastika-------" ---Rahu > Sri Dhoomavati -------" ---Ketu > Sri Tripur Bhairavi------" ---Lagna (Ascendent Sign in Birth chart) > > As you have said that Dhoomavati signifies Saturn, chances are there there may be some difference in other planetary association also in the above list.We want to correct this list from any mistakes. > > In the current times Gurudev have emphasised greatly on Sri Bagalmukhi & Sri Dhoomavati sadhnas, as it has been displayed prominently on Gurudev's website. > Unfavourable combinations of Mars & Saturn are mostly involved in causing mass distruction through war,natural calamities,accidents etc. > > If Sri Bagalamukhi & Sri Dhumavati are also involved in reducing the ill effects of Mars & Saturn then the importance of these sadhana can be imagined in the current troubled times. > Please share the information you have regarding planetary associations of DasMahavidyas. > > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram > > > > gaurav shrimali <gaurav_nikhil26 wrote: > Jai gurudev, > > if u reffenced brihatjatakparijat by varahamihir ,there is no info. of kaalsarp yog in its actual granth. dhoomavti is releted to saturn not ketu ,that once I previously said to members. > > in this time that Kaalasarp is previously known as sarpdansh dosh or naag dosh, in which 188 form of this dosh in diffent type of astral aspects was defined. and having control of 6 naags of lord shiv named vaasuki,takshak,kulik,karkotak,shankh chud,& shesh. > > because lot of stuff is running on it so I have to clear this thing . right now ,what happed that every econd astrological book make hyprocrisy of this so keep alert from all of this stuffs . > > thanking u > Gaurav Shrimali > > Jammer wow <jammer_it2000 wrote: > Kalsharpa dasha is a dasha due to ketu . Ketu normally is not very well placed in charts . I mean there are persons for whom Ketu favors but they are mostly vairagya mukhi people . That is why the dasha mahavidya Dhumavati is linked to Ketu , and Dhumavati is also symbol of viraga . But Dhumavati worship is not for all so i had said about rudraskha . > Satyendra ji when you speak out in the air be sure to have necessary documents in support of your answer . Take a look at brihatjatakparijat by varahamihir . > > Regards > > Dhirendra Pal Singh <dpal.singh wrote: > Hello Satyendra Ji, > How are you. > > you have mentioned that kaal sharap yoga is not harmful.. its surprising.. > > I have it myself and have been warned by every one to be careful... > On net I found the following page.. and its kind of contradicting to what you said.. > > http://www.hinduastrology.com/kal.asp > > Please throw some light as, in my case I have told that I will have it till the age of 32 which have been bothering me, always... > > for above link, I am pasting a snip, which holds quite true in my case (not all the symptoms though) > > *********** > the native having Kaal Sarp Yog suffers from mental unrest, hurdles in gain of wealth, barriers in having children and uninterrupted disputes in married life. Usually the native sees bad dreams and there is danger of sudden death. Different fears and worries persist. The native does not get full reward of his talents. Normally the success in work is delayed. Sudden loss of money or prestige is an indication of this yoga. The native without any reason suffers from diseases that are not cured by medicine. > ************** > > Regards > Dp > > > On 2/26/06, satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk wrote: do u know kaal sharap yoga is not harmful at all...its > just a wrong belief of people... > > dont put urself into this acts of pooja-anusthann just > becoz of kaal sharp yoga......... > people like abhishek bachchan are also having kaal > sharp yoga...and how harmful is this for them? > > > --- Jammer wow <jammer_it2000 wrote: > > > Without doing anything first take a combination of > > 8-9-10 mukhi rudraksha , there are good rudraksha > > shops in mumbai . > > Bhairav Bhai > > > > nitin <nitinbhowmick wrote: > > hi > > date of birth 6 oct 1977 > > time of birth 22 05 > > place of birth mumbai(maharashtra india ) > > day of birth thursday > > > > > > please help me i am facing proble in everywork > > and please tell me > > when i am going to marry and when i am going to > > settle in my life and > > tell something about my future > > > > for more information i have done kalsarpyoga > > puja last year in > > tryambakeshwar in maharashtrahi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay Gurudev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > To from this group, send an email > > to: > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with > > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay Gurudev > > > > > Links > > > > -- > Thanks > /dev/dp > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > Relax. 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