Guest guest Posted April 18, 2001 Report Share Posted April 18, 2001 Dear Vicki, I do not know what precipitated this extreme stand that you are going to undertake.But I believe and surely the group members will agree that your daily contributions have kept this forum active.Let us bury our differences and not lose out on anybody.This reminds me of an incident regarding Ramana wherein 2 devotees with strong differences of opinion on meeting Ramana felt all differences melt away.So let us bury our differences.I wouldn't want to loose you and hopefully I speak for the entire group.My thoughts on this are that today I am lucky that I have a PC at home and can afford an internet connection.So I can communicate with you(the group).Tomorrow maybe I can manage the same in a cybercafe.But maybe one day I (for that matter anybody)may not be able to do even that.So let us not waste this precious moment in needless friction.Till such time as we are realised we have to act with the ego but let us try to enhance spiritually everyday.I hope the other group members will put in a word here in support of Vicki continuing.Vicki,I hope you shall reconsider. Regds, Anand. --- Vicki <viorica wrote: > Hello & Namaste All > > I wonder if Ramana would have liked something like > this. > > Today - as it has been announced - it is Chadwick > day ! > > But who cares ???!!! > > Everybody cares of his own self & SELF !!!?? > > Meditate , meditate & meditate on the most wonderful > question in the world > which is ..... WHO AM I ? > > and have hope ....that you will BE !!! > > Never mind others !! > there is no such thing as egoism in the SELF > because what it is > is > only > the SELF !! > > So > meditate on WHO AM I ? today > and don't think of Chadwick day , > because you lose precious time in your meditation > and you delay the BE ! > so , damn it Chadwick day!! -- because .. everybody > here has to BE and has no time > to answer or care for others as they have to > meditate and BE in that state !! > > DAMN IT THAT STATE IF IT WILL TURN ME INTO AN > EGOISTIC CREATURE > THAT CARES ONLY OF BEING THE SELF AND DON"T CARE THE > SUFFERING AROUND !! > > Didn't Ramana care ? > Didn't Ramana answer? > > DIDN"T RAMANA > ANSWER ?????????????? > > > I GIVE UP TO BE THE SELF DEAR RAMANAMAHARSHI GROUP > MEMBERS!! > IF I'LL BE AN EGOISTIC CREATURE CARING ONLY OF MY > > SELF , I GIVE UP !! > > Good Bye , RamanaMaharshi Group , > good bye , RamanaMagharshi owner, > be sure that Ramana wouldn't have liked not to care > of the people devotees !!! > > That is my last message to Ramana devotees who care > only of themselves > and their own and personal SELF !!! > > I have the great fortune in life to have Ramana on > my side and HE tells me that your silence is only > > EGOISM !!!!! > > Good bye , my friends and BE YOUR SELF !!! > > Viorica Weissman , (friends call me Vicki) > Itzhak Tunik 30/4 > Jerusalem 97795 > Israel > > I don't care about privacy , secrecy ,I don't care > of being disturbed by any > Ramana devotee and I can't but ANSWER any Ramana's > devotee email > it doesn't matter whether I AM or I AM not yet, > > your are welcome , > I love you and I love Ramana more than my own life, > but this RamanaMaharshi group is on its deathbed , > Namaste all, > Vicki [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 Dear Anand, I get wonderstruck everytime I think of Bhagavan. He certainly has a hold on me. Yet some kind of fear is still lurking in my heart. My fear is that my mother because of some domestic unwanted things is a worried woman. She is in no conscious way a reason for these unwanted things happening. I wish she should be able to come over all these worries and live a peaceful life. She is living in my native. I'm living far away in another city. This distance keeps me away from giving her the required comfort and thus I'm unable to see whether she is able to come over all these worries. Of course I do visit my mother at least once in three months. That is the only time we happen to see each other. Pls., tell me how I can ensure my mother's happiness and I can merge with the Self. Thank God, I'm able to meditate and try to reach the nearness of the Self, though not the Self itself. Is it because I still identify myself as my body and not the Self? Is it that once when one unites with the Self, one will have no fear, whatsoever, at all? Please enlighten me my friend. Subramanian. --- ANAND SUNDARAM <asundarama2000 wrote: > Dear Vicki, > I do not know what precipitated this extreme stand > that you are going to undertake.But I believe and > surely the group members will agree that your daily > contributions have kept this forum active.Let us > bury > our differences and not lose out on anybody.This > reminds me of an incident regarding Ramana wherein 2 > devotees with strong differences of opinion on > meeting Ramana felt all differences melt away.So let > us bury our differences.I wouldn't want to loose > you > and hopefully I speak for the entire group.My > thoughts > on this are that today I am lucky that I have a PC > at > home and can afford an internet connection.So I can > communicate with you(the group).Tomorrow maybe I can > manage the same in a cybercafe.But maybe one day I > (for that matter anybody)may not be able to do even > that.So let us not waste this precious moment in > needless friction.Till such time as we are realised > we > have to act with the ego but let us try to enhance > spiritually everyday.I hope the other group members > will put in a word here in support of Vicki > continuing.Vicki,I hope you shall reconsider. > Regds, > > Anand. > --- Vicki <viorica wrote: > > Hello & Namaste All > > > > I wonder if Ramana would have liked something like > > this. > > > > Today - as it has been announced - it is Chadwick > > day ! > > > > But who cares ???!!! > > > > Everybody cares of his own self & SELF !!!?? > > > > Meditate , meditate & meditate on the most > wonderful > > question in the world > > which is ..... WHO AM I ? > > > > and have hope ....that you will BE !!! > > > > Never mind others !! > > there is no such thing as egoism in the SELF > > because what it is > > is > > only > > the SELF !! > > > > So > > meditate on WHO AM I ? today > > and don't think of Chadwick day , > > because you lose precious time in your > meditation > > and you delay the BE ! > > so , damn it Chadwick day!! -- because .. > everybody > > here has to BE and has no time > > to answer or care for others as they have to > > meditate and BE in that state !! > > > > DAMN IT THAT STATE IF IT WILL TURN ME INTO AN > > EGOISTIC CREATURE > > THAT CARES ONLY OF BEING THE SELF AND DON"T CARE > THE > > SUFFERING AROUND !! > > > > Didn't Ramana care ? > > Didn't Ramana answer? > > > > DIDN"T RAMANA > > ANSWER ?????????????? > > > > > > I GIVE UP TO BE THE SELF DEAR RAMANAMAHARSHI GROUP > > MEMBERS!! > > IF I'LL BE AN EGOISTIC CREATURE CARING ONLY OF MY > > > > SELF , I GIVE UP !! > > > > Good Bye , RamanaMaharshi Group , > > good bye , RamanaMagharshi owner, > > be sure that Ramana wouldn't have liked not to > care > > of the people devotees !!! > > > > That is my last message to Ramana devotees who > care > > only of themselves > > and their own and personal SELF !!! > > > > I have the great fortune in life to have Ramana > on > > my side and HE tells me that your silence is only > > > > EGOISM !!!!! > > > > Good bye , my friends and BE YOUR SELF !!! > > > > Viorica Weissman , (friends call me Vicki) > > Itzhak Tunik 30/4 > > Jerusalem 97795 > > Israel > > > > I don't care about privacy , secrecy ,I don't > care > > of being disturbed by any > > Ramana devotee and I can't but ANSWER any Ramana's > > devotee email > > it doesn't matter whether I AM or I AM not yet, > > > > your are welcome , > > I love you and I love Ramana more than my own > life, > > but this RamanaMaharshi group is on its deathbed > , > > Namaste all, > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions./ > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: > RamanaMaharshi- > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/RamanaMaharshi > > Your use of is subject to > > > Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 You must consider yourself lucky that you a have a strong sense of attachment to Ramana.I would like to mention that ideally you should keep your mother near you as far as possible .If the same is not possible I feel you should arrange for her financial security by probably arranging some fixed amount to go to her every month as well as some policy which on maturing will give her a good some of money.This advice I am giving based on my own interaction with my mother for feelings of insecurity she was harbouring. As far as realisation is concerned I feel based on what little I know of Ramana's teachings that we should not put undo pressure on ourselves but just apply Ramana's teachings as best as we can.Ramana had said that one need not prostrate before him but just let one's mind not trouble him.In any situation where we become uneasy we should just let go,make the mind still and for a moment imagine say Ramanashramam,the meditation hall,the Samadhi shrine ,Arunachala hill,etc.This is what I myself do though my quest has just begun.I just time to time remember that when any disturbing thoughts come I have to refocus on Ramana as far as possible.Can he ever desert us? regds, Anand --- subramanian subramanian <subra_m wrote: > Dear Anand, > > I get wonderstruck everytime I think of Bhagavan. He > certainly has a hold on me. > > Yet some kind of fear is still lurking in my heart. > My > fear is that my mother because of some domestic > unwanted things is a worried woman. She is in no > conscious way a reason for these unwanted things > happening. I wish she should be able to come over > all > these worries and live a peaceful life. She is > living > in my native. I'm living far away in another city. > This distance keeps me away from giving her the > required comfort and thus I'm unable to see whether > she is able to come over all these worries. Of > course > I do visit my mother at least once in three months. > That is the only time we happen to see each other. > > Pls., tell me how I can ensure my mother's happiness > and I can merge with the Self. Thank God, I'm able > to > meditate and try to reach the nearness of the Self, > though not the Self itself. > > Is it because I still identify myself as my body and > not the Self? > > Is it that once when one unites with the Self, one > will have no fear, whatsoever, at all? > > Please enlighten me my friend. > > Subramanian. > --- ANAND SUNDARAM <asundarama2000 wrote: > > Dear Vicki, > > I do not know what precipitated this extreme stand > > that you are going to undertake.But I believe and > > surely the group members will agree that your > daily > > contributions have kept this forum active.Let us > > bury > > our differences and not lose out on anybody.This > > reminds me of an incident regarding Ramana wherein > 2 > > devotees with strong differences of opinion on > > meeting Ramana felt all differences melt away.So > let > > us bury our differences.I wouldn't want to loose > > you > > and hopefully I speak for the entire group.My > > thoughts > > on this are that today I am lucky that I have a PC > > at > > home and can afford an internet connection.So I > can > > communicate with you(the group).Tomorrow maybe I > can > > manage the same in a cybercafe.But maybe one day I > > (for that matter anybody)may not be able to do > even > > that.So let us not waste this precious moment in > > needless friction.Till such time as we are > realised > > we > > have to act with the ego but let us try to enhance > > spiritually everyday.I hope the other group > members > > will put in a word here in support of Vicki > > continuing.Vicki,I hope you shall reconsider. > > Regds, > > > > Anand. > > --- Vicki <viorica wrote: > > > Hello & Namaste All > > > > > > I wonder if Ramana would have liked something > like > > > this. > > > > > > Today - as it has been announced - it is > Chadwick > > > day ! > > > > > > But who cares ???!!! > > > > > > Everybody cares of his own self & SELF !!!?? > > > > > > Meditate , meditate & meditate on the most > > wonderful > > > question in the world > > > which is ..... WHO AM I ? > > > > > > and have hope ....that you will BE !!! > > > > > > Never mind others !! > > > there is no such thing as egoism in the SELF > > > because what it is > > > is > > > only > > > the SELF !! > > > > > > So > > > meditate on WHO AM I ? today > > > and don't think of Chadwick day , > > > because you lose precious time in your > > meditation > > > and you delay the BE ! > > > so , damn it Chadwick day!! -- because .. > > everybody > > > here has to BE and has no time > > > to answer or care for others as they have to > > > meditate and BE in that state !! > > > > > > DAMN IT THAT STATE IF IT WILL TURN ME INTO AN > > > EGOISTIC CREATURE > > > THAT CARES ONLY OF BEING THE SELF AND DON"T CARE > > THE > > > SUFFERING AROUND !! > > > > > > Didn't Ramana care ? > > > Didn't Ramana answer? > > > > > > DIDN"T RAMANA > > > ANSWER ?????????????? > > > > > > > > > I GIVE UP TO BE THE SELF DEAR RAMANAMAHARSHI > GROUP > > > MEMBERS!! > > > IF I'LL BE AN EGOISTIC CREATURE CARING ONLY OF > MY > > > > > > SELF , I GIVE UP !! > > > > > > Good Bye , RamanaMaharshi Group , > > > good bye , RamanaMagharshi owner, > > > be sure that Ramana wouldn't have liked not to > > care > > > of the people devotees !!! > > > > > > That is my last message to Ramana devotees who > > care > > > only of themselves > > > and their own and personal SELF !!! > > > > > > I have the great fortune in life to have > Ramana > > on > > > my side and HE tells me that your silence is > only > > > > > > EGOISM !!!!! > > > > > > Good bye , my friends and BE YOUR SELF !!! > > > > > > Viorica Weissman , (friends call me Vicki) > > > Itzhak Tunik 30/4 > > > Jerusalem 97795 > > > Israel > > > > > > I don't care about privacy , secrecy ,I don't > > care > > > of being disturbed by any > > > Ramana devotee and I can't but ANSWER any > Ramana's > > > devotee email > > > it doesn't matter whether I AM or I AM not yet, > > > > > > your are welcome , > > > I love you and I love Ramana more than my own > > life, > > > but this RamanaMaharshi group is on its > deathbed > > , > > > Namaste all, > > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Auctions - buy the things you want at great > > prices > > http://auctions./ > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > > > > === message truncated === Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2001 Report Share Posted April 22, 2001 Thank you for your kindness in replying to me. I do send some money everymonth to her. Subramanian. --- ANAND SUNDARAM <asundarama2000 wrote: > You must consider yourself lucky that you a have a > strong sense of attachment to Ramana.I would like to > mention that ideally you should keep your mother > near > you as far as possible .If the same is not possible > I > feel you should arrange for her financial security > by > probably arranging some fixed amount to go to her > every month as well as some policy which on maturing > will give her a good some of money.This advice I am > giving based on my own interaction with my mother > for > feelings of insecurity she was harbouring. As far > as > realisation is concerned I feel based on what > little > I know of Ramana's teachings that we should not put > undo pressure on ourselves but just apply Ramana's > teachings as best as we can.Ramana had said that one > need not prostrate before him but just let one's > mind > not trouble him.In any situation where we become > uneasy we should just let go,make the mind still and > for a moment imagine say Ramanashramam,the > meditation > hall,the Samadhi shrine ,Arunachala hill,etc.This is > what I myself do though my quest has just begun.I > just > time to time remember that when any disturbing > thoughts come I have to refocus on Ramana as far as > possible.Can he ever desert us? > > regds, > > Anand > --- subramanian subramanian <subra_m > wrote: > > Dear Anand, > > > > I get wonderstruck everytime I think of Bhagavan. > He > > certainly has a hold on me. > > > > Yet some kind of fear is still lurking in my > heart. > > My > > fear is that my mother because of some domestic > > unwanted things is a worried woman. She is in no > > conscious way a reason for these unwanted things > > happening. I wish she should be able to come over > > all > > these worries and live a peaceful life. She is > > living > > in my native. I'm living far away in another city. > > This distance keeps me away from giving her the > > required comfort and thus I'm unable to see > whether > > she is able to come over all these worries. Of > > course > > I do visit my mother at least once in three > months. > > That is the only time we happen to see each other. > > > > Pls., tell me how I can ensure my mother's > happiness > > and I can merge with the Self. Thank God, I'm able > > to > > meditate and try to reach the nearness of the > Self, > > though not the Self itself. > > > > Is it because I still identify myself as my body > and > > not the Self? > > > > Is it that once when one unites with the Self, one > > will have no fear, whatsoever, at all? > > > > Please enlighten me my friend. > > > > Subramanian. > > --- ANAND SUNDARAM <asundarama2000 > wrote: > > > Dear Vicki, > > > I do not know what precipitated this extreme > stand > > > that you are going to undertake.But I believe > and > > > surely the group members will agree that your > > daily > > > contributions have kept this forum active.Let us > > > bury > > > our differences and not lose out on anybody.This > > > reminds me of an incident regarding Ramana > wherein > > 2 > > > devotees with strong differences of opinion on > > > meeting Ramana felt all differences melt away.So > > let > > > us bury our differences.I wouldn't want to > loose > > > you > > > and hopefully I speak for the entire group.My > > > thoughts > > > on this are that today I am lucky that I have a > PC > > > at > > > home and can afford an internet connection.So I > > can > > > communicate with you(the group).Tomorrow maybe I > > can > > > manage the same in a cybercafe.But maybe one day > I > > > (for that matter anybody)may not be able to do > > even > > > that.So let us not waste this precious moment in > > > needless friction.Till such time as we are > > realised > > > we > > > have to act with the ego but let us try to > enhance > > > spiritually everyday.I hope the other group > > members > > > will put in a word here in support of Vicki > > > continuing.Vicki,I hope you shall reconsider. > > > Regds, > > > > > > Anand. > > > --- Vicki <viorica wrote: > > > > Hello & Namaste All > > > > > > > > I wonder if Ramana would have liked something > > like > > > > this. > > > > > > > > Today - as it has been announced - it is > > Chadwick > > > > day ! > > > > > > > > But who cares ???!!! > > > > > > > > Everybody cares of his own self & SELF !!!?? > > > > > > > > Meditate , meditate & meditate on the most > > > wonderful > > > > question in the world > > > > which is ..... WHO AM I ? > > > > > > > > and have hope ....that you will BE !!! > > > > > > > > Never mind others !! > > > > there is no such thing as egoism in the SELF > > > > because what it is > > > > is > > > > only > > > > the SELF !! > > > > > > > > So > > > > meditate on WHO AM I ? today > > > > and don't think of Chadwick day , > > > > because you lose precious time in your > > > meditation > > > > and you delay the BE ! > > > > so , damn it Chadwick day!! -- because .. > > > everybody > > > > here has to BE and has no time > > > > to answer or care for others as they have to > > > > meditate and BE in that state !! > > > > > > > > DAMN IT THAT STATE IF IT WILL TURN ME INTO AN > > > > EGOISTIC CREATURE > > > > THAT CARES ONLY OF BEING THE SELF AND DON"T > CARE > > > THE > > > > SUFFERING AROUND !! > > > > > > > > Didn't Ramana care ? > > > > Didn't Ramana answer? > > > > > > > > DIDN"T RAMANA > > > > ANSWER ?????????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > I GIVE UP TO BE THE SELF DEAR RAMANAMAHARSHI > > GROUP > > > > MEMBERS!! > > > > IF I'LL BE AN EGOISTIC CREATURE CARING ONLY OF > > MY > > > > > > > > SELF , I GIVE UP !! > > > > > > > > Good Bye , RamanaMaharshi Group , > > > > good bye , RamanaMagharshi owner, > > > > be sure that Ramana wouldn't have liked not to > > > care > > > > of the people devotees !!! > > > > > > > > That is my last message to Ramana devotees who > > > care > > > > only of themselves > === message truncated === Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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