PRIOR TO CONSCIOUSNESS 12/29/80 NISARGADATTA.. part one

June 18, 2002

Maharaj: Sitting in meditation helps the consciousness to blossom. It causes

deeper understanding and spontaneous change in behavior. These changes are

brought about in the consciousness itself, not in the pseudo-personality.

Forced changes are at the level of the mind. Mental and intellectual changes

are totally unnatural and different from the ones that take place in the birth

principle. These take place naturally, automatically, by themselves, due to

meditation.

Most of the people see the tree of knowledge and admire it, but what is to

be understood is its source - the seed, the latent force from which it sprouts.

Many people talk about it but only intellectually; I talk about it from direct

knowledge.

A small speck of consciousness, which is like a seed , has all the worlds

contained in it. The physical frame is necessary for it to manifest itself.

All the ambitions, hopes and desires are connected with an identity, and so

long as there is an identity no truth can be apperceived.

Q: It there any destiny for the total manifestation or the phenomena as a

whole?

M: As there is no single identity, where will it go? The fuel is the destiny

of the flame; so also, the food essence body is the destiny of the

consciousness. Consciousness alone offers destiny and destiny offers suffering.

Because of the mistaken identity we think of personalized consciousness, but

actually it is vast and limitless.

The source of consciousness is prior to time and space. Manifestation

needs time and space, but the source of consciousness was there before

manifestation took place. The manifestation has five elements, three gunas

and, above all, consciousness, the "I Amness." Now how can anything be without

my conscious presence? Even the elements cannot exist without me - I do not do

anything, I do not create anything - they happen because of my conscious

presence. My presence is throughout and I say this with conviction.

Some may read these words, some may have heard these words, some may hear

the tape recording, some may want to hear, but will be thrown so far away from

the tapes, due to circumstance, that it won't be possible. There are million of

varieties of forms in the total manifestation, but the source of all is the

consciousness. What is this consciousness?: Does anyone think along these

lines?

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