[MillionPaths] a glimpse of the real Self every day.

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Yes, this seems to be the case with me too. The "I" thought arises too fast,

and the World arrives!

This twilight glimpse of the Self is described in some places in No Mind - I am

the Self by David Godman, (Out of Print)....one reference is below.....taken

from the chapter, "The Experience of the Self" page 195.

 

Swami: In sound sleep the mind (the "I") enters into the Heart but it remains

in an ignorance of the Self which cannot be described in words. Just before

waking, the mind, which is the "I" thought, rises from the Heart to the brain in

a split second through a passage called the amrita nadi. Then the mind

experiences the world through the five senses and thinks that it is real.

In Self Realisation, the pure mind, without thoughts and problems, returns

back to the Heart-cave through the narrow way, the Self pulls the mind towards

it and kills it.

After the death of the "I" the Self will remain, one without a second; it is

eternal peace and bliss. As there is no mind, there is no world, no birth and

no death. Just as ornaments are not apart from the gold they are made of, even

so, the world is not apart from the Self. As the Self is all pervading, it is

beyond time, directions, and the three states of waking, dreaming and sleeping.

 

There are references in other writings as to how, at the moment of death there

is the possibility of Self Realisation, a split second where All is revealed,

but it is also said that most people miss this momentary attainment and continue

on to rebirth in another form. The story of Ramana holding his first attendant,

Palaniswami, and also his Mother, may be a reference to the possibilities of

this death moment.

Should we believe that if we cannot obtain this glimpse in every day waking from

sleep that we will not be able to see it at death either?

 

John Maynard

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"lostnfoundation" <leenalton

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Friday, March 29, 2002 1:51 PM

[MillionPaths] Re: a glimpse of the real Self every day.

 

 

> Unfortunately for me the dream state comes right after the deep sleep

> state and in the dream state there is for me a surreal sense of "I"

> consciousness and therefore I miss the pure consciousness state. So,

> to catch the transition from the deep sleep state to the dream state

> will take more mental power that I have right now.

> Anyone else have some thoughts on this?

> TIA,

> Alton

>

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> MillionPaths, "viorica weissman" <viorica@z...> wrote:

> > One early morning Sri Bhagavan explained how we have a glimpse

> > of the real Self every day. Between sleep and waking there is

> > a momentary twilight. The waking consciousness begins with

> > the "I" thought . Just before the up-surge of the "I" thought ,

> > there is a split second of undifferentiated , pure consciousness .

> > First unconsciousness , then the light of pure consciousness,

> > then the "I" thought with which the world-consciousness floods in,

> > this is the order. The middle state is Self-awareness .

> > We can sense it if we are sufficiently alert and watchful.

> >

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> > taken from

> > Sri Ramana Reminiscences

> > G.V. SUBBARAMAYYA

> > second edition , Sri Ramanasramam , 1973

> > .................................................................

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