Guest guest Posted December 30, 2000 Report Share Posted December 30, 2000 Dear vicki, As this is between you and me, suggest continuing off-list. That is if you care to. Otherwise, your opinion noted.<s> Thank you Incidentally Ramana was one of the highest expression of that-which-IS. And a feeling that I have asked you to leave Ramana, is your assumption, scumpa. Have fun Chikoooo Chikoooo Chikoooo - viorica weissman RamanaMaharshi Friday, January 11, 2002 02:31 PM [RamanaMaharshi] P.S. to Sandeep i feel there is something left to clarify with you. some old feelings coming to surface : you left me the impression that you don't know that you can not interfere between one and one's guru; it is so clearly exposed in the scriptures , ancient and new, so why are you doing this ? you correct others , you teach others , but do you learn from the others ? you have a lot to learn from the others, if you keep an open mind. you take the liberty to teach people but you hurt and attack in the process. stop a little and think - where the problem could be ? you take the liberty to teach and correct others , so take my answer as a 'fair roundabout' coming back to you , as somebody said on another list. find your peace of mind first , and only after that tell me to 'leave' Ramana because i am not going lo leave him not for you and not for any other teacher . i hope for you that you do not really think that your words are above Ramana's or even equal ; to me you appear as an individual with great knowledge and understanding but with a restless mind. if i am wrong , if i am unfair then i really want to talk about it because you did hurt me in the past, and being both members in Ramana's house , problems have to be clarified , exposed and dissolved. i wonder - have you ever thought for even a second in your life that i might take somebody else 's words regarding Self-realization before Ramana's words ?! Oh no no no ! NO. just leave things as they are and accept them , they are not in your hands, you know that , do you need to be reminded ? fortunately the owner of this list is Miles , and i am sure that as long as he is here with us , Ramana is our loved Master and everything , and his words and presence will ever guide us . nothing more is needed. This is Ramana's house . just open your heart to Ramana , he will help you find your peace . vicki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 >From my not inclusive readings of Ramana, I saw that what ever someone was into as far as spiritual practice is concerned, Ramana always said to continue it. Does anyone have another view on that? TIA Aloha, Alton i feel there is something left to clarify with you. some old feelings coming to surface : you left me the impression that you don't know that you can not interfere between one and one's guru; it is so clearly exposed in the scriptures , ancient and new, so why are you doing this ? you correct others , you teach others , but do you learn from the others ? you have a lot to learn from the others, if you keep an open mind. you take the liberty to teach people but you hurt and attack in the process. stop a little and think - where the problem could be ? you take the liberty to teach and correct others , so take my answer as a 'fair roundabout' coming back to you , as somebody said on another list. find your peace of mind first , and only after that tell me to 'leave' Ramana because i am not going lo leave him not for you and not for any other teacher . i hope for you that you do not really think that your words are above Ramana's or even equal ; to me you appear as an individual with great knowledge and understanding but with a restless mind. if i am wrong , if i am unfair then i really want to talk about it because you did hurt me in the past, and being both members in Ramana's house , problems have to be clarified , exposed and dissolved. i wonder - have you ever thought for even a second in your life that i might take somebody else 's words regarding Self-realization before Ramana's words ?! Oh no no no ! NO. just leave things as they are and accept them , they are not in your hands, you know that , do you need to be reminded ? fortunately the owner of this list is Miles , and i am sure that as long as he is here with us , Ramana is our loved Master and everything , and his words and presence will ever guide us . nothing more is needed. This is Ramana's house . just open your heart to Ramana , he will help you find your peace . vicki. Sponsor Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi- List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 In a message dated 1/11/2002 12:08:12 PM Central Standard Time, viorica writes: > Sandeep, > > you did hurt me a couple of times by now > and there was one day in december when i took a day off from work > just because you did upset me terrible. > so it is no joke. > *I was saddened to hear of this, Viorica. Your contributions to the list are wonderful and I enjoy them.. I know how easy it is to become upset over e-mails as there are some out there in etherland who use the anonymity to allow themselves to say things they wouldn't in public. I personally think that a moderator of a list has the duty to warn those who disrupt, grandstand, or "flame" others personally that further misuse will end in being removed from the list. Of course on the other hand I am talking about extreme cases and as readers we should also have thick enough skin to tolerate differences. Where do you draw the line? IMO, when someone takes it to the level of personal attacks. I hope you're OK, Viorica... Peace Poly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Viorica: I just got a nice hit from what you wrote about Ramana. Mahalo, Alton > > From my not inclusive readings of Ramana, I saw that what ever someone was into as far as spiritual practice is concerned, Ramana always said to continue it. > > > Aloha, > Alton > Aloha, continue it , Alton , whatever . Yes,Ramana always said to continue it , never 'leave' this for that or similar. there is no one like Ramana , the more you read of him , the more you go to the details of his life the more you love his words and him , as a person, as a guru , as God , as Self , as everything. Sponsor Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi- List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Sandeep, Please ckeck your system date. - Seshadri. --- Sandeep Chatterjee <sandeepc wrote: > Dear vicki, > > As this is between you and me, suggest continuing > off-list. > > That is if you care to. > > Otherwise, your opinion noted.<s> > > Thank you > > Incidentally Ramana was one of the highest > expression of that-which-IS. > > And a feeling that I have asked you to leave Ramana, > is your assumption, scumpa. > > > Have fun > > > Chikoooo Chikoooo Chikoooo > > - > viorica weissman > RamanaMaharshi > Friday, January 11, 2002 02:31 PM > [RamanaMaharshi] P.S. to Sandeep > > > i feel there is something left to clarify with > you. > some old feelings coming to surface : > > you left me the impression that you don't know > that you can not interfere between one and one's > guru; > it is so clearly exposed in the scriptures , > ancient and new, > so why are you doing this ? > > you correct others , you teach others , > but do you learn from the others ? > you have a lot to learn from the others, if you > keep an open mind. > > you take the liberty to teach people but you hurt > and attack in the process. > stop a little and think - where the problem could > be ? > > you take the liberty to teach and correct others > , so take my answer > as a 'fair roundabout' coming back to you , as > somebody said on another list. > > > find your peace of mind first , > and only after that tell me to 'leave' Ramana > because i am not going lo leave him > not for you and not for any other teacher . > > i hope for you that you do not really think that > your words are above Ramana's or even > equal ; to me you appear as an individual with > great knowledge and understanding > but with a restless mind. > if i am wrong , if i am unfair then i really want > to talk about it because you did hurt me in the > past, > and being both members in Ramana's house , > problems have to be clarified , > exposed and dissolved. > > i wonder - have you ever thought for even a second > in your life that > i might take somebody else 's words regarding > Self-realization > before Ramana's words ?! Oh no no no ! > > NO. > > just leave things as they are and accept them , > they are not in your hands, > you know that , do you need to be reminded ? > > > fortunately the owner of this list is Miles , and > i am sure that as long as he is here > with us , Ramana is our loved Master and > everything , and his words and presence > will ever guide us . nothing more is needed. This > is Ramana's house . > > just open your heart to Ramana , he will help > you find your peace . > > vicki. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== Thanking You, With Warmest Regards, Seshadri. Email: dksesh http://dkseshadri.tripod.com Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Thanks Seshadri. Just realized that as per my system, I was 2 years younger. LOL. - Seshadri RamanaMaharshi Friday, January 11, 2002 11:02 PM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] P.S. to Sandeep Sandeep, Please ckeck your system date. - Seshadri. --- Sandeep Chatterjee <sandeepc wrote: > Dear vicki, > > As this is between you and me, suggest continuing > off-list. > > That is if you care to. > > Otherwise, your opinion noted.<s> > > Thank you > > Incidentally Ramana was one of the highest > expression of that-which-IS. > > And a feeling that I have asked you to leave Ramana, > is your assumption, scumpa. > > > Have fun > > > Chikoooo Chikoooo Chikoooo > > - > viorica weissman > RamanaMaharshi > Friday, January 11, 2002 02:31 PM > [RamanaMaharshi] P.S. to Sandeep > > > i feel there is something left to clarify with > you. > some old feelings coming to surface : > > you left me the impression that you don't know > that you can not interfere between one and one's > guru; > it is so clearly exposed in the scriptures , > ancient and new, > so why are you doing this ? > > you correct others , you teach others , > but do you learn from the others ? > you have a lot to learn from the others, if you > keep an open mind. > > you take the liberty to teach people but you hurt > and attack in the process. > stop a little and think - where the problem could > be ? > > you take the liberty to teach and correct others > , so take my answer > as a 'fair roundabout' coming back to you , as > somebody said on another list. > > > find your peace of mind first , > and only after that tell me to 'leave' Ramana > because i am not going lo leave him > not for you and not for any other teacher . > > i hope for you that you do not really think that > your words are above Ramana's or even > equal ; to me you appear as an individual with > great knowledge and understanding > but with a restless mind. > if i am wrong , if i am unfair then i really want > to talk about it because you did hurt me in the > past, > and being both members in Ramana's house , > problems have to be clarified , > exposed and dissolved. > > i wonder - have you ever thought for even a second > in your life that > i might take somebody else 's words regarding > Self-realization > before Ramana's words ?! Oh no no no ! > > NO. > > just leave things as they are and accept them , > they are not in your hands, > you know that , do you need to be reminded ? > > > fortunately the owner of this list is Miles , and > i am sure that as long as he is here > with us , Ramana is our loved Master and > everything , and his words and presence > will ever guide us . nothing more is needed. This > is Ramana's house . > > just open your heart to Ramana , he will help > you find your peace . > > vicki. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== Thanking You, With Warmest Regards, Seshadri. Email: dksesh http://dkseshadri.tripod.com Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Sponsor Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi- List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Dear vicky, I repeat, your issue is with me. Meet me and I will answer each of your issues. Why waste other's band width? Zip-A-Dee-Dah-Doo - viorica weissman RamanaMaharshi Friday, January 11, 2002 11:34 PM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] P.S. to Sandeep Sandeep, you did hurt me a couple of times by now and there was one day in december when i took a day off from work just because you did upset me terrible. so it is no joke. i work , i raise alone two children and i don't go to work because of somebody called Sandeep. but of course by your logic 'why bother?' because there is nobody there to bother about anything . please don't do on this list what you did on mine ; i know how you 'value' Ramana, his words and his devotees , i hope the owner and the moderators of this list will not allow you to be the teacher in Ramana's house. you can't. because you attack , hurt and insult people and your way of speaking of Ramana's teaching is unbearable. you caused such a wave an anger and unsubscriptions on my list , you spoke disrespectfully to my friends and to me , you caused me a lot of bitterness. you have a lot to learn from people . so learn. Sponsor Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi- List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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