Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 hi jammer, i saw ur msg in group about the eligibility criteria of enterning into siddhashram,,, the site has mentioned that two mahavidyas must be done successfully as a criteria for that..... but its not like it...there are others too, who have been there without it... if you read the , "autobiography of a yogi", there is a chapter in which lahiri mahashaya has put his own experience of a "palace of gold" in a valley and mahavatari babaji", who had given him diksha,,,, lahiri mahasaya entered into that ashram without any mahavidya siddhi,,,just due to his good work and a desire in his last birth ....mahavatari baba is still in touch with siddhashram,,,,,it is also mentioned in guru nikhilji site (at number 10).. in the site, it has been also mentioned that few people were taken there to make it trustworthy that such place exists, no one of them had done even any easy siddhi,,,mahavidya is too advanced case..... it indicates, that if a guru or siddhashram authority wish, they can call anyone there in ashram,,,no need of mahavidya... anyone who does surya sadhna or simply surya tratak, he becomes able to see anything in this whole universe.....through that also, not only this siddhashram but more "shooksma ashrams" can be seen,,,or may be "gandharv nagar"...... i have seen that people here in this group and outside also wish to go to siddhashram,,,,some has this as their only wish in life,,,,but do they know that there are more shooksma ashrams, where those who are already sitting (or doing great sadhnas) in siddhashram also wish to go....... THE WISH SHOULD NOT BE TO GO TO SIDDHASHRAM BUT TO ACHIEVE THE DIVINE LIGHT, THE SUPREME POWER, GOD...THE ULTIMATE GOAL.... this is what, the gurus in siddashram desire for..... regards satyendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hi Satyendra , i think we did not get the point . Although i have not read abt the book you say , i am aware of many guru's who had been there is siddhashram - infact many were vaishnav , forget being into tantra . But i just mentioned the eligibility in my last mail just to stress that siddhi of one mahavidya means "something" . , satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk wrote: > > hi jammer, i saw ur msg in group about the eligibility > criteria of enterning into siddhashram,,, > the site has mentioned that two mahavidyas must be > done successfully as a criteria for that..... > but its not like it...there are others too, who have > been there without it... > > if you read the , "autobiography of a yogi", there is > a chapter in which lahiri mahashaya has put his own > experience of a "palace of gold" in a valley and > mahavatari babaji", who had given him diksha,,,, > lahiri mahasaya entered into that ashram without any > mahavidya siddhi,,,just due to his good work and a > desire in his last birth ....mahavatari baba is still > in touch with siddhashram,,,,,it is also mentioned in > guru nikhilji site (at number 10).. > > in the site, it has been also mentioned that few > people were taken there to make it trustworthy that > such place exists, no one of them had done even any > easy siddhi,,,mahavidya is too advanced case..... > > it indicates, that if a guru or siddhashram authority > wish, they can call anyone there in ashram,,,no need > of mahavidya... > > anyone who does surya sadhna or simply surya tratak, > he becomes able to see anything in this whole > universe.....through that also, not only this > siddhashram but more "shooksma ashrams" can be > seen,,,or may be "gandharv nagar"...... > > i have seen that people here in this group and outside > also wish to go to siddhashram,,,,some has this as > their only wish in life,,,,but do they know that there > are more shooksma ashrams, where those who are already > sitting (or doing great sadhnas) in siddhashram also > wish to go....... > > > THE WISH SHOULD NOT BE TO GO TO SIDDHASHRAM BUT TO > ACHIEVE THE DIVINE LIGHT, THE SUPREME POWER, GOD...THE > ULTIMATE GOAL.... > > this is what, the gurus in siddashram desire for..... > > regards > satyendra > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Sadhaks should be careful while doing Surya Traatak. One of the Gurudev's book on Hypnotism mentions mastering few steps of doing traatak before fixing eyes on the Sun to perform Surya Traatak. Traatak on Shakti Chaktra on wall,on a candle flame, on flames of burning wood, on a star in the sky etc. are few steps which need to mastered properly one by one before directing your eyes towards Sun carefully. If you want more knowledge you may read these books written by Gurudev. Nikhileshawram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshawram , satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk wrote: > > hi jammer, i saw ur msg in group about the eligibility > criteria of enterning into siddhashram,,, > the site has mentioned that two mahavidyas must be > done successfully as a criteria for that..... > but its not like it...there are others too, who have > been there without it... > > if you read the , "autobiography of a yogi", there is > a chapter in which lahiri mahashaya has put his own > experience of a "palace of gold" in a valley and > mahavatari babaji", who had given him diksha,,,, > lahiri mahasaya entered into that ashram without any > mahavidya siddhi,,,just due to his good work and a > desire in his last birth ....mahavatari baba is still > in touch with siddhashram,,,,,it is also mentioned in > guru nikhilji site (at number 10).. > > in the site, it has been also mentioned that few > people were taken there to make it trustworthy that > such place exists, no one of them had done even any > easy siddhi,,,mahavidya is too advanced case..... > > it indicates, that if a guru or siddhashram authority > wish, they can call anyone there in ashram,,,no need > of mahavidya... > > anyone who does surya sadhna or simply surya tratak, > he becomes able to see anything in this whole > universe.....through that also, not only this > siddhashram but more "shooksma ashrams" can be > seen,,,or may be "gandharv nagar"...... > > i have seen that people here in this group and outside > also wish to go to siddhashram,,,,some has this as > their only wish in life,,,,but do they know that there > are more shooksma ashrams, where those who are already > sitting (or doing great sadhnas) in siddhashram also > wish to go....... > > > THE WISH SHOULD NOT BE TO GO TO SIDDHASHRAM BUT TO > ACHIEVE THE DIVINE LIGHT, THE SUPREME POWER, GOD...THE > ULTIMATE GOAL.... > > this is what, the gurus in siddashram desire for..... > > regards > satyendra > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Smile. Something is obviously needed. --- <jammer_it2000 wrote: > > Hi Satyendra , i think we did not get the point . Although i have not > read abt the book you say , i am aware of many guru's who had been > there is siddhashram - infact many were vaishnav , forget being into > tantra . But i just mentioned the eligibility in my last mail just to > stress that siddhi of one mahavidya means "something" . > > > , satyendra k gupta > <rsmultimediauk wrote: > > > > hi jammer, i saw ur msg in group about the eligibility > > criteria of enterning into siddhashram,,, > > the site has mentioned that two mahavidyas must be > > done successfully as a criteria for that..... > > but its not like it...there are others too, who have > > been there without it... > > > > if you read the , "autobiography of a yogi", there is > > a chapter in which lahiri mahashaya has put his own > > experience of a "palace of gold" in a valley and > > mahavatari babaji", who had given him diksha,,,, > > lahiri mahasaya entered into that ashram without any > > mahavidya siddhi,,,just due to his good work and a > > desire in his last birth ....mahavatari baba is still > > in touch with siddhashram,,,,,it is also mentioned in > > guru nikhilji site (at number 10).. > > > > in the site, it has been also mentioned that few > > people were taken there to make it trustworthy that > > such place exists, no one of them had done even any > > easy siddhi,,,mahavidya is too advanced case..... > > > > it indicates, that if a guru or siddhashram authority > > wish, they can call anyone there in ashram,,,no need > > of mahavidya... > > > > anyone who does surya sadhna or simply surya tratak, > > he becomes able to see anything in this whole > > universe.....through that also, not only this > > siddhashram but more "shooksma ashrams" can be > > seen,,,or may be "gandharv nagar"...... > > > > i have seen that people here in this group and outside > > also wish to go to siddhashram,,,,some has this as > > their only wish in life,,,,but do they know that there > > are more shooksma ashrams, where those who are already > > sitting (or doing great sadhnas) in siddhashram also > > wish to go....... > > > > > > THE WISH SHOULD NOT BE TO GO TO SIDDHASHRAM BUT TO > > ACHIEVE THE DIVINE LIGHT, THE SUPREME POWER, GOD...THE > > ULTIMATE GOAL.... > > > > this is what, the gurus in siddashram desire for..... > > > > regards > > satyendra > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Sun is not the only one, which is seen in the sky in our galaxy. Sun tatva is in our body too. Use it. Susumna naadi does the same. Satyendra --- <sharva_ajay wrote: > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram > > > Sadhaks should be careful while doing Surya Traatak. > One of the Gurudev's book on Hypnotism mentions mastering few steps > of doing traatak before fixing eyes on the Sun to perform > Surya Traatak. > Traatak on Shakti Chaktra on wall,on a candle flame, > on flames of burning wood, on a star in the sky etc. > are few steps which need to mastered properly one by one > before directing your eyes towards Sun carefully. > > If you want more knowledge you may read these books written by > Gurudev. > > Nikhileshawram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshawram > > > > , satyendra k gupta > <rsmultimediauk wrote: > > > > hi jammer, i saw ur msg in group about the eligibility > > criteria of enterning into siddhashram,,, > > the site has mentioned that two mahavidyas must be > > done successfully as a criteria for that..... > > but its not like it...there are others too, who have > > been there without it... > > > > if you read the , "autobiography of a yogi", there is > > a chapter in which lahiri mahashaya has put his own > > experience of a "palace of gold" in a valley and > > mahavatari babaji", who had given him diksha,,,, > > lahiri mahasaya entered into that ashram without any > > mahavidya siddhi,,,just due to his good work and a > > desire in his last birth ....mahavatari baba is still > > in touch with siddhashram,,,,,it is also mentioned in > > guru nikhilji site (at number 10).. > > > > in the site, it has been also mentioned that few > > people were taken there to make it trustworthy that > > such place exists, no one of them had done even any > > easy siddhi,,,mahavidya is too advanced case..... > > > > it indicates, that if a guru or siddhashram authority > > wish, they can call anyone there in ashram,,,no need > > of mahavidya... > > > > anyone who does surya sadhna or simply surya tratak, > > he becomes able to see anything in this whole > > universe.....through that also, not only this > > siddhashram but more "shooksma ashrams" can be > > seen,,,or may be "gandharv nagar"...... > > > > i have seen that people here in this group and outside > > also wish to go to siddhashram,,,,some has this as > > their only wish in life,,,,but do they know that there > > are more shooksma ashrams, where those who are already > > sitting (or doing great sadhnas) in siddhashram also > > wish to go....... > > > > > > THE WISH SHOULD NOT BE TO GO TO SIDDHASHRAM BUT TO > > ACHIEVE THE DIVINE LIGHT, THE SUPREME POWER, GOD...THE > > ULTIMATE GOAL.... > > > > this is what, the gurus in siddashram desire for..... > > > > regards > > satyendra > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > === Message Truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Do not hold a western stereotype in your mind that tantra means using objectionable items and activities. Tantra simply means technique and Vaishnavs also use some method for their sadhnas. Among the 64 major classifications of Tantra there is one called "Vishnuyamal Tantra".Jains also have very prominent Tantra sadhnas. Leadinga Satvic Life is not an obstacle for doing Tantra Sadhna. Nikhileshawram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram , "jammer_it2000" <jammer_it2000 wrote: > > > Hi Satyendra , i think we did not get the point . Although i have not > read abt the book you say , i am aware of many guru's who had been > there is siddhashram - infact many were vaishnav , forget being into > tantra . But i just mentioned the eligibility in my last mail just to > stress that siddhi of one mahavidya means "something" . > > > , satyendra k gupta > <rsmultimediauk@> wrote: > > > > hi jammer, i saw ur msg in group about the eligibility > > criteria of enterning into siddhashram,,, > > the site has mentioned that two mahavidyas must be > > done successfully as a criteria for that..... > > but its not like it...there are others too, who have > > been there without it... > > > > if you read the , "autobiography of a yogi", there is > > a chapter in which lahiri mahashaya has put his own > > experience of a "palace of gold" in a valley and > > mahavatari babaji", who had given him diksha,,,, > > lahiri mahasaya entered into that ashram without any > > mahavidya siddhi,,,just due to his good work and a > > desire in his last birth ....mahavatari baba is still > > in touch with siddhashram,,,,,it is also mentioned in > > guru nikhilji site (at number 10).. > > > > in the site, it has been also mentioned that few > > people were taken there to make it trustworthy that > > such place exists, no one of them had done even any > > easy siddhi,,,mahavidya is too advanced case..... > > > > it indicates, that if a guru or siddhashram authority > > wish, they can call anyone there in ashram,,,no need > > of mahavidya... > > > > anyone who does surya sadhna or simply surya tratak, > > he becomes able to see anything in this whole > > universe.....through that also, not only this > > siddhashram but more "shooksma ashrams" can be > > seen,,,or may be "gandharv nagar"...... > > > > i have seen that people here in this group and outside > > also wish to go to siddhashram,,,,some has this as > > their only wish in life,,,,but do they know that there > > are more shooksma ashrams, where those who are already > > sitting (or doing great sadhnas) in siddhashram also > > wish to go....... > > > > > > THE WISH SHOULD NOT BE TO GO TO SIDDHASHRAM BUT TO > > ACHIEVE THE DIVINE LIGHT, THE SUPREME POWER, GOD...THE > > ULTIMATE GOAL.... > > > > this is what, the gurus in siddashram desire for..... > > > > regards > > satyendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Few days back you were telling the group about sadhana of looking at the Sun for long time. Now suddenly you realised there is another element of Sun in our own body.Eureka. Good. Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram , satyendra k gupta <rsmultimediauk wrote: > > Sun is not the only one, which is seen in the sky in > our galaxy. > Sun tatva is in our body too. Use it. > Susumna naadi does the same. > Satyendra > --- <sharva_ajay > wrote: > > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram > > > > > > Sadhaks should be careful while doing Surya > Traatak. > > One of the Gurudev's book on Hypnotism mentions > mastering few steps > > of doing traatak before fixing eyes on the Sun to > perform > > Surya Traatak. > > Traatak on Shakti Chaktra on wall,on a candle flame, > > on flames of burning wood, on a star in the sky etc. > > are few steps which need to mastered properly one by > one > > before directing your eyes towards Sun carefully. > > > > If you want more knowledge you may read these books > written by > > Gurudev. > > > > Nikhileshawram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshawram > > > > > > > > , satyendra k gupta > > <rsmultimediauk@> wrote: > > > > > > hi jammer, i saw ur msg in group about the > eligibility > > > criteria of enterning into siddhashram,,, > > > the site has mentioned that two mahavidyas must be > > > done successfully as a criteria for that..... > > > but its not like it...there are others too, who > have > > > been there without it... > > > > > > if you read the , "autobiography of a yogi", there > is > > > a chapter in which lahiri mahashaya has put his > own > > > experience of a "palace of gold" in a valley and > > > mahavatari babaji", who had given him diksha,,,, > > > lahiri mahasaya entered into that ashram without > any > > > mahavidya siddhi,,,just due to his good work and a > > > desire in his last birth ....mahavatari baba is > still > > > in touch with siddhashram,,,,,it is also mentioned > in > > > guru nikhilji site (at number 10).. > > > > > > in the site, it has been also mentioned that few > > > people were taken there to make it trustworthy > that > > > such place exists, no one of them had done even > any > > > easy siddhi,,,mahavidya is too advanced case..... > > > > > > it indicates, that if a guru or siddhashram > authority > > > wish, they can call anyone there in ashram,,,no > need > > > of mahavidya... > > > > > > anyone who does surya sadhna or simply surya > tratak, > > > he becomes able to see anything in this whole > > > universe.....through that also, not only this > > > siddhashram but more "shooksma ashrams" can be > > > seen,,,or may be "gandharv nagar"...... > > > > > > i have seen that people here in this group and > outside > > > also wish to go to siddhashram,,,,some has this as > > > their only wish in life,,,,but do they know that > there > > > are more shooksma ashrams, where those who are > already > > > sitting (or doing great sadhnas) in siddhashram > also > > > wish to go....... > > > > > > > > > THE WISH SHOULD NOT BE TO GO TO SIDDHASHRAM BUT TO > > > ACHIEVE THE DIVINE LIGHT, THE SUPREME POWER, > GOD...THE > > > ULTIMATE GOAL.... > > > > > > this is what, the gurus in siddashram desire > for..... > > > > > > regards > > > satyendra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > === Message Truncated === > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 You just committed a blunder openly saying saing Vishnuyamala is a tantra of vaishnav . It is a Bhairavagama ,the name obviously says what is it . Trying to understand the contents of a tantra by looking at the name just says the person is not aware of tantra , take a look at bhairav tantra does it have any matters of bhairav ? Take a look at bhairavi tantra , what does it say about bhairavi - nothing . Take a look at yogini tantra - is there something about yogini ? Moreover that book has been lost much before the other yamal's came to existence . If you do not like me in this group you can point blank say ; but questioning me to say something could result you listening un heard things which many ppl in this group objected . Saying others that you do not know the science is just spitting up - falls on your face - its just a way to defend that you cant say . Man !! If you are so interested first go through the details of the first 60 chapters of rudrayamala then lets talk of the science . I am neither western nor muslim . But do not make a feeling of shia and sunni in a group like this . Did you hear the latest news in Iraq. Gurudev Nikhil have himself said to learn from any source , did he not . Rather you are tending to be of literotype trying to understand tantra as word to word . The first word of tantra is metaphor left n right , unless u get it , i am sorry . Satyendra just pointed out Tara lies in head to realise the science of that fact , you better wait for magizines to come . Rather your ego is not letting you to hear something , did i speak a single time who is my guru ? How do you know after all . Any way . After reading your letters , i realised shia and sunni do have a base for going to a civil war . You will never see any msg in the group from myside. R u happy boy ? Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram You have read so many books, didnt you read anywhere that vaishnavs use Bagalamukhi sadhana to do stambhan of their Krodha(anger). Bagalmukhi is definetely based on tantra and Guru Gamaya Tradition only. Vaishnavs also use it. We are not surfing any old books, still so much is available in sources which are easily available. Tantra does not confine it to any community. That is for Sure. Our Gurudev Nikhil and many others have said this fact. Tantra means technique. Even routine actvities like offering water and milk on shivalinga or offering tulsi leaves on Sahligram are part of Tantra. Now dont say that because everybody do this then this is not tantra. Tantra encompasses whole nature, whole universe in diverse forms. Books on tantra are deatils of different techniques and they are not exaustive. you will keep on quoting that this is written there that mantra appears there, but stop for a moment. Is it end of it. If you have all the books at your disposal which have been written till now, what will it mean. Full stop. That is just sum total of Tantra? You are just passing through a psychlogical condition where a person just do not want to leave anything "uncertain", because uncertainity generates fear. Tantra is such a powerful science that you feel very unsecure when something is not defined as per your exeperience and soources of information. It is a reality. Look inside yourself. Other day someone in this group asked you to be careful for doing Bairav sadhna, telling you that it is very powerful. Do you remember your answer? Yous said why would someone do a sadhan if it is not powerful, just for fun. This was your answer. When Das Mahavidya mantra was given in this group, you took U turn. Now you were saying that a sadhak can not bear such a power, his kundalini shakti will just rush through. What happened now? Sadhnas are not for fun. More the power the power better it is. Remember it is your philosophy. Nothing wrong in it but why change when you come across sadhna so powerful even beyond your imagination. You act in such a way that if you can understand something then it is fine, then you do not bother about the power of sadhna. Dus Mahavidya mantra was new to you and you were not accepting it, because you had never heard about this. Instead of going into the depth of matter you staright away put a question mark on sadhana and its source. This just shows your closed mind which accepts things only as per your choice. If you were really sincere about learning more, you would have checked the facts for yourslef and contacted Jodhpur Gurudham. You would have spent sometime about studing finer aspects of new sadhnas. You just kept on looking for information on the basis of your sources of information. If the name of rishi of the mantra is familiar to you then the mantra is OK otherwise it is suspect. You follow this policy. You have developed the habit of checking on the basis of your own benchmarks. Wow what a agreat show of morality....... You will say anything about sadhnas given by our Gurudev and do not expect to be confronted. We will not ask about your Guru. We are not like you to raise question mark on someone's Guru. By leaving this group you would not be doing something like Sonia Gandhi resigning from lok sabha. By comparing us to shia-sunni you have shown that your mental bending is towrads west. Otherwise you would have seen what the Americans have done to Iraq, what Americans did to Japan ealier, what Hitler and Stalin did, what British and French did in 100 year war and countless other wars. Your so called ideals of werstern philosphy and thinking has written enough dark chapters in the history of mankind that you can spend rest of life reading them. By telling the importance of Guru in Tantra Sadhna we wanted to make you see those points which you didnot want to.You just didnt notice. Probably that is reason why your respected Guru has asked to do reasearch on tantra because you might not had listened to Him. Instead of following yours Guru's direction you must have started bringing up references of books. After that Your Guru didnt had anychoice, but to ask you to purse your hobby of collecting books on tantra. Guru is Shiva . This is not just a ceremonial line just to say in prayers. It is the fundamental truth. Do you understand? How can you put the Shiva in some boundaries of few books? There are few defined books on Tantra and there can be many more. All sadhaks know that every word said by shiva is complete montra on which big books can be written. Now can you count the number of books? Sound of Shiva'a dumroo(musical instrument of Shiva) produces innumerable mantras? Can you catch all of them? Pushpadanta says in Shivmahimana Stotra -----if Goddess Saraswati uses whole surface of earth as paper, all trees as pen, and all oceans as ink....even then Gooddess can not define the qualities of Shiva. Now do you belive in this stotra or not........or here also you will apply your logic and reasoning which can never understand Shiva. Do you think whatever is said in this stotra is just for the sake of saying...if so then we do not know what kind sadhak you are. You just want to make sure that everything is defined as per your understanding. It can not happen in Tantra or in general human life. Shiva is Guru so whatever has been said in praise of shiva is true for Guru also. If someone thinks that he can just describe the sum total of his Guru's knowledge then he is just fooling himself. If sadhak just follows the orders of his Guru without any hesitation and without any hangover like" I am doing this for my Guru" will surely get all answers to dichotomies of his life. Provided Guru himself is knowledgeable like our Gurudev. Ultimately we come to point where a sadhak has to have faith in his Guru and his Guru's knowledge. That is why it is said that those people are lucky who get Samarth Guru. Now if Gurudev ask a sadhak to do a particular sadhna and if that sadhak is coming up with queries like, where will I find Rudrayamal, where will I find Kubjika tantra etc. etc. What will happen then? What will a sadhak get from his guru? Gurudev have always answered queries when they are genuine questions or doubts rising in the mind of sadhak. If someone is just asaking questions for the sake of it then Gurudev are going to waste their precious tapa shakti on these trivial matters.They have to help other sadhak who are engaged in sadhans or facing some other problems. If someone is asked to do a sadhna, whose mantra is available, sadhna material is available and even after that someone just keep on harping about some books or scriptures then just let him gapple himself with his hobby. Come back after satisfying your ego ride and surfing all books. After reading all this sadhak will not have one sadhna on which he has complete faith or even one mantra which can open open doors to higher levels of sadhnas. Usually people indulge in this kind of actvity just to show that they can do something "on their own". They get get kick from the fact thet they are "self made" in sadhnas. Hardworking is good quality but in this way it becomes a dogmatic ego ride. Sitting in the holy feet of Guru is prime requirement and surrendering one's all beliefs, past experiences with complete trust in Gurudev is the only way to progress. Surely Gurudev reveal many secret facts of sadhna without telling verbally, how a person grasps it depends on the faith of person in his Guru. So many important facts are revealed in mtyv magazine in very simple and easy going language. Most sadhak just read them without giving much weightage to that because have become accustomed to give importance to only those facts which are put in dramatic and startling manner. If someone goes through mtyv magazine and other books thoroughly he will find all insights to further progress in the field of sadhna. If someone wnats to know what appears on page no. so and so of Rudrayamal, Does Jayadrathyamal tantra suits my taste, then we do not know. Everything is possible in tantra. If sadhak persists with faith and hardwork all answers are gettable. Every activity of Maheshwar Shiva is tantra mudra, how many records will you make? First do honestly what Gurudev ask to do. So many books are published, so many sadhnas are published every month, what else you are looking for? If you do not get success with Gurudev provoding direct knowldge, we do not think that some other "secret" mantra from some "secret " source other than one's own Guru will provide succcess. Looking for other mantra to enhance one's knowledge is one thing and looking for some other mantra to achieve objectives of life other than provided by Gurudev is separate thing. Most of the time it is the lack of faith and concentration which leads person to look for mantra from other sources when many are easily available with Gurudev for the same person. Very very raely a person is seeking to enhance his knowledge, because Gurudev has left no aspect of life untouched to be made better by doing sadhna, whether material or spiritual. As such we do not see any reason for a sdahak to run here and there when all sadhnas are vailable with our Gurudev. We also tried to find answer for something which we didnt find in books available with us, we did not persist it with even if someone used rough words for our query because we were aware of abovementioned fact. Only those people will miss you in this group who have doubts about the sadhnas given by our gurudev in www.siddhashram.org Its your choice and their choice. You may ride your ego somewhere else if you like to. You may stay in this group.We did not ask you to leave. Every one has ego. If we have ego, so do you have. You are also not without ego. Due to Gurudev's blessings no one has been able to act as patron of this group, as Gurudev clip the wings of any such attempts by any sadhaks(not directly , but in their own way). Many sadhak expected to be praised by group members to feed on their ego, but all failed. Some of them created their own groups as if they are running the show on their own. Its their choice. They will have to pay for it at some point of time for being heavy headed about their knowledge. Whoever those sadhaks may be, even we are not above this rule we stray from the path. We are not worried at all because we have full faith in Gurudev, they will somehow make all of us realise that we have to look towards Him only in case of any difficulty. Seasonal grass and plants will grown every now and then....... and diasappear, eventually Gurudev's disciples will come back to the fold of Siddhashram sadhak parivar.( This line quoted from gurudev's message in one of the recent issues of mtyv magazine). Nikhileshawaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram , "jammer_it2000" <jammer_it2000 wrote: > > > You just committed a blunder openly saying saing Vishnuyamala is a > tantra of vaishnav . It is a Bhairavagama ,the name obviously says > what is it . Trying to understand the contents of a tantra by > looking at the name just says the person is not aware of tantra , > take a look at bhairav tantra does it have any matters of bhairav ? > Take a look at bhairavi tantra , what does it say about bhairavi - > nothing . Take a look at yogini tantra - is there something about > yogini ? Moreover that book has been lost much before the other > yamal's came to existence . If you do not like me in this group you > can point blank say ; but questioning me to say something could > result you listening un heard things which many ppl in this group > objected . Saying others that you do not know the science is just > spitting up - falls on your face - its just a way to defend that you > cant say . Man !! If you are so interested first go through the > details of the first 60 chapters of rudrayamala then lets talk of > the science . I am neither western nor muslim . But do not make a > feeling of shia and sunni in a group like this . Did you hear the > latest news in Iraq. > Gurudev Nikhil have himself said to learn from any source , did he > not . Rather you are tending to be of literotype trying to > understand tantra as word to word . The first word of tantra is > metaphor left n right , unless u get it , i am sorry . > Satyendra just pointed out Tara lies in head to realise the science > of that fact , you better wait for magizines to come . > Rather your ego is not letting you to hear something , did i speak a > single time who is my guru ? How do you know after all . Any way . > After reading your letters , i realised shia and sunni do have a > base for going to a civil war . You will never see any msg in the > group from myside. R u happy boy ? > > Good Luck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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