U.G's Tranformation Continued

[Guest guest]

Q: Can we understand what happened?

 

UG: You can read a description of the events of my life, that's all. One day,

around my forty- ninth birthday something stopped; another day another sense

changed; the third day something else changed.... There is a record of the way

the things happened tome. What value has that to you? It has no value at all. On

the other hand it's very dangerous because you try to simulate the outward

manifestations. People simulate these things and believe that something is

happening -- that's what these people do. I behaved normally. I didn't know what

was happening. It was a strange situation. there is no point in leaving any

record -- people will only simulate these things. The state is something

natural.

 

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(Up and down his torso, neck and head, at those points which Indian holy men

call chakras, his friends observed swellings of various shapes and colors, which

came and went at intervals. On his lower abdomen the swellings were horizontal,

cigar-shaped bands. Above the navel was a hard, almond-shaped swelling. A hard,

blue swelling, like a large medallion, in the middle of his chest was surmounted

by another smaller, brownish-red, medallion-shaped swelling at the base of his

throat. These two 'medallions' were as though suspended from a varicolored,

swollen ring -- blue, brownish and light yellow -- around his neck, as in

pictures of the Hindu gods. There were also other similarities between the

swellings and the depictions of Indian religious art: his throat was swollen to

a shape that made his chin seem to rest on the head of a cobra, as in the

traditional images of Siva; just above the bridge of the nose was a white

lotus-shaped swelling; all over the head the small blood vessels expanded,

forming patterns like the stylized lumps on the heads of Buddha statues. Like

the horns of Moses and the Taoist mystics, two large, hard swellings

periodically came and went. The arteries in his neck expanded and rose, blue and

snake-like, into his head.)

 

I do not want to be an exhibitionist, but you are doctors. There is something to

the symbolism they have in India -- the cobra. Do you see the swellings here? --

they take the shape of a cobra. Yesterday was the new moon. The body is affected

by everything that is happening around you; it is not separate from what is

happening around you. Whatever is happening there, is also happening here --

there is only the physical response. This is affection. Your body is affected by

everything that is happening around you; and you can't prevent this, for the

simple reason that the armor that you have built around yourself is destroyed,

so it is very vulnerable to everything that is happening there. With the phases

of the moon -- full moon, half moon, quarter moon -- these swellings here take

the shape of a cobra. Maybe that is the reason why some people have created all

these images -- Siva and all those kinds of things. But why should it take the

shape of a cobra? I have asked many doctors why this swelling is here, but

nobody could give me a satisfactory answer. I don't know if there are any glands

or anything here.

 

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There are certain glands ... This I have discussed so many times with doctors

who are doing research into the ductless glands. Those glands are what the

Hindus call "chakras." These ductless glands are located in exactly the same

spots where the Hindus speculated the chakras are. There is one gland here which

is called the 'thymus gland'. That is very active when you are a child -- very

active -- they have feelings, extraordinary feelings. When you reach the age of

puberty it becomes dormant -- that's what they say. When again this kind of a

thing happens, when you are reborn again, that gland is automatically activated,

so all the feelings are there. Feelings are not thoughts, not emotions; you feel

for somebody. If somebody hurts himself there, that hurt is felt here --not as a

pain, but there is a feeling, you see -- you automatically say "Ah!"

 

This actually happened to me when I was staying in a coffee plantation: a mother

started beating a child, a little child, you know. She was mad, hopping mad, and

she hit the child so hard, the child almost turned blue. And somebody asked me

"Why did you not interfere and stop her?" I was standing there -- I was so

puzzled, you see. "Who should I take pity on, the mother or the child?" -- that

was my answer -- "Who is responsible?" Both were in a ridiculous situation: the

mother could not control her anger, and the child was so helpless and innocent.

This went on -- it was moving from one to the other -- and then I found all

those things (marks) on my back. So I was also part of that. (I am not saying

this just to claim something.) That is possible because consciousness cannot be

divided. Anything that is happening there is affecting you -- this is affection,

you understand? There is no question of your sitting in judgment on anybody; the

situation happens to be that, so you are affected by that. You are affected by

everything that is happening there.

 

Q: In the entire universe?

 

UG: That is too big, you see. Anything that is happening within your field of

consciousness. Consciousness is, of course, not limited. If he is hurt there,

you also are hurt here. If you are hurt, there is an immediate response there. I

can't say about the universe, the whole universe, but in your field of

consciousness, in the limited field in which you are operating at that

particular moment, you are responding -- not that you are responding.

 

And all the other glands also here.... There are so many glands here; for

example, the pituitary -- 'third eye', 'ajña chakra', they call it. When once

the interference of thought is finished, it is taken over by this gland: it is

this gland that gives the instructions or orders to the body; not thought any

more; thought cannot interfere. (That is why they call it that*, probably. I'm

not interpreting or any such thing; perhaps this gives you an idea.) But you

have built an armor created an armor with this thought, and you don't allow

yourself to be affected by things.

 

To be continued

 

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