Guest guest Posted August 4, 2001 Report Share Posted August 4, 2001 Hi Marianne, This is a fascinating question. I never encountered this problem myself. Usually such a lack of experience would stop me from offering any advice, but in this case, perhaps my lack of experience may suggest something useful. In my case, my first deep experience with meditation occurred while walking down a New York City street with my eyes open in the middle of the afternoon -- my thoughts stopped. I guess this early experience just naturally made me feel like it was easy and natural to withdraw attention from the senses, and as the years went by, and my meditation practice changed, this skill (and I do think it's a skill) just naturally continued to develop. Today it makes no difference where I meditate or how noisy the surroundings are. Many of my deepest experiences have occurred in noisy places or while occupied in various ways or even while talking over dinner with friends. I still live in New York, and whenever I take the subway, I never bring anything to read because it's a natural opportunity to meditate. What I'm describing is just an accident of the history of my practice but I wonder perhaps if your history is the opposite: perhaps you always meditate in quiet circumstances with your eyes closed. If so, maybe it would help to gradually introduce more sense stimulation into your environment while you meditate. If you currently keep your eyes closed, learn to do it instead with eyes open. Put some music on while you do it. Then work your way up to news radio. It's more a trick of keeping your attention focused where you want it rather than trying to ignore something. Since you already know where your attention should be, I think you will find that you adapt very fast, maybe even in a few days. I feel a little awkward offering this advice because it goes beyond my experience. I hate to hold myself out as a meditation teacher of any kind because I'm not. But I thought perhaps my experience might be of some use to you so I offer it. If this is useless please forgive me intruding with my own history. The other thing that occurs to me is the distinction that Theravada Buddhism draws between Vipassana (awareness) meditation and Samatha (quietness) meditation. I suspect that your situation resembles that of a Buddhist who has emphasized Samatha in her practice and could now benefit from a little more effort on the Vipassana side. It occurs to me that you might benefit from consulting a Theravada meditation teacher. Those folks have done more than almost any other tradition in analyzing the various skills involved in meditation and figuring out how to master them. Best regards, Rob P.S. When you eventually move past this problem -- and I'm sure you will -- I would be very interested in having you write an article about it for my website. -----Original message------------- Marianne.Uhrendorf@s... Sat Aug 4, 2001 1:06 pm How to adjust to the pace of modern life? > I am a bit worried about a problem relating to meditation. First, > when I have time to meditate longer, I feel I am progressing, my > dentity may wanish for short periods, I may be filled with peace and > bliss. But the return to normal life Western style is often very > painful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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