Paul

[Guest guest]

Dear Paul:

Generally what you presented has validity, but obviously Viorica was

loosinig it and needed some extra love and nurturing. That is how I

saw it, but respect other views. She has told me that because of the

way I helped her and responded that she has regained her center.

When the container is full and spilling out dont try to add more to

it because is wont work.

 

When you have a child in the family, who becomes disturbed, you treat

it differently then one who is just misbehaving. We have learned to

act accordingly with our grandson who is on antidepressants. Do we

really want to push him over the edge. The answer is just give love

and so far it is working.

 

I do not condemn anyone for what they do, even suicide bombers or

pediphiles because that is the role they were given. Therefore not

for the grace of God go I. That does not mean that I would not stop

destructive behavior. It just means I try to take a universal view

and act accordingly

 

Love,

Alton

 

RamanaMaharshi, liquidunknown@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/7/2002 4:01:27 AM Central Daylight Time,

g.ebert@g...

> writes:

>

>

> > Yes, I tried to do to my best ability, Alton, but it was too less

and

> > it did not work. She did go away despite of my honestly

apologize. We

> > will not have this beautiful Ramana postings anymore and I feel

the

> > guilt and shame to be the reason for this and having deprived her

> > from her list friends and did not give enough love. It's a drama -

 

> > the drama of the shattered i.

> >

>

> *I am afraid I don't understand what is going on here...

> I have some questions and want to say upfront that I am asking

these

> sincerely and not sarcastically.... No matter how it seems to read.

>

> Is anyone forcing V away?

> Is spirituality only represented by the warm and fuzzy?

> Does everyone need to tiptoe around afraid to say anything because

someone

> might take it wrong? I haven't seen a post on the list that would

suggest

> anything but a warm hospitable environment. How delicate does it

have to be

> and at what point is it simply reinforcing someone's ego to

constantly stroke

> it?

>

> I personally feel that there should be a certain robustness of

character to

> balance out the sensitivities that arise when one takes the

spiritual path.

> A kind of thicker skin that allows the person who is rubbing you

the wrong

> way a chance to make themselves understood before reacting...

Sometimes it is

> simply a problem of understanding the other persons mannerisms and

use of

> language and what annoys is not any kind of real threat, but simply

> discordant with your own mannerisms.

>

> I am curious what Advaita Vedanta's stance is on this. (In the

sense of how

> are they addressed in the ashrams or communities?)

> Perhaps this post will rub some the wrong way... It's not my

intent.

> I've studied several different paths for 25+ years now and have

seen this

> particular problem rear its head everywhere.

>

> Paul

>

>

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