An Interview with David Godman - [12] from Millionpaths

[Guest guest]

Godman wrote: Snipped..

"I don't think that there are many people in the world in whom the "I" has

died."

 

"Papaji used to say, "What comes and goes is not real. If you have had an

experience that came and went, it was not an experience of the Self because the

Self never comes and goes."

 

Alton is on stage here:

Even though there are an awful lot of souls on the net that claim "Realization",

I agree with the above statements.

So, not only do I think "realization is not feasible for me this lifetime, but I

am not even working for it.

Then you ask why do I read Nisargadatta and Ramana and do meditation practice?

 

Answer: Because the process works and not the goal seeking.

I feel more and more love and interconnectedness with all beings.

I have more concentration ability and it keeps improving.

It feels peaceful to meditate even though I still have too many thoughts per

second.

I am more detached from heavy duty thoughts that appear out of no-where.

I can hold my center and not react as much as in previous years.

Being able to sit for long periods of time gives one patience.

By understanding my mind I have more tolerance for offensive people, because my

own mind is an offense to me.

With increased meditation time I have a nice feeling of alive power in my mind.

For the same reason I do Iyengar yoga.. It feel good. and works for me,

 

The above is just a reflection on my psyche at this time and if anyone says to

ask, "who is it that", I will, but it wont work, so I will then ask "who is it

that says it wont work".

 

Aloha,

Alton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Alton:

 

Playing devil's advocate here, all of your answers about practices refer to

"I" and most of them begin with the same word. Who is the "I" you are

referring to that benefits from all these practices?

 

Mark

 

 

Godman wrote: Snipped..

"I don't think that there are many people in the world in whom the "I" has

died."

 

"Papaji used to say, "What comes and goes is not real. If you have had an

experience that came and went, it was not an experience of the Self because

the

Self never comes and goes."

 

Alton is on stage here:

Even though there are an awful lot of souls on the net that claim

"Realization", I agree with the above statements.

So, not only do I think "realization is not feasible for me this lifetime,

but I am not even working for it.

Then you ask why do I read Nisargadatta and Ramana and do meditation

practice?

 

Answer: Because the process works and not the goal seeking.

I feel more and more love and interconnectedness with all beings.

I have more concentration ability and it keeps improving.

It feels peaceful to meditate even though I still have too many thoughts per

second.

I am more detached from heavy duty thoughts that appear out of no-where.

I can hold my center and not react as much as in previous years.

Being able to sit for long periods of time gives one patience.

By understanding my mind I have more tolerance for offensive people, because

my own mind is an offense to me.

With increased meditation time I have a nice feeling of alive power in my

mind.

For the same reason I do Iyengar yoga.. It feel good. and works for me,

 

The above is just a reflection on my psyche at this time and if anyone says

to ask, "who is it that", I will, but it wont work, so I will then ask "who

is it that says it wont work".

 

Aloha,

Alton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Milarepa Mark wrote:

"Who is the "I" you are

> referring to that benefits from all these practices?"

 

Possibly it is a corrupted cosmic false identity that all but a

handful are stuck with, until for some unknown reason "ripeness"

occurs; this "I" that I am referring to must experience pain and

pleasure. This "I" is learning from "teachings" to act in more

skillful manners and therefore can enjoy the temporal plains?

 

How about you anwering your own question?

I realize that those "true believers" might get upset by what I

posted. So then they get to have their attachments uncovered.

TIA.

Love,

Alton

 

 

 

RamanaMaharshi, "Milarepa" <milarepa@i...> wrote:

> Alton:

>

> Playing devil's advocate here, all of your answers about practices

refer to

> "I" and most of them begin with the same word. Who is the "I" you

are

> referring to that benefits from all these practices?

>

> Mark

>

>

> Godman wrote: Snipped..

> "I don't think that there are many people in the world in whom

the "I" has

> died."

>

> "Papaji used to say, "What comes and goes is not real. If you have

had an

> experience that came and went, it was not an experience of the Self

because

> the

> Self never comes and goes."

>

> Alton is on stage here:

> Even though there are an awful lot of souls on the net that claim

> "Realization", I agree with the above statements.

> So, not only do I think "realization is not feasible for me this

lifetime,

> but I am not even working for it.

> Then you ask why do I read Nisargadatta and Ramana and do meditation

> practice?

>

> Answer: Because the process works and not the goal seeking.

> I feel more and more love and interconnectedness with all beings.

> I have more concentration ability and it keeps improving.

> It feels peaceful to meditate even though I still have too many

thoughts per

> second.

> I am more detached from heavy duty thoughts that appear out of no-

where.

> I can hold my center and not react as much as in previous years.

> Being able to sit for long periods of time gives one patience.

> By understanding my mind I have more tolerance for offensive

people, because

> my own mind is an offense to me.

> With increased meditation time I have a nice feeling of alive power

in my

> mind.

> For the same reason I do Iyengar yoga.. It feel good. and works for

me,

>

> The above is just a reflection on my psyche at this time and if

anyone says

> to ask, "who is it that", I will, but it wont work, so I will then

ask "who

> is it that says it wont work".

>

> Aloha,

> Alton

>

>

>

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Hmmmm. Seem to have touched a raw nerve. ;-)

 

Mark

 

 

Dear Milarepa Mark wrote:

"Who is the "I" you are

> referring to that benefits from all these practices?"

 

Possibly it is a corrupted cosmic false identity that all but a

handful are stuck with, until for some unknown reason "ripeness"

occurs; this "I" that I am referring to must experience pain and

pleasure. This "I" is learning from "teachings" to act in more

skillful manners and therefore can enjoy the temporal plains?

 

How about you anwering your own question?

I realize that those "true believers" might get upset by what I

posted. So then they get to have their attachments uncovered.

TIA.

Love,

Alton

 

 

 

RamanaMaharshi, "Milarepa" <milarepa@i...> wrote:

> Alton:

>

> Playing devil's advocate here, all of your answers about practices

refer to

> "I" and most of them begin with the same word. Who is the "I" you

are

> referring to that benefits from all these practices?

>

> Mark

>

>

> Godman wrote: Snipped..

> "I don't think that there are many people in the world in whom

the "I" has

> died."

>

> "Papaji used to say, "What comes and goes is not real. If you have

had an

> experience that came and went, it was not an experience of the Self

because

> the

> Self never comes and goes."

>

> Alton is on stage here:

> Even though there are an awful lot of souls on the net that claim

> "Realization", I agree with the above statements.

> So, not only do I think "realization is not feasible for me this

lifetime,

> but I am not even working for it.

> Then you ask why do I read Nisargadatta and Ramana and do meditation

> practice?

>

> Answer: Because the process works and not the goal seeking.

> I feel more and more love and interconnectedness with all beings.

> I have more concentration ability and it keeps improving.

> It feels peaceful to meditate even though I still have too many

thoughts per

> second.

> I am more detached from heavy duty thoughts that appear out of no-

where.

> I can hold my center and not react as much as in previous years.

> Being able to sit for long periods of time gives one patience.

> By understanding my mind I have more tolerance for offensive

people, because

> my own mind is an offense to me.

> With increased meditation time I have a nice feeling of alive power

in my

> mind.

> For the same reason I do Iyengar yoga.. It feel good. and works for

me,

>

> The above is just a reflection on my psyche at this time and if

anyone says

> to ask, "who is it that", I will, but it wont work, so I will then

ask "who

> is it that says it wont work".

>

> Aloha,

> Alton

>

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RamanaMaharshi, "Milarepa" <milarepa@i...> wrote:

> Hmmmm. Seem to have touched a raw nerve. ;-)

>

> Mark

>

>

> Dear Milarepa Mark wrote:

> "Who is the "I" you are

> > referring to that benefits from all these practices?"

>

> Possibly it is a corrupted cosmic false identity that all but a

> handful are stuck with, until for some unknown reason "ripeness"

> occurs; this "I" that I am referring to must experience pain and

> pleasure. This "I" is learning from "teachings" to act in more

> skillful manners and therefore can enjoy the temporal plains?

>

> How about you anwering your own question?

> I realize that those "true believers" might get upset by what I

> posted. So then they get to have their attachments uncovered.

> TIA.

> Love,

> Alton

>

>

>

> RamanaMaharshi, "Milarepa" <milarepa@i...> wrote:

> > Alton:

> >

> > Playing devil's advocate here, all of your answers about

practices

> refer to

> > "I" and most of them begin with the same word. Who is the "I"

you

> are

> > referring to that benefits from all these practices?

> >

> > Mark

> >

> >

> > Godman wrote: Snipped..

> > "I don't think that there are many people in the world in whom

> the "I" has

> > died."

> >

> > "Papaji used to say, "What comes and goes is not real. If you

have

> had an

> > experience that came and went, it was not an experience of the

Self

> because

> > the

> > Self never comes and goes."

> >

> > Alton is on stage here:

> > Even though there are an awful lot of souls on the net that

claim

> > "Realization", I agree with the above statements.

> > So, not only do I think "realization is not feasible for me

this

> lifetime,

> > but I am not even working for it.

> > Then you ask why do I read Nisargadatta and Ramana and do

meditation

> > practice?

> >

> > Answer: Because the process works and not the goal seeking.

> > I feel more and more love and interconnectedness with all

beings.

> > I have more concentration ability and it keeps improving.

> > It feels peaceful to meditate even though I still have too many

> thoughts per

> > second.

> > I am more detached from heavy duty thoughts that appear out of

no-

> where.

> > I can hold my center and not react as much as in previous years.

> > Being able to sit for long periods of time gives one patience.

> > By understanding my mind I have more tolerance for offensive

> people, because

> > my own mind is an offense to me.

> > With increased meditation time I have a nice feeling of alive

power

> in my

> > mind.

> > For the same reason I do Iyengar yoga.. It feel good. and works

for

> me,

> >

> > The above is just a reflection on my psyche at this time and if

> anyone says

> > to ask, "who is it that", I will, but it wont work, so I will

then

> ask "who

> > is it that says it wont work".

> >

> > Aloha,

> > Alton

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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