Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 Prometheans coming together to breed a new human species with a higher intellect and love of one's people. A communion of intellect and beauty for the simple reason that it can be done. This creation is what gives us purpose and meaning. No other justification is required for this program to advance our Promethean species. Principles and Goals I. We are both a nation and a religion. Whether we will be a diasporic nation, a nation with boundaries, or both, will depend on circumstances currently beyond our control. But in the future, a homeland must be sought for by any means available. II. Our aim is to create a genetically enhanced race that will eventually become a new, superior species. In the short-term, this will be achieved via eugenics and genetic engineering. III. There are many reasons why we want to achieve this: a.) Technology has outpaced the human brain in modernization -- we must now play catchup using eugenics and do it alone if necessary. b.) The world is caught in a dysgenic trend from which we want to be freed. c.) This is a way of maximizing our viability -- the survival and probability of survival of our genes. A more intelligent species will be more fit to adapt to new environments and to face new threats and obstacles. d.) We see this as the noble thing to do, the idealization of humanity and beyond-humanity. We seek to bring ourselves closer to Godhood. Through eugenics and other forms of improvement, we will bring higher civilization, higher creativity, higher consciousness to the Universe. What Nature used to do via natural selection, we will now take into our own hands with directed and deliberate evolution. IV. We must not concern ourselves with others that are caught in the dysgenic cycle. We must only be concerned with the success of other competing eugenics' programs that will pose a threat to our own new species, for speciation will not travel along a single vector when humans compete using the new technologies. V. Any eugenics' program has equal validity to use the state's coercive power to improve human genetic capital. Genetic capital is now more valuable than land and/or territory aside from some scarce resources. DNA or genetic capital is the most valuable commodity in the universe. VI. Behavioral tolerance should flow naturally out of a highly intelligent, eugenic society that is ethically cohesive. It must be accepting of many different preferences or freedoms of personal conduct that might offend, but does no harm to the group. That is, elimination of consensual crimes is a given in a society that through intelligence and understanding of human behavior in others can tolerate deviants who do no harm. VII. We are not a cult or sect. Our principles are firmly grounded in empiricism and neo-Darwinism. Our purpose is merely to do what we believe is noble, using science to create a new human species because that is what we want to do. No irrational dogma is required or desired. The eugenic state is a sovereign state, with or without borders. VIII. As creators we do not submit to dogma or blind faith, but only to empirical knowledge. Likewise, we have no need of holy men, only wise men. As individuals, we only submit to the goals of the project, and to nothing else. And in allowing us to be part of the creation, the group gives back to the individual a sense of purpose and fulfillment. Eugenic is that which makes us come closer to our image of god in a technological and ever expanding universe. No limits, and no regrets. Rules and Strategies I. The danger of curing the effects of genetic disease through postnatal intervention, and the accumulation of bad genes, is equivalent to allowing toxins to build up in the environment and curing them with vitamin supplements. Resources must not be wasted on curing disease when it is more cost effective to merely eliminate the disease from the genetic capital of the eugenic nation. We can easily live with numerous minor genetic flaws, but it should never be policy to correct obviously adverse genetic diseases when they can be detected and eliminated from the gene pool, even though that is not our primary goal. II. Eventually, the goal of a eugenically equalized society is to displace representative democracy with direct democracy. Only in this way can the corruption inherent in democracy be eliminated. This direct democracy requires that all members of society be highly intelligent and capable of understanding the issues as well as our elite representatives do now. III. Neither any single woman nor man must be forced to procreate or to spend time raising children. The genes of the group flow in all of us, and resource acquisition is as important as having children to the success of the group. That is, it is each person's choice where to contribute. It may be more beneficial to hire breeders for having the children rather than force women who prefer an intellectual life over being pregnant. And the same with raising children. Group goals are met by everyone becoming a specialist in what they do best, as long as it contributes in some way. IV. Eugenicists can be classified as breeders, enforcers, or nurturers. That is, there will be those who want to participate but not necessarily pass on their own genes for various reasons. Everyone will be productive and further the cause, but not everyone needs to do it in the same manner. Specialization is efficiency. And our genes run throughout the tribe, not in individual families, though family cohesiveness will not be frowned upon as a natural instinct. V. Racial purity is not a valid concept for a eugenicist. Since we are breeding and genetically splicing our way into a new species, racial components are ever changing. The only valid concept is one of group cohesiveness. We want to be with people who are like us, that is similarity in phenotype bonds the group together, not racial purity. VI. Allegiance and patriotism to the group takes precedence before attachment to one's religion or patriotism to the country where one just happens to reside. Going to war for the state because of shared loyalties is dysgenic. Only patriotism to the eugenic state requires your sacrifice and allegiance. VII. The patterns of sexual attractiveness must be understood and resisted. For example, too many males will seek an attractive woman over an intelligent one. This evolutionary desire must be evaluated and counteracted. But means are available. Sex and reproduction are no longer linked, and communities that extend beyond the simple family unit can live with this anomaly. It should be recognized and tolerated. The same goes for not requiring women to bear children. Bearing children and parenthood need not be linked, bonding to children in humans occurs some time AFTER birth, unlike other species. VIII. Potential children are in abundant supply and the world is overpopulated with people without a future. Every child brought into this world should be of the finest intellect possible, and free of genetic diseases or abnormalities. Every generation needs to be an incremental step in the evolution to a new species. The only traits to be altered during the first genesis shall be an increase in overall intelligence, typical intellectual engagement(TIE), and patriotism. Other behavioral traits must only be altered when there is no longer a danger from competitive species and our knowledge of our species has progressed to a state of understanding that makes behavioral traits modification beyond question. Until then, we must retain the full spectrum of human variation for the sake of higher adaptability and survivability. IX. Our genders are equal because no more division of labor is required. The mind is the only machine that is really important. Breeding is no longer the result of sex. Breeding will be directed by intelligent purposefulness for genetically enhanced children. X. Warfare, that ever present component that drove group evolution to reach Homo Sapiens will continue. Eugenicists will be attacked and we will always be outnumbered. Brains must be used in place of soldiers if we are to hold off attacks and detractors. But war it shall be, even if only intellectual warfare, until we can overcome our own human nature for hostility towards the other—and the other is no longer a threat. Join us at http://www.prometheism.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 Is this a joke? What does this have to do with self- realization? Marion singularity96 <singularity96 RamanaMaharshi <RamanaMaharshi> Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:57 PM [RamanaMaharshi] PROMETHEISM Prometheans coming together to breed a new human species with a higher intellect and love of one's people. A communion of intellect and beauty for the simple reason that it can be done. This creation is what gives us purpose and meaning. No other justification is required for this program to advance our Promethean species. Principles and Goals I. We are both a nation and a religion. Whether we will be a diasporic nation, a nation with boundaries, or both, will depend on circumstances currently beyond our control. But in the future, a homeland must be sought for by any means available. II. Our aim is to create a genetically enhanced race that will eventually become a new, superior species. In the short-term, this will be achieved via eugenics and genetic engineering. III. There are many reasons why we want to achieve this: a.) Technology has outpaced the human brain in modernization -- we must now play catchup using eugenics and do it alone if necessary. b.) The world is caught in a dysgenic trend from which we want to be freed. c.) This is a way of maximizing our viability -- the survival and probability of survival of our genes. A more intelligent species will be more fit to adapt to new environments and to face new threats and obstacles. d.) We see this as the noble thing to do, the idealization of humanity and beyond-humanity. We seek to bring ourselves closer to Godhood. Through eugenics and other forms of improvement, we will bring higher civilization, higher creativity, higher consciousness to the Universe. What Nature used to do via natural selection, we will now take into our own hands with directed and deliberate evolution. IV. We must not concern ourselves with others that are caught in the dysgenic cycle. We must only be concerned with the success of other competing eugenics' programs that will pose a threat to our own new species, for speciation will not travel along a single vector when humans compete using the new technologies. V. Any eugenics' program has equal validity to use the state's coercive power to improve human genetic capital. Genetic capital is now more valuable than land and/or territory aside from some scarce resources. DNA or genetic capital is the most valuable commodity in the universe. VI. Behavioral tolerance should flow naturally out of a highly intelligent, eugenic society that is ethically cohesive. It must be accepting of many different preferences or freedoms of personal conduct that might offend, but does no harm to the group. That is, elimination of consensual crimes is a given in a society that through intelligence and understanding of human behavior in others can tolerate deviants who do no harm. VII. We are not a cult or sect. Our principles are firmly grounded in empiricism and neo-Darwinism. Our purpose is merely to do what we believe is noble, using science to create a new human species because that is what we want to do. No irrational dogma is required or desired. The eugenic state is a sovereign state, with or without borders. VIII. As creators we do not submit to dogma or blind faith, but only to empirical knowledge. Likewise, we have no need of holy men, only wise men. As individuals, we only submit to the goals of the project, and to nothing else. And in allowing us to be part of the creation, the group gives back to the individual a sense of purpose and fulfillment. Eugenic is that which makes us come closer to our image of god in a technological and ever expanding universe. No limits, and no regrets. Rules and Strategies I. The danger of curing the effects of genetic disease through postnatal intervention, and the accumulation of bad genes, is equivalent to allowing toxins to build up in the environment and curing them with vitamin supplements. Resources must not be wasted on curing disease when it is more cost effective to merely eliminate the disease from the genetic capital of the eugenic nation. We can easily live with numerous minor genetic flaws, but it should never be policy to correct obviously adverse genetic diseases when they can be detected and eliminated from the gene pool, even though that is not our primary goal. II. Eventually, the goal of a eugenically equalized society is to displace representative democracy with direct democracy. Only in this way can the corruption inherent in democracy be eliminated. This direct democracy requires that all members of society be highly intelligent and capable of understanding the issues as well as our elite representatives do now. III. Neither any single woman nor man must be forced to procreate or to spend time raising children. The genes of the group flow in all of us, and resource acquisition is as important as having children to the success of the group. That is, it is each person's choice where to contribute. It may be more beneficial to hire breeders for having the children rather than force women who prefer an intellectual life over being pregnant. And the same with raising children. Group goals are met by everyone becoming a specialist in what they do best, as long as it contributes in some way. IV. Eugenicists can be classified as breeders, enforcers, or nurturers. That is, there will be those who want to participate but not necessarily pass on their own genes for various reasons. Everyone will be productive and further the cause, but not everyone needs to do it in the same manner. Specialization is efficiency. And our genes run throughout the tribe, not in individual families, though family cohesiveness will not be frowned upon as a natural instinct. V. Racial purity is not a valid concept for a eugenicist. Since we are breeding and genetically splicing our way into a new species, racial components are ever changing. The only valid concept is one of group cohesiveness. We want to be with people who are like us, that is similarity in phenotype bonds the group together, not racial purity. VI. Allegiance and patriotism to the group takes precedence before attachment to one's religion or patriotism to the country where one just happens to reside. Going to war for the state because of shared loyalties is dysgenic. Only patriotism to the eugenic state requires your sacrifice and allegiance. VII. The patterns of sexual attractiveness must be understood and resisted. For example, too many males will seek an attractive woman over an intelligent one. This evolutionary desire must be evaluated and counteracted. But means are available. Sex and reproduction are no longer linked, and communities that extend beyond the simple family unit can live with this anomaly. It should be recognized and tolerated. The same goes for not requiring women to bear children. Bearing children and parenthood need not be linked, bonding to children in humans occurs some time AFTER birth, unlike other species. VIII. Potential children are in abundant supply and the world is overpopulated with people without a future. Every child brought into this world should be of the finest intellect possible, and free of genetic diseases or abnormalities. Every generation needs to be an incremental step in the evolution to a new species. The only traits to be altered during the first genesis shall be an increase in overall intelligence, typical intellectual engagement(TIE), and patriotism. Other behavioral traits must only be altered when there is no longer a danger from competitive species and our knowledge of our species has progressed to a state of understanding that makes behavioral traits modification beyond question. Until then, we must retain the full spectrum of human variation for the sake of higher adaptability and survivability. IX. Our genders are equal because no more division of labor is required. The mind is the only machine that is really important. Breeding is no longer the result of sex. Breeding will be directed by intelligent purposefulness for genetically enhanced children. X. Warfare, that ever present component that drove group evolution to reach Homo Sapiens will continue. Eugenicists will be attacked and we will always be outnumbered. Brains must be used in place of soldiers if we are to hold off attacks and detractors. But war it shall be, even if only intellectual warfare, until we can overcome our own human nature for hostility towards the other—and the other is no longer a threat. Join us at http://www.prometheism.net/ Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi- List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/RamanaMaharshi Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 Dear Marion: It might not be a joke, but I sure had a great laugh. How rediculous it seems to me. Love, Alton --- Marion Hanvey <maz wrote: > Is this a joke? > What does this have to do with self- realization? > Marion > > singularity96 > <singularity96 > RamanaMaharshi > <RamanaMaharshi> > Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:57 PM > [RamanaMaharshi] PROMETHEISM > > > Prometheans coming together to breed a new human > species with a > higher intellect and love of one's people. A > communion of intellect > and beauty for the simple reason that it can be > done. This creation > is what gives us purpose and meaning. No other > justification is > required for this program to advance our Promethean > species. > > > Principles and Goals > > I. We are both a nation and a religion. Whether > we will be a > diasporic nation, a nation with boundaries, or both, > will depend on > circumstances currently beyond our control. But in > the future, a > homeland must be sought for by any means available. > > II. Our aim is to create a genetically enhanced race > that will > eventually become a new, superior species. In the > short-term, this > will be achieved via eugenics and genetic > engineering. > > III. There are many reasons why we want to > achieve this: > > a.) Technology has outpaced the human brain in > modernization -- we > must now play catchup using eugenics and do it alone > if necessary. > b.) The world is caught in a dysgenic trend from > which we want to be > freed. > c.) This is a way of maximizing our viability -- the > survival and > probability of survival of our genes. A more > intelligent species will > be more fit to adapt to new environments and to face > new threats and > obstacles. > d.) We see this as the noble thing to do, the > idealization of > humanity and beyond-humanity. We seek to bring > ourselves closer to > Godhood. Through eugenics and other forms of > improvement, we will > bring higher civilization, higher creativity, higher > consciousness to > the Universe. What Nature used to do via natural > selection, we will > now take into our own hands with directed and > deliberate evolution. > > > IV. We must not concern ourselves with others that > are caught in > the dysgenic cycle. We must only be concerned with > the success of > other competing eugenics' programs that will pose a > threat to our own > new species, for speciation will not travel along a > single vector > when humans compete using the new technologies. > > V. Any eugenics' program has equal validity to use > the state's > coercive power to improve human genetic capital. > Genetic capital is > now more valuable than land and/or territory aside > from some scarce > resources. DNA or genetic capital is the most > valuable commodity in > the universe. > > VI. Behavioral tolerance should flow naturally out > of a highly > intelligent, eugenic society that is ethically > cohesive. It must be > accepting of many different preferences or freedoms > of personal > conduct that might offend, but does no harm to the > group. That is, > elimination of consensual crimes is a given in a > society that through > intelligence and understanding of human behavior in > others can > tolerate deviants who do no harm. > > VII. We are not a cult or sect. Our principles are > firmly grounded > in empiricism and neo-Darwinism. Our purpose is > merely to do what we > believe is noble, using science to create a new > human species because > that is what we want to do. No irrational dogma is > required or > desired. The eugenic state is a sovereign state, > with or without > borders. > > VIII. As creators we do not submit to dogma or > blind faith, but > only to empirical knowledge. Likewise, we have no > need of holy men, > only wise men. As individuals, we only submit to the > goals of the > project, and to nothing else. And in allowing us to > be part of the > creation, the group gives back to the individual a > sense of purpose > and fulfillment. Eugenic is that which makes us come > closer to our > image of god in a technological and ever expanding > universe. No > limits, and no regrets. > > Rules and Strategies > > I. The danger of curing the effects of genetic > disease through > postnatal intervention, and the accumulation of bad > genes, is > equivalent to allowing toxins to build up in the > environment and > curing them with vitamin supplements. Resources must > not be wasted on > curing disease when it is more cost effective to > merely eliminate the > disease from the genetic capital of the eugenic > nation. We can easily > live with numerous minor genetic flaws, but it > should never be policy > to correct obviously adverse genetic diseases when > they can be > detected and eliminated from the gene pool, even > though that is not > our primary goal. > > II. Eventually, the goal of a eugenically > equalized society is to > displace representative democracy with direct > democracy. Only in this > way can the corruption inherent in democracy be > eliminated. This > direct democracy requires that all members of > society be highly > intelligent and capable of understanding the issues > as well as our > elite representatives do now. > > III. Neither any single woman nor man must be > forced to procreate > or to spend time raising children. The genes of the > group flow in all > of us, and resource acquisition is as important as > having children to > the success of the group. That is, it is each > person's choice where > to contribute. It may be more beneficial to hire > breeders for having > the children rather than force women who prefer an > intellectual life > over being pregnant. And the same with raising > children. Group goals > are met by everyone becoming a specialist in what > they do best, as > long as it contributes in some way. > > IV. Eugenicists can be classified as breeders, > enforcers, or > nurturers. That is, there will be those who want to > participate but > not necessarily pass on their own genes for various > reasons. Everyone > will be productive and further the cause, but not > everyone needs to > do it in the same manner. Specialization is > efficiency. And our genes > run throughout the tribe, not in individual > families, though family > cohesiveness will not be frowned upon as a natural > instinct. > > === message truncated === Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.