Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 Dear Sai, >I guess the "recognising him "as all in all" is the crucial/important factor here Yes, indeed. > Do you have a favorate book that you feel gives a good 'flavour' of Ramana? Do you think P Brunton gave an accurate portrayal in his "secret search" book (keep meaning to buy a copy!) There are many books on Ramana. The first I read and which brought me in contact with Ramana was Brunton's Search in Secret India. He gives a beautiful portrayal of Ramana in the Thirties - but no full portrayal, because Brunton spend only a relativly short time (perhaps some months) in the Ashram (compared with other devotees; Sadhu Arunachala spend with Ramana 15 years, Kunju Swami 30 years!). The Brunton book was published in the early Thirties and Ramana died in 1950. I can recommend the book to start with but one should not be satisfied with it. A good biography is Arthur Osborne: Ramana Maharshi and the Path of Self-Knowledge and the new biography by A.R. Natarajan: Timeless in Time. If you want to go more in details there are the Letters from Sri Ramanasramam by Suri Nagamma and Day by Day with Bhagavan by A. Devaraja Mudaliar. I can also recommend the reminiscences by various devotees (Cohen, Sadhu Arunachala, Kunju Swami, Balarama Reddy...) and David Godman: Power of the Presence. The "one" book does not exist. If you want to have a real good portrayal and 'flavour' of Ramana you have to read several books. Studying the teachings of Ramana the book of Godman: Be As You Are is good to start with, but you should not miss reading also the Talks with Ramana Maharshi and the Collected Works. > I don't know whether it so much sounds confusing to me; i feel i intellectually understand the relationship between Guru and devotee; it's more about how in practice i'm actually relating - whether i'm connecting emotionally(seperation) or consciously seeing/feeling the unity. I think it's probably a mixture of the two. Thinking on it now; is that not how all devotees must relate - untill the time comes when the outer guru is no longer needed? As long as there is an individual I there is seperation. As long as there is an individual ego the relationship between Guru and devotee is needed. > Perhaps i'm worrying too much about it and need to relax - it's like half my mind is saying "forget the form - realise 'It' within you" and the other half is saying " take what you can from the form" Aaargghh!!! i've had this uncertainty with me for several years now of how to proceed in my sadhana, and i know that that uncertainty has had an effect of 'dampening down the fire of intensity' in any direction > I don't want this lukewarm intensity to continue any longer. It feels like my soul is nudging me to 'fan the flame'... Once the fire is burning it destroys everything including the form - earlier or later. Love Gabriele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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