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>From the group feedback my personal conclusion was to

enjoy the natural pleasures(the Gita also certifies to

this by saying that if legitimate the supreme is also

present as a witness- nay embodies the very act )till

such time that it is transcended fully without

confusion.Once true realisation sets (maybe after many

lives or if this lucky then in this life) then this

question would not arise at all as by then it would be

insignificant.The fact that this question has arisen

indicates that quite some work needs to be done .

Thanks for all your responses . It is just that I am

presently a bit disturbed and felt that advise from

Ramana devotees would be a healing balm and would also

show the correct path.

I also require your observations in the following.

Though we believe in the Ramana way and believe in

transcending the body the fact that our life is as it

is because spiritually we may just be at the

beginning otherwise the almighty would have put us in

a more conducive situation .For example in our

workplace suppose we are honest(let us assume that

this is true) but we may find ourselves in an

atmosphere which is ridden with politics(though the

resultant of the concerned person's body mind

programming ) with the possibility of victimisation(as

we see it).We want to quit but we cannot because in

the body sense people are dependent are us.We are

advised that we should leave our jobs provided only we

have another but it is easier said than done because

quite often, though we once again continue to be

dissatisfied we never manage to gather the courage to

opt out.Doesn't spirituality have an answer to this

practical problem.How can we guide ourselves to such a

position where we temporarily accept the situation but

still plan and successfully at a later stage opt

out.(All of this knowing well that the incumbent's

mind is weak and most of its' life having taking

decisions only to go back due to family pressures,our

fears etc.)

 

regards,

Anand.

 

 

 

 

 

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Ananad wrote:

>For example in our

>workplace suppose we are honest(let us assume that

>this is true) but we may find ourselves in an

>atmosphere which is ridden with politics(though the

>resultant of the concerned person's body mind

>programming ) with the possibility of victimisation(as

>we see it).We want to quit but we cannot because in

>the body sense people are dependent are us.We are

>advised that we should leave our jobs provided only we

>have another but it is easier said than done because

>quite often, though we once again continue to be

>dissatisfied we never manage to gather the courage to

>opt out.Doesn't spirituality have an answer to this

>practical problem.How can we guide ourselves to such a

>position where we temporarily accept the situation but

>still plan and successfully at a later stage opt

>out.

 

When I presented my Roshi with a similar question, he told me to pray for

those at work who were giving me trouble. He said it always seems to work.

And it does, though not in the way we think.

 

Tom DiCorcia

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