Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 Hi, ... gee, this one is difficult to put in words .. All this ego-business, that we are so intersted in to enquire into and tear to pieces.. I wonder now, what is actually the point ?.. For example, Gary writes : "So is there anything substantial to base memory on apart from other memories? What is memory then but a conceptual picture, an idealized form." He questions whether Time is just a concept. It seems so. But how about, "memory, picture, substantial", are these not Also concepts ? If so, are we not still swimming in the same 'soup' ? Saying that the soup-structure is not 'real', is part of the soup.. no? But my question is .. what Is wrong with this 'soup' ? I am identified with the body.. take care of it and if someone attacks I will probably do what I can to protect it. It might be Mother Nature's mechanics. What's wrong with that ? ... or with the brain's preference for this or that,.. or even making a picture of a person who is always agressive, and so being on the watch. In that might be involved anger even prejudice .. it does not sound terribly nice .. but these soup-fragments Are there, functioning for some purpose, to protect the inner universe that extends to the skin. I do not recall, 'me'/ego putting these there. And even if it did/does, apart from the ego's becoming a 4-letter word, .. what's wrong with it ? But then, there come the spiritual/enlightened ones, who tell us :"Yes but listen.. living like that (as ego) might be good for the protection of your personal universe, BUT it separates/isolates you from THE Universe. So leave your ego, and become a beatiful and blissful Universal Identity". ... and being tempted, the circus of 'spiritual' fragments looking at and battling with and interpretting the 'not so spiritual' ones, begins. So now, one is still in the soup, and the difference between a spiritual-soup and the normal-soup being that the spir.-soup has incorporated a tribe of anti-normal-soup Anarchists .. which gives its own extra aches to the head. And the play goes on. And I wonder, whether the anti-normal-soup 'spiritual' gang, is of any benefit or brings a mere extra complication to life ? Why let that gang in, to begin with ?! You might say.. "well you have already answered that yourself.. 'cause that's the way mother nature made you.. so what's wrong with that .. why make a problem out of it ?" But the fact is that one does make a 'problem' out of it.. and you might say "so what's wrong with that ?.. it is as it is". Well maybe that's "the end of the famous rope".. or maybe not.. maybe just a big despair-'headache'.. and you might say : "so why do you make a problem out of it ? .. he he .." So I just go home and turn on the TV. Surrendering to my normal-soup. But the 'spiritual gang' is watching too.. commenting. But if I turn on the TV volume high enough,.. I cannot hear its comments so clearly any longer. And the neigbour's Mother Nature makes him to come and kick butt .. Now, That's a problem ! So .. what then ?! I can hear you whisper "this chap is certainly Not at the eotr.." .. So I say "what's wrong with that ?". And you say "your post says after all 'I was Thinking'.. well, _That's_ your problem !" Yes but, I thought you said why make problem out of anything ?!.. "Well, if you do not want to be the Universal Self, that's your problem.." So back to square one. No ?! That was a monologue.. comments welcome. Regards, jb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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