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Prometheans coming together to breed a new human species with a

higher intellect and love of one's people. A communion of intellect

and beauty for the simple reason that it can be done. This creation

is what gives us purpose and meaning. No other justification is

required for this program to advance our Promethean species.

 

 

Principles and Goals

 

I. We are both a nation and a religion. Whether we will be a

diasporic nation, a nation with boundaries, or both, will depend on

circumstances currently beyond our control. But in the future, a

homeland must be sought for by any means available.

 

II. Our aim is to create a genetically enhanced race that will

eventually become a new, superior species. In the short-term, this

will be achieved via eugenics and genetic engineering.

 

III. There are many reasons why we want to achieve this:

 

a.) Technology has outpaced the human brain in modernization -- we

must now play catchup using eugenics and do it alone if necessary.

b.) The world is caught in a dysgenic trend from which we want to be

freed.

c.) This is a way of maximizing our viability -- the survival and

probability of survival of our genes. A more intelligent species will

be more fit to adapt to new environments and to face new threats and

obstacles.

d.) We see this as the noble thing to do, the idealization of

humanity and beyond-humanity. We seek to bring ourselves closer to

Godhood. Through eugenics and other forms of improvement, we will

bring higher civilization, higher creativity, higher consciousness to

the Universe. What Nature used to do via natural selection, we will

now take into our own hands with directed and deliberate evolution.

 

 

IV. We must not concern ourselves with others that are caught in

the dysgenic cycle. We must only be concerned with the success of

other competing eugenics' programs that will pose a threat to our own

new species, for speciation will not travel along a single vector

when humans compete using the new technologies.

 

V. Any eugenics' program has equal validity to use the state's

coercive power to improve human genetic capital. Genetic capital is

now more valuable than land and/or territory aside from some scarce

resources. DNA or genetic capital is the most valuable commodity in

the universe.

 

VI. Behavioral tolerance should flow naturally out of a highly

intelligent, eugenic society that is ethically cohesive. It must be

accepting of many different preferences or freedoms of personal

conduct that might offend, but does no harm to the group. That is,

elimination of consensual crimes is a given in a society that through

intelligence and understanding of human behavior in others can

tolerate deviants who do no harm.

 

VII. We are not a cult or sect. Our principles are firmly grounded

in empiricism and neo-Darwinism. Our purpose is merely to do what we

believe is noble, using science to create a new human species because

that is what we want to do. No irrational dogma is required or

desired. The eugenic state is a sovereign state, with or without

borders.

 

VIII. As creators we do not submit to dogma or blind faith, but

only to empirical knowledge. Likewise, we have no need of holy men,

only wise men. As individuals, we only submit to the goals of the

project, and to nothing else. And in allowing us to be part of the

creation, the group gives back to the individual a sense of purpose

and fulfillment. Eugenic is that which makes us come closer to our

image of god in a technological and ever expanding universe. No

limits, and no regrets.

 

Rules and Strategies

 

I. The danger of curing the effects of genetic disease through

postnatal intervention, and the accumulation of bad genes, is

equivalent to allowing toxins to build up in the environment and

curing them with vitamin supplements. Resources must not be wasted on

curing disease when it is more cost effective to merely eliminate the

disease from the genetic capital of the eugenic nation. We can easily

live with numerous minor genetic flaws, but it should never be policy

to correct obviously adverse genetic diseases when they can be

detected and eliminated from the gene pool, even though that is not

our primary goal.

 

II. Eventually, the goal of a eugenically equalized society is to

displace representative democracy with direct democracy. Only in this

way can the corruption inherent in democracy be eliminated. This

direct democracy requires that all members of society be highly

intelligent and capable of understanding the issues as well as our

elite representatives do now.

 

III. Neither any single woman nor man must be forced to procreate

or to spend time raising children. The genes of the group flow in all

of us, and resource acquisition is as important as having children to

the success of the group. That is, it is each person's choice where

to contribute. It may be more beneficial to hire breeders for having

the children rather than force women who prefer an intellectual life

over being pregnant. And the same with raising children. Group goals

are met by everyone becoming a specialist in what they do best, as

long as it contributes in some way.

 

IV. Eugenicists can be classified as breeders, enforcers, or

nurturers. That is, there will be those who want to participate but

not necessarily pass on their own genes for various reasons. Everyone

will be productive and further the cause, but not everyone needs to

do it in the same manner. Specialization is efficiency. And our genes

run throughout the tribe, not in individual families, though family

cohesiveness will not be frowned upon as a natural instinct.

 

V. Racial purity is not a valid concept for a eugenicist. Since we

are breeding and genetically splicing our way into a new species,

racial components are ever changing. The only valid concept is one of

group cohesiveness. We want to be with people who are like us, that

is similarity in phenotype bonds the group together, not racial

purity.

 

VI. Allegiance and patriotism to the group takes precedence before

attachment to one's religion or patriotism to the country where one

just happens to reside. Going to war for the state because of shared

loyalties is dysgenic. Only patriotism to the eugenic state requires

your sacrifice and allegiance.

 

VII. The patterns of sexual attractiveness must be understood and

resisted. For example, too many males will seek an attractive woman

over an intelligent one. This evolutionary desire must be evaluated

and counteracted. But means are available. Sex and reproduction are

no longer linked, and communities that extend beyond the simple

family unit can live with this anomaly. It should be recognized and

tolerated. The same goes for not requiring women to bear children.

Bearing children and parenthood need not be linked, bonding to

children in humans occurs some time AFTER birth, unlike other

species.

 

VIII. Potential children are in abundant supply and the world is

overpopulated with people without a future. Every child brought into

this world should be of the finest intellect possible, and free of

genetic diseases or abnormalities. Every generation needs to be an

incremental step in the evolution to a new species. The only traits

to be altered during the first genesis shall be an increase in

overall intelligence, typical intellectual engagement(TIE), and

patriotism. Other behavioral traits must only be altered when there

is no longer a danger from competitive species and our knowledge of

our species has progressed to a state of understanding that makes

behavioral traits modification beyond question. Until then, we must

retain the full spectrum of human variation for the sake of higher

adaptability and survivability.

 

IX. Our genders are equal because no more division of labor is

required. The mind is the only machine that is really important.

Breeding is no longer the result of sex. Breeding will be directed by

intelligent purposefulness for genetically enhanced children.

 

X. Warfare, that ever present component that drove group evolution

to reach Homo Sapiens will continue. Eugenicists will be attacked and

we will always be outnumbered. Brains must be used in place of

soldiers if we are to hold off attacks and detractors. But war it

shall be, even if only intellectual warfare, until we can overcome

our own human nature for hostility towards the other—and the other is

no longer a threat. Join us at http://www.prometheism.net/

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Is this a joke?

What does this have to do with self- realization?

Marion

 

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RamanaMaharshi <RamanaMaharshi>

Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:57 PM

[RamanaMaharshi] PROMETHEISM

 

 

Prometheans coming together to breed a new human species with a

higher intellect and love of one's people. A communion of intellect

and beauty for the simple reason that it can be done. This creation

is what gives us purpose and meaning. No other justification is

required for this program to advance our Promethean species.

 

 

Principles and Goals

 

I. We are both a nation and a religion. Whether we will be a

diasporic nation, a nation with boundaries, or both, will depend on

circumstances currently beyond our control. But in the future, a

homeland must be sought for by any means available.

 

II. Our aim is to create a genetically enhanced race that will

eventually become a new, superior species. In the short-term, this

will be achieved via eugenics and genetic engineering.

 

III. There are many reasons why we want to achieve this:

 

a.) Technology has outpaced the human brain in modernization -- we

must now play catchup using eugenics and do it alone if necessary.

b.) The world is caught in a dysgenic trend from which we want to be

freed.

c.) This is a way of maximizing our viability -- the survival and

probability of survival of our genes. A more intelligent species will

be more fit to adapt to new environments and to face new threats and

obstacles.

d.) We see this as the noble thing to do, the idealization of

humanity and beyond-humanity. We seek to bring ourselves closer to

Godhood. Through eugenics and other forms of improvement, we will

bring higher civilization, higher creativity, higher consciousness to

the Universe. What Nature used to do via natural selection, we will

now take into our own hands with directed and deliberate evolution.

 

 

IV. We must not concern ourselves with others that are caught in

the dysgenic cycle. We must only be concerned with the success of

other competing eugenics' programs that will pose a threat to our own

new species, for speciation will not travel along a single vector

when humans compete using the new technologies.

 

V. Any eugenics' program has equal validity to use the state's

coercive power to improve human genetic capital. Genetic capital is

now more valuable than land and/or territory aside from some scarce

resources. DNA or genetic capital is the most valuable commodity in

the universe.

 

VI. Behavioral tolerance should flow naturally out of a highly

intelligent, eugenic society that is ethically cohesive. It must be

accepting of many different preferences or freedoms of personal

conduct that might offend, but does no harm to the group. That is,

elimination of consensual crimes is a given in a society that through

intelligence and understanding of human behavior in others can

tolerate deviants who do no harm.

 

VII. We are not a cult or sect. Our principles are firmly grounded

in empiricism and neo-Darwinism. Our purpose is merely to do what we

believe is noble, using science to create a new human species because

that is what we want to do. No irrational dogma is required or

desired. The eugenic state is a sovereign state, with or without

borders.

 

VIII. As creators we do not submit to dogma or blind faith, but

only to empirical knowledge. Likewise, we have no need of holy men,

only wise men. As individuals, we only submit to the goals of the

project, and to nothing else. And in allowing us to be part of the

creation, the group gives back to the individual a sense of purpose

and fulfillment. Eugenic is that which makes us come closer to our

image of god in a technological and ever expanding universe. No

limits, and no regrets.

 

Rules and Strategies

 

I. The danger of curing the effects of genetic disease through

postnatal intervention, and the accumulation of bad genes, is

equivalent to allowing toxins to build up in the environment and

curing them with vitamin supplements. Resources must not be wasted on

curing disease when it is more cost effective to merely eliminate the

disease from the genetic capital of the eugenic nation. We can easily

live with numerous minor genetic flaws, but it should never be policy

to correct obviously adverse genetic diseases when they can be

detected and eliminated from the gene pool, even though that is not

our primary goal.

 

II. Eventually, the goal of a eugenically equalized society is to

displace representative democracy with direct democracy. Only in this

way can the corruption inherent in democracy be eliminated. This

direct democracy requires that all members of society be highly

intelligent and capable of understanding the issues as well as our

elite representatives do now.

 

III. Neither any single woman nor man must be forced to procreate

or to spend time raising children. The genes of the group flow in all

of us, and resource acquisition is as important as having children to

the success of the group. That is, it is each person's choice where

to contribute. It may be more beneficial to hire breeders for having

the children rather than force women who prefer an intellectual life

over being pregnant. And the same with raising children. Group goals

are met by everyone becoming a specialist in what they do best, as

long as it contributes in some way.

 

IV. Eugenicists can be classified as breeders, enforcers, or

nurturers. That is, there will be those who want to participate but

not necessarily pass on their own genes for various reasons. Everyone

will be productive and further the cause, but not everyone needs to

do it in the same manner. Specialization is efficiency. And our genes

run throughout the tribe, not in individual families, though family

cohesiveness will not be frowned upon as a natural instinct.

 

V. Racial purity is not a valid concept for a eugenicist. Since we

are breeding and genetically splicing our way into a new species,

racial components are ever changing. The only valid concept is one of

group cohesiveness. We want to be with people who are like us, that

is similarity in phenotype bonds the group together, not racial

purity.

 

VI. Allegiance and patriotism to the group takes precedence before

attachment to one's religion or patriotism to the country where one

just happens to reside. Going to war for the state because of shared

loyalties is dysgenic. Only patriotism to the eugenic state requires

your sacrifice and allegiance.

 

VII. The patterns of sexual attractiveness must be understood and

resisted. For example, too many males will seek an attractive woman

over an intelligent one. This evolutionary desire must be evaluated

and counteracted. But means are available. Sex and reproduction are

no longer linked, and communities that extend beyond the simple

family unit can live with this anomaly. It should be recognized and

tolerated. The same goes for not requiring women to bear children.

Bearing children and parenthood need not be linked, bonding to

children in humans occurs some time AFTER birth, unlike other

species.

 

VIII. Potential children are in abundant supply and the world is

overpopulated with people without a future. Every child brought into

this world should be of the finest intellect possible, and free of

genetic diseases or abnormalities. Every generation needs to be an

incremental step in the evolution to a new species. The only traits

to be altered during the first genesis shall be an increase in

overall intelligence, typical intellectual engagement(TIE), and

patriotism. Other behavioral traits must only be altered when there

is no longer a danger from competitive species and our knowledge of

our species has progressed to a state of understanding that makes

behavioral traits modification beyond question. Until then, we must

retain the full spectrum of human variation for the sake of higher

adaptability and survivability.

 

IX. Our genders are equal because no more division of labor is

required. The mind is the only machine that is really important.

Breeding is no longer the result of sex. Breeding will be directed by

intelligent purposefulness for genetically enhanced children.

 

X. Warfare, that ever present component that drove group evolution

to reach Homo Sapiens will continue. Eugenicists will be attacked and

we will always be outnumbered. Brains must be used in place of

soldiers if we are to hold off attacks and detractors. But war it

shall be, even if only intellectual warfare, until we can overcome

our own human nature for hostility towards the other—and the other is

no longer a threat. Join us at http://www.prometheism.net/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Marion:

 

It might not be a joke, but I sure had a great laugh.

How rediculous it seems to me.

 

Love,

Alton

 

 

--- Marion Hanvey <maz wrote:

> Is this a joke?

> What does this have to do with self- realization?

> Marion

>

> singularity96

> <singularity96

> RamanaMaharshi

> <RamanaMaharshi>

> Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:57 PM

> [RamanaMaharshi] PROMETHEISM

>

>

> Prometheans coming together to breed a new human

> species with a

> higher intellect and love of one's people. A

> communion of intellect

> and beauty for the simple reason that it can be

> done. This creation

> is what gives us purpose and meaning. No other

> justification is

> required for this program to advance our Promethean

> species.

>

>

> Principles and Goals

>

> I. We are both a nation and a religion. Whether

> we will be a

> diasporic nation, a nation with boundaries, or both,

> will depend on

> circumstances currently beyond our control. But in

> the future, a

> homeland must be sought for by any means available.

>

> II. Our aim is to create a genetically enhanced race

> that will

> eventually become a new, superior species. In the

> short-term, this

> will be achieved via eugenics and genetic

> engineering.

>

> III. There are many reasons why we want to

> achieve this:

>

> a.) Technology has outpaced the human brain in

> modernization -- we

> must now play catchup using eugenics and do it alone

> if necessary.

> b.) The world is caught in a dysgenic trend from

> which we want to be

> freed.

> c.) This is a way of maximizing our viability -- the

> survival and

> probability of survival of our genes. A more

> intelligent species will

> be more fit to adapt to new environments and to face

> new threats and

> obstacles.

> d.) We see this as the noble thing to do, the

> idealization of

> humanity and beyond-humanity. We seek to bring

> ourselves closer to

> Godhood. Through eugenics and other forms of

> improvement, we will

> bring higher civilization, higher creativity, higher

> consciousness to

> the Universe. What Nature used to do via natural

> selection, we will

> now take into our own hands with directed and

> deliberate evolution.

>

>

> IV. We must not concern ourselves with others that

> are caught in

> the dysgenic cycle. We must only be concerned with

> the success of

> other competing eugenics' programs that will pose a

> threat to our own

> new species, for speciation will not travel along a

> single vector

> when humans compete using the new technologies.

>

> V. Any eugenics' program has equal validity to use

> the state's

> coercive power to improve human genetic capital.

> Genetic capital is

> now more valuable than land and/or territory aside

> from some scarce

> resources. DNA or genetic capital is the most

> valuable commodity in

> the universe.

>

> VI. Behavioral tolerance should flow naturally out

> of a highly

> intelligent, eugenic society that is ethically

> cohesive. It must be

> accepting of many different preferences or freedoms

> of personal

> conduct that might offend, but does no harm to the

> group. That is,

> elimination of consensual crimes is a given in a

> society that through

> intelligence and understanding of human behavior in

> others can

> tolerate deviants who do no harm.

>

> VII. We are not a cult or sect. Our principles are

> firmly grounded

> in empiricism and neo-Darwinism. Our purpose is

> merely to do what we

> believe is noble, using science to create a new

> human species because

> that is what we want to do. No irrational dogma is

> required or

> desired. The eugenic state is a sovereign state,

> with or without

> borders.

>

> VIII. As creators we do not submit to dogma or

> blind faith, but

> only to empirical knowledge. Likewise, we have no

> need of holy men,

> only wise men. As individuals, we only submit to the

> goals of the

> project, and to nothing else. And in allowing us to

> be part of the

> creation, the group gives back to the individual a

> sense of purpose

> and fulfillment. Eugenic is that which makes us come

> closer to our

> image of god in a technological and ever expanding

> universe. No

> limits, and no regrets.

>

> Rules and Strategies

>

> I. The danger of curing the effects of genetic

> disease through

> postnatal intervention, and the accumulation of bad

> genes, is

> equivalent to allowing toxins to build up in the

> environment and

> curing them with vitamin supplements. Resources must

> not be wasted on

> curing disease when it is more cost effective to

> merely eliminate the

> disease from the genetic capital of the eugenic

> nation. We can easily

> live with numerous minor genetic flaws, but it

> should never be policy

> to correct obviously adverse genetic diseases when

> they can be

> detected and eliminated from the gene pool, even

> though that is not

> our primary goal.

>

> II. Eventually, the goal of a eugenically

> equalized society is to

> displace representative democracy with direct

> democracy. Only in this

> way can the corruption inherent in democracy be

> eliminated. This

> direct democracy requires that all members of

> society be highly

> intelligent and capable of understanding the issues

> as well as our

> elite representatives do now.

>

> III. Neither any single woman nor man must be

> forced to procreate

> or to spend time raising children. The genes of the

> group flow in all

> of us, and resource acquisition is as important as

> having children to

> the success of the group. That is, it is each

> person's choice where

> to contribute. It may be more beneficial to hire

> breeders for having

> the children rather than force women who prefer an

> intellectual life

> over being pregnant. And the same with raising

> children. Group goals

> are met by everyone becoming a specialist in what

> they do best, as

> long as it contributes in some way.

>

> IV. Eugenicists can be classified as breeders,

> enforcers, or

> nurturers. That is, there will be those who want to

> participate but

> not necessarily pass on their own genes for various

> reasons. Everyone

> will be productive and further the cause, but not

> everyone needs to

> do it in the same manner. Specialization is

> efficiency. And our genes

> run throughout the tribe, not in individual

> families, though family

> cohesiveness will not be frowned upon as a natural

> instinct.

>

>

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