Maha Yoga - the real Eye - correction

September 4, 2001

om namo bhagavte SrI

ramaNAya

Dear Sri Vicki,

It am able to relate the

many quotes from the book "Maha Yoga" which you are

posting, to Bhagavan's 'Forty verses on Reality'

(uLLadu nArpadu in Tamil or satdarshanam in sanskrit).

The posting on the 'Real Eye' is in

fact, the translation of the fourth of the forty

verses, not counting the the first two invocatory

verses. Sri Lakshmana Shrama (the author of the

book 'Maha Yoga' and who later wrote under the

pen name 'Who') has also written a commentary in Tamil

for the 'Forty Verses on Reality'.

Thank you for your

frequent re'mind'ers of Bhagavan's words.

namo ramaNA

suri

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weissman <viorica> wrote:

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MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><TT>Hello

All, I am resending the previous message "the real

Eye". A correction is needed , unfortunately I

still make a lot of mistakes when typing.

the statemenet : "But

neither the phisical mind nor the mind has any power

of vision of its

own;" is :

"But

neither the phisical eye nor the mind has any power of

vision

of its

own;" vicki =============================================

The question whether forms are real is therefore

separately dealt with by the Sage. He says

: "If the self be with form , then the

world and God would be so too. But if

the self be formless , then how and by whom are forms

to be seen ? Is the spectacle ever

otherwise than as the seeing eye is ?

The real Eye is just the real Self ; It is infinite

Consciousness , formless and

wordless." The meaning was

explained by the Sage himself as follows

: "if the eye that sees be the eye of

flesh , then gross forms are

seen: if that eye be assisted by

lenses , then even invisible things are

seen to have form; if the mind

be the eye , then subtle forms are

seen; thus the seeing eye and

the object seen are of the same

nature;

that is , if the eye be itself

a form , it sees nothing but forms.

But neither the phisical

eye nor the mind has any power of

vision of its own ; the real Eye

is the Self ; as He is formless , being

the pure and infinite

Consciousness , the Reality , He does not

see forms."

Forms are created by the very act of

seeing. *****

MAHA YOGA or

The Upanishadic Lore in the Light of the Teachings of

Bhagavan Sri Ramana By 'Who' (K.

Lakshmana Sarma). published by : T.N.

Venkataraman Sri Ramanasramam , 1973

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September 4, 2001

Sorry. My last mail got garbled (htmlled. I am

forwarding it again. Hope this one comes through with

out any problem or garb.

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om namo bhagavte SrI ramaNAya

Dear Sri Vicki,

It is nice to note that the many quotes from the book

"Maha Yoga" which you are posting, relate to

Bhagavan's 'Forty verses on Reality' (uLLadu nArpadu

in Tamil or satdarshanam in sanskrit). Your posting

on the 'Real Eye' is in fact, the translation of the

fourth of the forty verses (not counting the the

first two invocatory verses). Sri Lakshmana Sharma

(the author of the book 'Maha Yoga' who later wrote

under the pen name 'Who') has also written a

commentary in Tamil for the 'Forty Verses on Reality'.

Thank you for your frequent re'mind'ers of Bhagavan's

words.

namo ramaNA

suri

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> viorica weissman wrote:

>

> <snip>

> The question whether forms are real is therefore

> separately dealt with by the Sage. He says "If the

> self be with form, then the world and God would be

> so

> too. But if the self be formless, then how and by

> whom

> are forms to be seen ? Is the spectacle ever

> otherwise

> than as the seeing eye is ? The real Eye is just the

> real Self; It is infinite Consciousness, formless

> and

> wordless." The meaning was explained by the Sage

> himself as follows "if the eye that sees be the eye

> of

> flesh, then gross forms areseen: if that eye be

> assisted by lenses , even invisible things are seen

> to

> have form; if the mind be the eye, then subtle forms

> are seen; thus the seeing eye and the object seen

> are

> of the same nature that is, if the eye be itself a

> form, it sees nothing but forms. But neither the

> phisical eye nor the mind has any power of vision of

> its own ; the real Eye is the Self as He is formless

> ,

> being the pure and infinite Consciousness , the

> Reality, He does not see forms." Forms are created

> by

> the very act of seeing.

>

> The Upanishadic Lore in the Light of the

> Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana

> By 'Who' (K. Lakshmana Sarma)

> published by : T.N. Venkataraman,

> Sri Ramanasramam , 1973

>

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September 5, 2001

Hi Vicki,

> Does "Who"'s commentary about

> 'Forty Verses on Reality'

> exist in English translation also ?

> I would like to read it.

There is a short English commentary by

Who in the booklet "Revelation" published by Sri

Ramanasramam. I don't know if it's the same

commentary as the one mentioned by Sri Suri.

By the way, I think you mentioned that you have

the Arunachala CD. It contains a nice short

commentary by T.M.P. Mahadevan. Actually,

the commentary is a single page in an article,

but it's a very nice single page! The article is called

"The Maharishi and the Path of Knowledge." It's

in Mountain Path number 4.

Prof. T.M.P. Mahadevan is also the

author of "Ramana Maharshi and His Philosophy

of Existence," which contains my favorite

English translation and commentary on 40 Verses.

Trans-oceanically,

Rob

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