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Dear Richard:

 

You continue to grace this list with your insights and loving compassion. You

spoke to Viorica with the aforesaid and that indicates to me that you are not

just putting us on when you say that your "Self Inquiry" is deepening.

 

This is not my list and I cant set the parameters, but if I could I would allow

hurts, imagined or real to be expressed and worked out. What are the teachings

about, if not to love each other and listen when one of us is very stressed out,

because of life's circumstances.

 

Just image if you lived where Viorica lives. You find out that the bus you ride

on got blown up. Every time you are separated from your children you are

concerned for their safety. I wont go on and on, with this subject, except to

say that under those conditions any slights, apparent or imagined gets blown up

in the order of magnitude.

 

If someone feels irritated by what was happening on the list, then the same

process might work for them. Self Inquiry is the panacea.

 

Thanks again Richard and others for abiding in Ramana's love.

Aloha,

Alton

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Alton,

 

We are all blessed to have the wonderful teaching of Ramana to help

lift us out of the confines of our own small ego-I's.

 

You know that as you open to this Truth, something starts to happen;

the ego-I starts losing some of its apparent power.

 

I certainly am aware of the hurts, and terror, and love/fear for the

well being of one's childen (and other's). The question for seekers,

is how to deal with all this?

 

What I have learned from Nome and Russ over the years that I have

been sitting satsang with them, is that these ego-issues are best

dealt with from another level. So look at the ego-issues from the

stand of the Self, and the ego-issues are less significant and start

to lose their seeming power over you.

 

It was that kind of comment that I was trying to make.

 

We are Not two,

Richard

 

RamanaMaharshi, "I'M" <leenalton@h...> wrote:

> Dear Richard:

>

> You continue to grace this list with your insights and loving

compassion. You spoke to Viorica with the aforesaid and that

indicates to me that you are not just putting us on when you say that

your "Self Inquiry" is deepening.

>

> This is not my list and I cant set the parameters, but if I could I

would allow hurts, imagined or real to be expressed and worked out.

What are the teachings about, if not to love each other and listen

when one of us is very stressed out, because of life's circumstances.

>

> Just image if you lived where Viorica lives. You find out that the

bus you ride on got blown up. Every time you are separated from your

children you are concerned for their safety. I wont go on and on,

with this subject, except to say that under those conditions any

slights, apparent or imagined gets blown up in the order of magnitude.

>

> If someone feels irritated by what was happening on the list, then

the same process might work for them. Self Inquiry is the panacea.

>

> Thanks again Richard and others for abiding in Ramana's love.

> Aloha,

> Alton

>

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Dear Alton,

it is known where Vicki lives and in what difficult circumstances. I

often think of that and hope each day, that this day will end in

safety for her and her children. I think we all do and I admire very

deeply how she deals with all this. I think I would not do it so

well.

But there are also others under a big pressure. I can asure you this

here is the pure hell for me and I was about becoming seriously ill

since this is going on (besides since months and also on another

list). So please see also the other side. This is only fair. And when

we have seen and have been fair to both sides we can say ok, it's

over, we had a clash, but now it's over. Each one is loved as he/she

is, respected and we may help each other on our path and in our

weakness. Is this group not for this? This would be true love in my

eyes about we speak here so much.

I like to hear Richard and others reminding me: don't cling to this.

Go back to your real task, come back to self enquiry, the ego is not

worthy to give so much attention. Sit down and meditate and look for

scheduled times to do so. That's my lesson and I am willing to learn.

That's all what I can do besides offering my serious wish Vicki will

find back to her sadhana in posting Ramana quotes and enjoy being

here together with good friends, but that's not in my hand.

Gabriele

 

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> Just image if you lived where Viorica lives. You find out that the

bus you ride on got blown up. Every time you are separated from your

children you are concerned for their safety. I wont go on and on,

with this subject, except to say that under those conditions any

slights, apparent or imagined gets blown up in the order of magnitude.

>

> If someone feels irritated by what was happening on the list, then

the same process might work for them. Self Inquiry is the panacea.

>

> Thanks again Richard and others for abiding in Ramana's love.

> Aloha,

> Alton

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