Guest guest Posted May 18, 2001 Report Share Posted May 18, 2001 That is what my life turned into ,everything I speak about , everybody I speak with, everywhere I pass ,I leave behind Ramana's name,or words , or books. Excellent! .. How I wish I could do at least 50% of that! Ramana Sarma > ---------- > > RamanaMaharshi[sMTP:RamanaMaharshi] > Reply RamanaMaharshi > 18 May 2001 09:25 > RamanaMaharshi > [RamanaMaharshi] Digest Number 212 > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi- > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/RamanaMaharshi > ------ > > There are 7 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. today's revelation > "vicki" <viorica > 2. How did the ego arise ? > "vicki" <viorica > 3. absence of thought > "vicki" <viorica > 4. Fwd: No getting anywhere > janmasiddhi > 5. Echammal > "vicki" <viorica > 6. Maya > Srinivasan Venkataraman <srini_vraman > 7. Re: Mind > "vicki" <viorica > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Thu, 17 May 2001 08:57:50 -0000 > "vicki" <viorica > today's revelation > > Namaste All, > > I want to tell you something about my today's feelings. > > *** > > Yesterday , a friend of mine called me to tell me that she found a > book I wanted to read and she had thought she didn't have that > book ; So I went to see her and take it; > I also gave her a book which I asked her to give as a present from > me to another friend of her who reads better in Hebrew than in > English - it was Bhagavan's translation in Hebrew of "Who Am I?" > and "Maharshi's Gospel". > > That is what my life turned into ,everything I speak about , > everybody I speak with, everywhere I pass ,I leave behind Ramana's > name,or words , or books. > > So we began to talk about Ramana ; > > This friend of mine played an importand part in my life on my path > to discovering Ramana ,I might say - the hand of destiny ; > My first book about Ramana's Teachings, that I have read twice by now > and I feel I would read it again - > The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi,Arthur Osborne - > so this first book for me was my present for her as an expression of > my gratitude for what she has done for me . I am praying for her to > love the teachings the way I do, or even more. > [she put in my hands the Meditation in Action, Chogyam Trungpa, > the first book on meditation that I have ever read and an important > stepping stone on my way to Ramana.] > > So we began to talk about Ramana , Self, and other ... > > While we were talking, simultaneously I had an internal dialog , > I was thinking "Well,the time came to start reading the Bhagavad Gita. > But it seems to me that everything I read it's something that I know > already.Will the same happen to me with Bhagavad Gita ? > I feel I am at home with all the Hindu scriptures.", > Than I felt like joking ,"the only problem is that I haven't read > them yet!" > > This morning , that thought has come again in my mind and made me > smile. The same "I am at home with these scriptures , > only that I haven't read them yet." crossed my mind. > > I laughed by myself , and suddenly I've realized how true this is. > > vicki ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Thu, 17 May 2001 17:02:03 -0000 > "vicki" <viorica > How did the ego arise ? > > D: How did the ego arise ? > > [Here is a question that gives rise to endless philosophising, > but Bhagavan , holding rigorously to the truth of non-duality, > refused to admit its existence . Arthur Osborne's comment] > > B: There is no ego. If there were you would have to admit > of two selves in you . Therefore there is no ignorance . > If you enquire into the Self , ignorance , which is already > nonexistent, will be found not to exist and you will say that > it has fled. > > ```````````````````````````````````````` > The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi , > Arthur Osborne > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Thu, 17 May 2001 17:08:44 -0000 > "vicki" <viorica > absence of thought > > [sometimes it seemed to the listener that absence of thought must > mean a mere blank , and therefore Bhagavan specifically > guarded against this. Arthur Osborne] > > Bhagavan: > "Absence of thought does not mean a blank. > There must be someone to be aware of that blank. > Knowledge and ignorance pertain only to the mind > and are in duality , but the Self is beyond them both. > It is pure Light. There is no need for one Self to see another. > There are not two selves. What is not the Self is mere non-self > and cannot see the Self. The Self has no sight or hearing; > it lies beyond them , all alone , as pure Consciousness." ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Thu, 17 May 2001 18:36:49 -0000 > janmasiddhi > Fwd: No getting anywhere > > Janmasiddha (AT) Groups (DOT) com, janmasiddhi wrote: > > Whether one dies in old age or in childhood, length of life is the > same. Nothing is born without us and we are never born without > everything. All is one. The idea of coming from non-being to being is > fiction. How about from being to being? > 3~(' > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Fri, 18 May 2001 05:33:04 +0300 > "vicki" <viorica > Echammal > > Echammal came to Sri Bhagavan in a distressed condition, > having lost in quick succession her husband > and her two children. Climbing the hill , she stood in silence > before him , not telling her grief. A whole hour she stood, > no words spoken, and then she turned and went down > the hillside to the town , her steps light , the burden > of her burden lifted . Such was her deep devotion that for > the rest of her life she never took her food without serving > Sri Bhagavan first , and her house was a veritable haven > for his devotees. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > A Pictorial Biography > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Thu, 17 May 2001 21:23:04 -0700 (PDT) > Srinivasan Venkataraman <srini_vraman > Maya > > Bose: When the Upanishads say that all is Brahman, how > can we say, like Shankara, that this world is mithya > or illusory? > > Bhagavan: Shankara also said that this world is > Brahman or the Self. What he objected to is one's > imagining that the Self is limited by the names and > forms that constitute the world. He only said that the > world does not exist apart from Brahman. Brahman or > the Self is like the screen and the world is like the > pictures on it. You can see the pictures only so long > as there is a screen. But when the seer himself > becomes the screen only the Self remains. Kaivalya > Navaneetha has asked and answered six questions about > maya. They are instructive. > > The first question is: What is maya? And the answer > is: It is anirvachaniya or indescribable. > > The second question is: To whom does it come? And the > answer is: To the mind or ego who feels that he is a > separate entity, who thinks: 'I do this' or 'this is > mine'. > > The third question is: Where does it come from and how > did it originate? > > And the answer is: Nobody can say. > > The fourth question is: How did it arise? And the > answer is: Through non-vichara, through failure to > ask: Who am I? > > The fifth question is: If the Self and Maya both > exists does not this invalidate the theory of Advaita? > The answer is: It need not, since maya is dependent on > the Self as the picture is on the screen. The picture > is not real in the sense that the screen is real. > > The sixth question is: If the Self and maya are one, > could it not be argued that the Self is the nature of > maya, that is illusory? And the answer is: No; the > Self can be capable of producing illusion without > being illusory. A conjuror may create for our > entertainment the illusion of people, animals and > things, and we see all of them as clearly as we see > him; but after the performance he alone remains and > all the visions he had created have disappeared. He is > not a part of the illusion but is real and solid. > > From Day by Day with Bhagavan > > > > > Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions./ > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Fri, 18 May 2001 08:07:22 +0300 > "vicki" <viorica > Re: Mind > > Namaste Srinivasan , > > I've been sending your posting on "mind" to group; > I'd like to ask you if you agree that I should forward your postings > to Harsha group as they come , or maybe you would like to do that; > I don't know if you are or not a member of , > maybe you would like to be and send by yourself your postings > to that group too. > I d to and I post there everything I post to > RamanaMaharshi group too; > Please let me know what your opinion is on sending your postings > to , > > vicki > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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