Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Cross posting from advaitin Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:28:46 -0500 "Harsha" <harsha-hkl This Moment Contains Infinity nanda chandran [vpcnk@h...] Monday, February 01, 1999 2:16 PM advaitin Freewill The Self is nothing but YOU, even in the common sense of the term. YOU are always present. It's YOUR mind or YOUR intellect or YOUR ego or YOUR sense, which works. What the above statement does not mean is that since the Self is beyond the mind and senses, it's beyond you. It only means that since YOU ARE IT, and the senses and the mind exist only in relation to YOU, YOU are beyond them. YOU presuppose them. The YOU is nothing but you even now. So don't try to use the mind and the intellect to know yourself. Just be. (It may sound simple , but just try it and you'll find how hard it is to be YOURSELF!) _______ Very beautifully put! But how can one "try" to just be? Trying indicates "doing". Being is always Prior to all doing. So Being must be found permeating "all doing and trying" and also independent of them. Spiritual effort itself is due to Grace. God Remembrance is due to Grace. The Absolute Surrender is due to Grace and it is this Moment of Truth that contains Infinity. It puts an end to all trying and doing. Here Being shines forth in all nakedness and dominates everywhere. Here, the Self Sees It Self as the Self as there is Nothing else to See but the Self. Love to all Harsha -- ----------------------------- Email: gomu Phone(Off): +91 44 4466448, 4466449 Phone(Res): +91 44 8270104 Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/gokulmuthu/ ----------------------------- It is better to wear out than to rust out. - Swami Vivekananda ----------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Thanks Gomu, I was reminded of Ramana's comment to a devotee concerned that his own individual efforts were weak: "M: Grace is the Self. I have already said, "If you remember Bhagavan, you are prompted to do so by the Self." Is not Grace already there? Is there a moment when Grace is not operating in you? Your remembrance is the forerunner of Grace. That is the response, that is the stimulus, that is the Self and that is Grace. There is no cause for anxiety. D: Can I engage in spiritual practice, even while remaining in samsara? M: Yes, certainly. One ought to do so." (from Talk; 251) Regards Miles ----------- > Spiritual effort itself is due to Grace. God Remembrance is due to > Grace. > The Absolute Surrender is due to Grace and it is this Moment of Truth > that > contains Infinity. It puts an end to all trying and doing. Here Being > shines > forth in all nakedness and dominates everywhere. Here, the Self Sees It > Self > as the Self as there is Nothing else to See but the Self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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