Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 Dear friends, Of the devotees who had direct personal contact with Bhagavan, which ones were generally regarded as having become self-realized? The only ones I know are the people selected by David Godman for his biographies: Sri H.W.L Poonja Sri Lakshmana Swamy Sri Annamalai Swami Can we add other names to this list? Yours in Bhagavan, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Arunachalaramanaya **************************************** Rob, You could look into Robert Adams and Sri Sadhu Om Swamigal. In Bhagavan, Adam --- Rob Sacks <editor wrote: > Dear friends, > > Of the devotees who had direct personal > contact with Bhagavan, which ones were > generally regarded as having become > self-realized? > > The only ones I know are the people > selected by David Godman for his > biographies: > > Sri H.W.L Poonja > Sri Lakshmana Swamy > Sri Annamalai Swami > > Can we add other names to this list? > > Yours in Bhagavan, > > Rob > > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 Dear Adam, Thank you very much for the suggestions. Did Robert Adams ever meet Bhagavan? Regards, Rob - "Achala" <ramanachala108 <RamanaMaharshi> Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:56 PM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Who was self-realized? > Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Arunachalaramanaya > **************************************** > > > Rob, > > You could look into Robert Adams and > Sri Sadhu Om Swamigal. > > In Bhagavan, > Adam > > > > > --- Rob Sacks <editor wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > Of the devotees who had direct personal > > contact with Bhagavan, which ones were > > generally regarded as having become > > self-realized? > > > > The only ones I know are the people > > selected by David Godman for his > > biographies: > > > > Sri H.W.L Poonja > > Sri Lakshmana Swamy > > Sri Annamalai Swami > > > > Can we add other names to this list? > > > > Yours in Bhagavan, > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger > http://phonecard./ > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi- > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/RamanaMaharshi > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 - Rob Sacks RamanaMaharshi Saturday, August 18, 2001 9:53 PM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Who was self-realized? Dear Adam, Thank you very much for the suggestions. Did Robert Adams ever meet Bhagavan? Regards, Rob Hi Rob, According to this on his webpage, he did meet Ramana. Love, Gloria Remember the Reasons Why You Came Here Satsang with Robert Adams December 23, 1990 I welcome you with all my heart and with all my being. It's good to see you all here, everyone of you. In 1947 I went to Ramana Maharshi. After spending around three days talking with Ramana, I settled down with the devotees, in the hall, and I used to sit at the right side of the hall against the wall, watching all the people come in. They had devotees, disciples, and seekers. The devotees were always the same. They never said much. They were immersed in themselves. The disciples and the seekers quarreled with each other. I recall a particular Indian who was very quarrelsome with the disciples, and he used to find fault with everybody. He would go to Ramana and say, "So and so is doing this, so and so is doing that." And Ramana would tell him, "Remember the reasons why you came here and keep silent." The reason of course was to find the Self, and not to interfere with anybody else. But there were all kinds of incidents going on. Sikhs came, Hindus, Westerners, Buddhists, Zen Buddhists. People were practicing hatha yoga. All these things were happening in front of Ramana. But it didn't faze Ramana one bit. Continued at: http://www.leelaa.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Arunachalaramanaya **************************************** Rob, Robert lived at Ramanasrama in the presence of Bhagavan for the last three years of Sri Ramana's bodily existence. Sri Ramana, Adam --- Rob Sacks <editor wrote: > Dear Adam, > > Thank you very much for the suggestions. > > Did Robert Adams ever meet Bhagavan? > > Regards, > > Rob > > > - > "Achala" <ramanachala108 > <RamanaMaharshi> > Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:56 PM > Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Who was self-realized? > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Arunachalaramanaya > > **************************************** > > > > > > Rob, > > > > You could look into Robert Adams and > > Sri Sadhu Om Swamigal. > > > > In Bhagavan, > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > --- Rob Sacks <editor wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Of the devotees who had direct personal > > > contact with Bhagavan, which ones were > > > generally regarded as having become > > > self-realized? > > > > > > The only ones I know are the people > > > selected by David Godman for his > > > biographies: > > > > > > Sri H.W.L Poonja > > > Sri Lakshmana Swamy > > > Sri Annamalai Swami > > > > > > Can we add other names to this list? > > > > > > Yours in Bhagavan, > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute > with Messenger > > http://phonecard./ > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > > Subscribe: > RamanaMaharshi- > > Un: > RamanaMaharshi- > > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > /community/RamanaMaharshi > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Dear devotees, > > > Of the devotees who had direct personal > > > contact with Bhagavan, which ones were > > > generally regarded as having become > > > self-realized? > > > > > > The only ones I know are the people > > > selected by David Godman for his > > > biographies: > > > > > > Sri H.W.L Poonja > > > Sri Lakshmana Swamy > > > Sri Annamalai Swami > > > > > > Can we add other names to this list? I feel we should learn a lot from all the devotees of Bhagavan. It is not right for us to judge or classify the revered devotees of Bhagavan. Historians may be interested in such things, but they do not benefit sadhakas. Even if you are very interested and want to do an academic study of Bhagavan and his devotees, first taste the nectar yourself. Before that you cannot understand them. If you want to do a study of mangoes, you should first have tasted one yourself. With love, Gomu. -- ----------------------------- Email: gomu Phone(Off): +91 44 4466448, 4466449 Phone(Res): +91 44 8140104 Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/gokulmuthu/ ----------------------------- It is better to wear out than to rust out. - Swami Vivekananda ----------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Hello Gomu, The reason I asked was because realized disciples of Bhagavan are in an especially good position to offer comments that help us learn the technique of self-inquiry. I observed this while reading the biographies that David Godman has written of three self-realized disciples of Bhagavan. I asked because I want to find more writings of that sort. I would urge anyone who doubts the usefulness of my question to read those books by David: No Mind -- I Am The Self Day By Day With Bhagavan Nothing Ever Happened There are two reasons why realized disciples of Bhagavan are uniquely positioned to help us in this way: -- we can have a high level of confidence that they are describing the method taught by Bhagavan, because they received instruction from him personally; -- they can describe the method in different words than those used by Bhagavan, thus shedding new light on the process, because they had the experience for themselves. Best regards, Rob - "Gokulmuthu N." <gokulmuthu <RamanaMaharshi> Monday, August 20, 2001 1:22 AM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Who was self-realized? > Dear devotees, > > > > > Of the devotees who had direct personal > > > > contact with Bhagavan, which ones were > > > > generally regarded as having become > > > > self-realized? > > > > > > > > The only ones I know are the people > > > > selected by David Godman for his > > > > biographies: > > > > > > > > Sri H.W.L Poonja > > > > Sri Lakshmana Swamy > > > > Sri Annamalai Swami > > > > > > > > Can we add other names to this list? > > I feel we should learn a lot from all the devotees > of Bhagavan. It is not right for us to judge or classify > the revered devotees of Bhagavan. Historians may be > interested in such things, but they do not benefit sadhakas. > Even if you are very interested and want to do an > academic study of Bhagavan and his devotees, first taste > the nectar yourself. Before that you cannot understand > them. If you want to do a study of mangoes, you should first > have tasted one yourself. > > With love, > Gomu. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Oops, made a mistake in my previous message. The second book in the list should be "Living By The Words of Bhagavan." Instead I accidentally typed "Day By Day With Bhagavan," which was written by A. Devaraja Mudaliar rather than David Godman. - "Rob Sacks" <editor <RamanaMaharshi> Monday, August 20, 2001 11:50 AM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Who was self-realized? > > I would urge anyone who doubts the usefulness > of my question to read those books by David: > > No Mind -- I Am The Self > Day By Day With Bhagavan > Nothing Ever Happened > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Hello, I appreciate your point of view. As long as the search is a humble one seeking real Light, then it is fine. It should not become an armchair judgement. Here in India we believe that the most important thing is the earnestness and sincerity of the seeker. The only Guru is God Himself. God instructs the sincere seeker through a human mouth - the Guru. That is why we do not consider the Guru to be a human being. Guru is just a medium of the Lord for the disciple. There may be a good seeker and a bad seeker. But there is no concept of a bad Guru. One person's Guru might be an ordinary person to another. That is why it is not important who your Guru is or how competent He is as a human being. As long as you have faith in God and the Guru, God speaks to you through the Guru. What others say about the Guru matters least to the sincere disciple. This can be seen repeated by Bhagavan in several of his conversations. With regards, Gomu. Rob Sacks wrote: > > Hello Gomu, > > The reason I asked was because realized > disciples of Bhagavan are in an especially > good position to offer comments that help > us learn the technique of self-inquiry. > > I observed this while reading the biographies > that David Godman has written of three > self-realized disciples of Bhagavan. > > I asked because I want to find more writings > of that sort. > > I would urge anyone who doubts the usefulness > of my question to read those books by David: > > No Mind -- I Am The Self > Day By Day With Bhagavan > Nothing Ever Happened > > There are two reasons why realized disciples > of Bhagavan are uniquely positioned to help > us in this way: > > -- we can have a high level of confidence that > they are describing the method taught by > Bhagavan, because they received instruction > from him personally; > > -- they can describe the method in different > words than those used by Bhagavan, thus shedding > new light on the process, because they had the > experience for themselves. > > Best regards, > > Rob > > - > "Gokulmuthu N." <gokulmuthu > <RamanaMaharshi> > Monday, August 20, 2001 1:22 AM > Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Who was self-realized? > > > Dear devotees, > > > > > > > Of the devotees who had direct personal > > > > > contact with Bhagavan, which ones were > > > > > generally regarded as having become > > > > > self-realized? > > > > > > > > > > The only ones I know are the people > > > > > selected by David Godman for his > > > > > biographies: > > > > > > > > > > Sri H.W.L Poonja > > > > > Sri Lakshmana Swamy > > > > > Sri Annamalai Swami > > > > > > > > > > Can we add other names to this list? > > > > I feel we should learn a lot from all the devotees > > of Bhagavan. It is not right for us to judge or classify > > the revered devotees of Bhagavan. Historians may be > > interested in such things, but they do not benefit sadhakas. > > Even if you are very interested and want to do an > > academic study of Bhagavan and his devotees, first taste > > the nectar yourself. Before that you cannot understand > > them. If you want to do a study of mangoes, you should first > > have tasted one yourself. > > > > With love, > > Gomu. -- ----------------------------- Email: gomu Phone(Off): +91 44 4466448, 4466449 Phone(Res): +91 44 8140104 Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/gokulmuthu/ ----------------------------- It is better to wear out than to rust out. - Swami Vivekananda ----------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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