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Ramana... Are the Gods Real?

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Devotee: Are the Gods, Ishvara and Vishu, and their heavens, Kailas and

Vaikuntha, real?

Bhagavan: As real as you are in this body.

D: I mean have they got a phenomenal existence like my body, or are they pure

fictions like the horns of a hare?

B: They do exist.

D: If so they must be somewhere, where are they?

B: In you.

D: Then they are only my idea; something which I create and control?

B: Everything is.

D: But I can create a pure fiction, like the horns of a hare, or a partial

truth, like a mirage; while there are also fact which exist irrespective of my

imagination. Do the gods, Ishvara and Vishnu, exist like that?

B: Yes.

D: Is God subject to cosmic dissolution at the end of a cycle?

B: Why should He be: A man who realizes the Self transcends cosmic dissolution

and is liberated; why should not Ishvara (God) who is infinitely wiser and abler

than a man?

D; Do gods and devils also exist?

B: Yes.

D: How are we to conceive of Supreme Divine Consciousness.

B: As that which is.

 

 

 

 

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